ha yes a retroactive one-hit wonder
― goole, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
lol should this be the thread where i nitpick that review
― some dude, Tuesday, August 7, 2012 5:58 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark
sure!
or not, whatever. you can dig up a ross thread if you want or go to the goon thread.
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
This literally has me in tears right now at my desk:
incidentally, the main impact of this whole discussion for me is having "Bad Medicine" stuck in my head, also i am convinced that Bon Jovi's best hits are the ones where I can mis-hear some element of the chorus as being about Batman, as in "Your love is like Batman is in" and of course "Shot through the heart, and you're to blame / You can't run...from Bat-Man."― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, August 7, 2012 3:01 PM (48 minutes ago)
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, August 7, 2012 3:01 PM (48 minutes ago)
― alpine static, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
Snoop Doggy Dogg- The Doggfather
― late adopter, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
i think my gripe was just 'fan projects an arc onto artist that does the same thing the same way over and over with mildly varying results' so kinda the opposite of this thread ha (xpost)
― some dude, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
Storm Front belongs in this conversation but I gotta say I've heard "I Go To Extremes" more often in the last twenty years than "We Didn't Start The Fire." It's like no one cares about the latter after teachers exhausted our patience about its educational worth.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
many xposts
The other thing Van Hagar's "Right Now" is remembered for:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c_ZRzC2SZM
― Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
and Crystal Gravy!
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
re: "I Go To Extremes," you guys... may be right... wonder if this is regional or something, I really have probably heard "I Go To Extremes" a half-dozen times in my whole life, and a couple of those were me seeking it out to go "how does that song go again?"
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
Incredibly brilliant thread.
Kinks - Lola v Powerman and the Money-go-round
Also (tangential to this thread), recently the AV Club ran a piece about 'dead zones', i.e. artists having a period that was at the time regarded as shithouse but actually wasn't. So very otm.
― undermikey: bidness (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
(forgive bad english, sick)
speaking of, too bad Bad English doesn't apply
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
I loaded "I Go to Extremes" on Youtube. I've never heard this before in my life.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
#3 in Canada!
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link
Admittedly, it does seem like the sort of thing I might have heard in a store or dentist's office without paying attention.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 23:31 (eleven years ago) link
back to alterna-land:
Sonic Youth- Dirty. Came on the heels of critical fave Daydream Nation and major label debut Goo--got biggest push of their career, was their biggest seller, but I doubt people rate it as highly as their previous albums now, and the stuff that came immediately after definitely felt past-prime.
― Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 00:58 (eleven years ago) link
I bet Modern Rock has a lot of these. Chocolate Starfish? Creed probably has one.
― Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 00:59 (eleven years ago) link
The concept doesn't really work for bands that are more cultish in the first place. Besides, in my anecdotal experience, Dirty is a favourite among people my age who aren't SY devotees or indie nerds.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 01:02 (eleven years ago) link
that's crazy
― Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 01:06 (eleven years ago) link
'huge artist' releasing 'huge event album' is a pretty rare thing tbh, especially lately
sonic youth were not huge by any means
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 01:17 (eleven years ago) link
New Jerseys are my bread + butter.
Some more traits of NJs:
- It's a double album or follows a double album (Clash wouldn't count because of Combat Rock. Also, I was 10 when Mellon Collie came out and I know for sure that's not a NJ. I still hear all of the singles more than one should for a NJ)
- One or more of the follow-up singles has some sort of gimmick/promotional angle to it (like the music video is tied-in to a contest/MTV movie or something)
Britney's Oops! sold less and the hits weren't as big, but I don't think it counts. It came out early 2000 (right when Teen Pop as a whole cultural thing hit critical mass with No Strings Attached) -- The genre's wave was so huge that it feels like part of the Baby era.
The first teen pop certified NJ that comes to mind is Backstreet Boys - Black & Blue. That was destined for NJ status as soon as one of BSB said it would break NSYNC's sales record.
Green Day at this point might have two NJs - Insomniac (debatable because some ppl saw it as a rush job when it came out) and 21CBD
― I Occasionally Post on ILX (2x5), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link
yeah Backstreet and Green Day picks otm
― some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
Blink 182's Take Off Your Pants & Jacket
Modest Mouse's "Good News For People Who Love Bad News" really feels like this for me in the non-stadium filling band category.
― joygoat, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
that was their big platinum breakthrough, though! the one after that would make way more sense. i heard "Dashboard" on the radio TWICE last week, which was really odd considering how quickly it disappeared after it was initially a hit.
― some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 01:32 (eleven years ago) link
Diamonds and PearlsTrue ColorsThe Fat of the LandSupposed Former Infatuation Junkie
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 01:38 (eleven years ago) link
I somehow believe that Echo & The Bunnymen's self-titled belongs here, but despite the wall-to-wall airplay of "Lips Like Sugar" on KROQ out here I'm not sure the sales really qualify it for NJ status.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
The Fat of the Land is a good inclusion, though in that case the momentum it coasted on was from its own (by that point quite old) early singles.
