Every huge artist has their "New Jersey" - a huge event album that ultimately feels a bit hollow & signals a career decline

yeah i retract alladin sane, good points

MANIC PIXIE DREAM ALBUM THE THREAD

― MUBU gai pan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, August 7, 2012 3:37 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

huh?

The 257th in the Pearl Jam bootleg series totally qualifies here

haha

waht is springsteens new jersey

The River

Human Touch/Lucky Town was mentioned upthread and definitely fits

not sure Springsteen fits in this category. Human Touch-Lucky Town flopped and didn't produce any big singles either. He spent the rest of the nineties after "Streets of Philadelphia" going purposefully low key.

Nobody ever rated or bought those two records.

xpost

As Alfred said he doesn't really fit, though you rarely hear the singles from Tunnel Of Love anymore. But people still rate it highly.

I suppose we can debate how much his going low key dependend on a shrewd study of sales trends and market forces.

hey um can someone explain what whiney meant w/that post? even google doesn't come up with "manic pixie dream album"...there is some band called 1976 that had an album call manic pixie dream girl, then some articles about zooey deschnel?

xpost

i think tunnel of love is too much of a purposeful stylistic shift to be a new jersey

Tom Petty-Wildflowers

Several hits, but only one with true staying power. And She's The One was the follow-up.

hey um can someone explain what whiney meant w/that post?

I don't think anyone actually cares enough to decipher, tbh

Wildflowers sounds like a perfect fit but it IS widely loved (even by Petty himself).

Beastie Boys' To The 5 Boroughs?

xpost: i just assumed he's making fun of people who like the pixies. so yay for him.

"manic pixie dream girl" is a movie character archetype, coined by whiney's wu tang/simpsons stan bizarro world av club equivalent nathan rabin, which people forever argue over the definition and appropriate examples of.

I don't think there was any expectation that "Boroughs" would be huge by the time that came out.

lol xp

the only beasties that would even be close is Ill Communication, but i don't really think so

"manic pixie dream girl" is a movie character archetype, coined by whiney's wu tang/simpsons stan bizarro world av club equivalent nathan rabin, which people forever argue over the definition and appropriate examples of.

― some dude, Tuesday, August 7, 2012 4:00 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ok so he doesn't like this thread or something?

apparently

hey whiney sorry you don't like this thread also have you considered the possibility that you've disappeared up your own butt?

manic pixie dream ilx

manic pixie dream journalism career

Is manic pixie dream really circling the drain?

Getting butthurt about a thread like this on a place like ILM is kind of a "New Jersey" if you think about it

or maybe a "Neither Fish Nor Flesh"

okay I was going to complain about everyone turning this into a thread about Whiney but ^^^ lol

http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/203755-1/Water-car-jerk-superhero.gif

Has anyone mentioned 'Be Here Now' yet?

aaanyway

Helmet's New Jersey is Betty, happy now?

Has anyone mentioned 'Be Here Now' yet?

yep

Shania Twain - Up!
George Michael - Listen Without Prejudice Vol. 1
Norah Jones - Feels Like Home

Be Here Now was instant letdown though, I'm minded to disqualify it (though in truth I've never listened to it, boy will my face be red if it turns out it was brilliant)

George Michael - Listen Without Prejudice Vol.

yes!

Listen Without Prejudice isn't a New Jersey surely

weren't the reviews of BHN kinda like "whoaaaa! wow!"?

praying for time is exactly what Sony did when Michael insisted on releasing this single first.

Eric Clapton's Pilgrim?

"Fastlove" and "Jesus to a Child" were US top 10 hits??????????

It sold even less than LWP though (a massive Euro hit though). And why not? Look at his scary goatee on the cover.

And George hasn't charted since

actually, looking at the sales stats and considering that ppl still adore "Freedom 90" but no one remembers or ever hears any of its, I'm tempted to say Older makes more sense

wondering why all the best examples of this are late 80s/early 90s. hmm

its HITS, I meant

Robbie Williams - Escapology

Eric Clapton's Pilgrim?

― Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, August 7, 2012 4:21 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was going to say "no" but then I read this little jem on Wiki, Wild's review pushes it into the "New Jersey" realm

Reviews for Pilgrim were mixed upon release. Allmusic described the album as "bland", while Rolling Stone's David Wild gave it four out of five stars, stating, "Pilgrim is the work of someone who has learned in the hardest way imaginable that although he cannot change the world, he might be able to change himself."

do each of the solo Beatles have a New Jersey? wanna say yeah, Mind Dreams & Living in the Material World for John & George; not sure about the other two

Steve Winwood - Roll With It (1988)

2x platinum, title single at #1 for four weeks. Barely cracked the top 30 with his next album, and that was pretty much it. Seems like the singles from the three preceding albums are played more now.