the totally insane true story behind the 1970s film and book Sybil

"This is a very explicit documentary exposing the truly demonic and dangerous realities of satanism. Absolutely, not for children or even young teens."

Watching Sybil now. I got the book too but I'm not sure I have the patience to read 400 pages of bullshit just to know that it's bullshit.

Some cool strings.

I seriously have completely changed my tune on the Sybil movie -- it used to scare the crap out of me, but now that I know the backstory, as I said before, I am ready to defend it as an unheralded hag horror classic. It's the best kind of fiction -- sold as nonfiction, but is fiction, and eventually is appreciated as a completely made up horror story within a greater horror story that IS real. Complicated "nonfiction" fiction with a backstory! What more could a person ask for.

Sally Field is kind of great!

She is! And Joanne Woodward played Eve in The Three Faces of Eve, which is just extra super rich.
http://media-3.web.britannica.com/eb-media/52/77152-004-AB40389D.jpg

also omg dave roever
i'm sure he has seen some of the bizarre

OMG, Vicky!

The Dave Roever documentary is great. I really want to know what those people are up to now, the fake satanist and the crazy police lady in particular.

Holy shit, this thread has been 100% A+ so far.

The Dungeons & Dragons Panic started with this book:

http://static.dangerousminds.net/uploads/images/the-dugeon-master-by-william-dear_thumb.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dallas_Egbert_III has the details, it's a sad case - easier for everyone involved to believe that D&D caused him to break with reality than accept that he was probably gay.

This book is worth looking out for...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ERfaJkw5L._SL500_SS500_.jpg

background: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candy_Jones

Outstanding article on the current phenomena of TIs a.k.a. Target Individuals. Folks who believe that they are currently targets of government/new world order/etc. mind control operations: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/10/AR2007011001399.html

Finished watching. It's a good horror movie, although I wish I hadn't already seen clips on Youtube. Gets a little lame at the very end. If you actually believed that all of this was true and completely believable, I can imagine that it would seem pretty heady.

Ha, I dimly remember writing a short story about someone with multiple personalities in a high school 'writer's craft' class. Iirc the personalities talked to each other, like Sybil's do, which the teacher objected to.

Frank Kogan writes:
I'm pleased to say that, searching Google images for "left right molar," I found Paul McCartney (or should I say "Paul McCartneys"?) on both page 2 and page 7, each bringing me to his Webpage:



http://www.thebeatlesneverexisted.com/ctrn/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=242&start=48


Rooting about further, I discover http://www.thebeatlesneverexisted.com/ctrn/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=12

“The purpose of this site is to research and discuss the anomalies, mysteries, conspiracies and coverups surrounding The Beatles, individually and collectively, and we need your ‘Help!’ in doing so. Our intention is not to attack or defame them, or to turn anyone against them or their music. It is the opinion of the Admin that they were apparently and most likely being used (exploited and abused) for adverse social engineering, by perpetrators unknown to and unseen by the public.

”When I set out on this journey, it was ONLY to research the information concerning whether Paul McCartney had died or been killed. I never in my wildest dreams, ever figured it would take me where it has, but it did this all on its own. One question after another kept cropping up without an answer, and I kept setting out to find an answer for it. One thing led to another, until I had to come to the decision that the explanation for it all lies beyond our known realm of explanation and technology. I eventually came upon the explanations for cloning and human simulacra, especially at a spirituality site named Star Gods which has a page explaining Paul McCartney as a product of Human Simulacra; a technology which has existed longer than we've known about. It was first used on humans in 1927. The ruling elite are about a hundred years ahead of what they tell us or allow us to access, in what they are able to do.

“There is high strangeness surrounding these individuals, and you will learn more about it as you take our version of the ‘Magical Mystery Tour,’ and we delve into the lives of the Fabricated Four, or maybe it's forty-four, or even more.

There is something very highly unusual about the young men who comprised ‘The Beatles.’ There were a great many more of them than we've ever known about, and the fact that there are certain distinguishing characteristics that are shared, which cannot be 'copied over' through plastic surgery, etc., now needs an alternative explanation. With that in mind, as to the views that will be presented here about who The Beatles may have been and what their purpose was, may I request that you withhold judgment until you read everything we have to say. Then, why make a judgment at all? You 'know' what you 'know', and you 'don't know' what you 'don't know'. What you believe - whether PID, PIA or PWR - has little to do with Truth. Don't take our word for it, do your own research, too, and be convinced of what you know. Things are only impossible until they are not.”