To me The Chemical Bros' Surrender feels a bit like a New Jersey album but it's still very highly rated by lots of people, so maybe not.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 01:45 (eleven years ago) link
I want to say The Cranberries' To The Faithful Departed, but (for example) even though it went 2x platinum in the US that was down from a 7x platinum performance for their second album, so it looks like most people realised straightaway that the shine had come off.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 01:48 (eleven years ago) link
50 Cent - The Massacre
Anybody heard any singles from this record lately? Interscope pushed (and shoved) it through one of the earliest examples of the preplanned rerelease to 5x Platinum, and it spawned four top 10 singles, but far as I can remember no one ever loved it even when it was new.
― mobs of burly teen christgaus (thewufs), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 01:51 (eleven years ago) link
The Massacre is otm
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 02:37 (eleven years ago) link
The Caution HorsesBang!Go Bang!Internationalists
― Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 03:11 (eleven years ago) link
vespertine
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 03:22 (eleven years ago) link
this is getting more and more common with rap/R&B albums that come out 1-3 years after the biggest advance single
― some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 03:22 (eleven years ago) link
As far as Sonic Youth is concerned, this phenomenon seems to fit what I was thinking about Washing Machine the other day (I'd also begrudgingly accept that Experimental Jet Set fits). In spirit if not in actuality.
― Old Lunch, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 03:30 (eleven years ago) link
Some other nominees:
Richard Marx - Rush Street (his precipitous plummet from the charts has always baffled me somewhat)The Monkees - Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn & Jones Ltd. (I think? There might be an argument for Headquarters, though.)Vanessa Williams - The Comfort Zone (...maaaaaybe?)
― Old Lunch, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 03:44 (eleven years ago) link
'huge artist' releasing 'huge event album'
y'all are turning this into whichever album of some artist's that sold less than the one before it
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 03:55 (eleven years ago) link
indoor living was totally superchunk's new jersey amirite
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 03:56 (eleven years ago) link
Black and Blue strikes me as a pretty good pick:
Black & Blue debuted at number-one on the Billboard 200 after selling 1.6 million copies in its first week at retail in the US. The feat made the them the first act in history to achieve sales more than 1 million copies in the first week with back-to-back releases. The set has moved more than 5.4 million copies in the U.S. to date, according to Nielsen SoundScan.[17][18] Internationally, the album recorded the best sales in a week for an album in history by selling over 5 million copies in its first week of sales.[4][5] As of 2007, the album has sold 24 million copies worldwide.[6]
And it's like, wow! And then you look at the singles and just - "The Call"? "More Than That"? "Shape of My Heart"? Couldn't hum 'em with a gun to my head. (None of those charted spectacularly even at the time, but damn, those album sales.)
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 04:03 (eleven years ago) link
Electric Light Orchestra - Discovery
There's a couple of great songs plus a lot of soppy wet ballads and their most embarrassing track, "The Diary of Horace Wimp." It really felt like Jeff Lynne needed a vacation at that point (which turned out to be Xanadu). Maybe none of the followup albums (Time, Secret Messages, Balance of Power had anything to top "Don't Bring Me Down," but I think they all hold together better than Discovery.
Skimming 180+ posts, has anyone said Autoamerican?― David Allan Cow (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:45 (Yesterday)
― David Allan Cow (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:45 (Yesterday)
Came here to post that. It's the perfect example of an album that I loved at the time, but in hindsight it's really weak.
― Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 04:07 (eleven years ago) link
spost "Shape of my Heart" and "The Call" are actually two of my favourite BSB singles though ("Shape of my Heart" is my absolute fave in fact).
― Tim F, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 04:07 (eleven years ago) link
The Call is probably the BSBs like, 3rd best song. But yeah that album counts
― frogbs, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 04:20 (eleven years ago) link
Tears for Fears, Seeds of Love
― Leon Septamost, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 05:11 (eleven years ago) link
The Massacre is composed entirely of good album tracks and terrible singles.
― REV LION (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 06:32 (eleven years ago) link
Bone Thugs N Harmony's The Art Of War went 4x platinum but I haven't heard "Look Into My Eyes" or "If I Could Teach The World" since 97.
― REV LION (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 06:37 (eleven years ago) link
haha at this video, I sometimes forget how ambitious every rap video in the late 90s was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-DgZrIkw_Q
― REV LION (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 06:51 (eleven years ago) link
This song makes "The Crossroads" sound as hard as "Thuggish Ruggish Bone".
― REV LION (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 06:53 (eleven years ago) link
Not sure if it's been mentioned and it's an awful example but "Life" by Simply Red might fit the criteria. Followup to "Stars", a huge album with loads of singles on it, but "Life" had "Fairground" and er... Can't remember any others. But everyone (in the uk anyway) bought it. It's a charity shop regular now.
― Rob M Revisited, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 07:18 (eleven years ago) link
Suede-Head Music. Remember Virgin changed the name of their store to Head music the day it came out, there are now a million copies for sale on Amazon. I think their career was over when She's In Fashion didn't become the huge hit they were expecting.
The Corrs-In Blue. They were the biggest band in the UK in 98/99 and the first single from this album went straight to number one in 2000 but after that people just suddenly lost interest and they never recovered.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 08:12 (eleven years ago) link
talking heads - little creatures
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 08:31 (eleven years ago) link