Every huge artist has their "New Jersey" - a huge event album that ultimately feels a bit hollow & signals a career decline

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A friend with whom I'm IM'ing said "Tunnel of Love" but that's not quite right

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

PE's Greatest Misses felt this way to me at the time, but I don't know what its sales were like.

Euler, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

Songs of Faith & Devotion is a good one. Not Rattle & Hum though - nobody would ever be under the impression that Joshua Tree had been supplanted. (that's the point, right? It looks for a while like the blockbuster's been beaten, then it ... just hasn't)

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

I thought of "Tunnel of Love" but yeah it's not quite right, a "New Jersey" isn't a flop exactly, more like no one realizes it is a flop until they've owned it for six months

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

Cheap Trick- Dream Police

You got killer single and George Martin- should have been their victory lap and it was popular but they had kinda lost something and the slide to the state fair starts.

earlnash, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

oh I think R&H is a perfect example!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

I gotta say, this is basically the perfect ILM thread

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

Tribe Called Quest - Beats, Rhymes, and Life

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

Like say Cyndi Lauper's True Colors featuring the #3 hit "Change Of Heart"

wtf are you talking about, that is not a surprise at all

surprising is seeing that "I Drove All Night" hit #6

keeping things contextual (DJP), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

Tribe Called Quest - Beats, Rhymes, and Life

omg this is super OTM

keeping things contextual (DJP), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

Blur - The Great Escape

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

True Colors also, erm, had a #1 single that unfortunately hasn't disappeared

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

We have different working definitions of "huge event album."

Eric H., Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

sorry I was not under the impression people still liked True Colors

da croupier, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

cyndi's third album didn't even go gold so if True Colors is just too damn good an album to be a New Jersey she doesn't have one

da croupier, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

Tusk was one of these, and then it got released

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

R.E.M. - Monster

Insanity itself -- it's obviously AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE, which seemed huge at the time, but let's face it, in retrospect, R.E.M. as a hitmaker is "the band who recorded Losing My Religion" not "the band who recorded Drive." It sold a lot of copies at the time, though.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

people still rave about Automatic. I love Monster but the "#1 sold-back cd ever" thing is hard to ignore. Wish would qualify if Cure fans had abandoned it but I don't think that's the case.

da croupier, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

eephus otm, and I'd never realised before

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

hit-wise you could talk about "the band who recorded Everybody Hurts"

da croupier, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

Wish would qualify if Cure fans had abandoned it but I don't think that's the case.

This is the main reason why I said Wild Mood Swings

keeping things contextual (DJP), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

actually yeah croup is right about True Colors, insofar as it's a piece of shit that coasted on momentum, and you never hear "What's Going On" and "Change of Heart" anymore.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

you do in my house, buddy

keeping things contextual (DJP), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

I want video of you and the misses slow dancing to "What's Going On"

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

The Verve - Urban Hymns

britpop rules this thread

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

It's obviously not Automatic but Monster seems wrong because people immediately hated that album.

Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

Be Hear Now?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

Be Here Now lol

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

in American Urban Hymns was their only hit album and it looks like Richard Astbury's solo career did quite alright over in the UK so idgi - also don't critics still worship that album?

da croupier, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

Let It Come Down by Spiritualized might fit.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

lol Richard Ashcroft, sorry, freudian slip

da croupier, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

Then again, on the metric of "last.fm" plays, people are still listening to "Everybody Hurts," "Man in the Moon," and "Nightswimming" in large numbers -- who knew?

Actually, I think REM just fails to meet this pattern: looks like AFTP sold about as many copies as Out of Time but none of the singles charted higher than 28; "Everybody Hurts" topped at 29, and "Nightswimming," 5th most listened to REM song per last.fm, didn't even crack top 100.

None of these charted as high as "Losing My Religion" or "Shiny Happy People" or, for that matter, "What's the Frequency, Kenneth?" or "Bang and Blame."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

"What's Going On" isn't a slow dance song!

keeping things contextual (DJP), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

with REM isn't it New Adventures? it was obvious the gig was up but it still sold bucketloads; oh but I guess people on ILM defend this hunk of junk, blah

Euler, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

"What's Going On" isn't a slow dance song!

shows you how long it's been since I heard it. I remember those goopy synths at the beginning

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

with REM isn't it New Adventures? it was obvious the gig was up but it still sold bucketloads

No, because Monster sold as many copies and scored two more singles that charted higher

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

whoops – thought this said Automatic. Time for lunch!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

yeah & they coasted into New Adventures' sales

xp right!

Euler, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

Out Of Time, Automatic and Monster all sold 4 million copies stateside. New Adventures sold 1 million. Monster is famously the most sold back CD, now gets two-star reviews in publications when it came out to four stars - I hate to admit it but I don't know how it's not "THE ONE EVERYONE BOUGHT"

da croupier, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

Mj's "bad"

^^^ first thing I thought of

wk, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

eephus's crazy REM theory is eating itself

Get wolves (DL), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

you still hear "Bang & Blame" on the radio though; but "Bittersweet Me" was the biggest single on New Adventures and uh

Euler, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

it's not like all the songs from New Jersey are banned from radio

da croupier, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

thread title just does not scan well with chorus of "Hungry Heart"

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

Billy Ocean - Love Zone

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

why Love Zone and not Tear Down These Walls

da croupier, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

the fact that stipe so strenuously insisted that monster was 'totally punk rock' weighs in favor of its nj-osity

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

Metallica - The Black Album

aspiring barkitect (silverfish), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

only cuz TDTW only managed one massive #1 and the album charted lower.

xxpost

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

Hmm how about In Through The Out Door? Pretty much un-listened to these days, apart from people on ilm obviously.

The album remained on the US top spot for seven weeks and sold three million copies by the end of September 1979.[9] It is also the Led Zeppelin album that has been most weeks on the top of the charts (tied along with Led Zeppelin II). To date, the album has sold six million copies in the US.

don't slip in mud (Matt #2), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link


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