Other than that she’s batshit, she seems like a nice person, as in these forum rules:

http://www.thebeatlesneverexisted.com/ctrn/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=214

E.g., “All I ask is that everyone please refrain from attacking or flaming other posters. Please do not use obscene or rude language, or have a hateful or know-it-all attitude towards others. We will not all agree on these things, and I think it was always intended to be such. Perhaps we're even being made to see different things when we look at the same pictures and videos, or hear the same songs and music. Something has to account for all the disagreement in all the factions and sects of this topic.”

Paul McCan'tBe is my favourite conspiracy theory, in which I mean it's one of the more bonkers ones.

If you haven't seen the Rotten Apple series on youtube, especially if you're reasonably familiar with beatles lore, i suggest you check them out. They're terrific fun, partly because it's hard to work out if they're serious or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlQHoelGzbM

I'm guessing not btw.

I got st0ned with my gf and watched the whole series for like 3 hours, and I'm sure by the end of it I BELIEVED!

i like to read this batshit beatles theory but i am afraid of seeing pictures of molars, anyone's, so i will take y'all's word for it

ok i started reading SATAN'S CHILDREN

and i learned about this illustrated children's book about satanic ritual abuse

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61tg5aklyzL._AA300_.jpg

and this joan baez song which is apparently about satan and mexican people?!?!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC4BaYgGJ8Y

happy labor day

They need to do a better job syncing "It sounds like John is saying 'I buried Paul'" with Neil Aspinall's mouth in that video.

The Awful Library Books on that one was great: http://awfullibrarybooks.net/?p=2190

from the comments (which are actually a fun read):

That is horrible & fabulous!!

I am shocked that so many PLs own this with a SLJ review like this to go along with it:
“This is a very specialized title that, although in picture-book format, belongs in the child-abuse section of the adult collection. Five-year-old Allison’s behavior indicates to her concerned parents that something is wrong at her day care center. In unseen action, they discover that the center practices sexual, physical , and psychological abuse in the guise of religious ritual. Through dialogue, Allison and her parents reveal their feelings and the beginnings of the healing process to counselors and legal personnel. Some details of abuse are familiar from the lengthy McMartin trial, such as the “movie star room” in which naked children are photographed. The appendix lists 10 guidelines for parents on how to handle their own feelings during this family crisis. All of the people at the day care center are white and look like evil, angry young witches. This is not a book for general readers. The child’s ordeal is so horrifying and the display of its aftermath so subtle that readers need familiarity with the subject to avoid misinterpretation. It could be a useful title for social workers, law enforcement officials, psychologists, counselors, religious personnel, and the unfortunate parents and children who have endured such trauma. –Anne Osborn, Youth Training School, Dept. of Youth Authority, Ontario, CA
Copyright 1990 Reed Business Information, Inc. “

omg that book is so creepy!! what the fuck

also that blog is great wow

Paul McCan'tBe is my favourite conspiracy theory, in which I mean it's one of the more bonkers ones.

this is a nice little artifact
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whAZ8aYztgU

Guys I'm about 2/3rds of the way through 'Sybil' right now. I was messing on the Internet seeing if I could get a street view of the Dorset/mason home or where it once stood. Of course Dodge Center, MN hasn't been street viewed yet, so I randomly clicked a realtor.com link for DC, MN and spotted the thumbnail for this house which I immediate thought might be Sybil's house. These things seem to back me up - one block north of main street, an alley behind the property, two stories with a basement, a sunroom, 1 3/4 bathrooms ( you might remember the main floor bathroom being built during Sybil's 2 year blackout), 3 bedrooms and I think kitty corner to where the school once was and built in 1920.

Probably not but maybe?????

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/207-1st-St-Ne_Dodge-Center_MN_55927_M88106-85200?source=web

or maybe....
200 3rd Avenue Northwest, Dodge Center, Minnesota, United States

Circling back to the long discussion of otherkin and related entitled-identity craziness we had upthread, max brings it--

http://gawker.com/5940947/from-otherkin-to-transethnicity-your-field-guide-to-the-weird-world-of-tumblr-identity-politics

and DO NOT MISS the links in the first comment...

I might have to save the 'Final Fantasy 7 House' for tomorrow, this shit is amazing

wow, just started reading FF7 house thing, whoa

still i gotta say -- it's small-scale compared to sybil, llc!!

i like to read this batshit beatles theory but i am afraid of seeing pictures of molars, anyone's, so i will take y'all's word for it

― these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Thursday, August 30, 2012 11:42 AM (1 week ago

i read many, many pages of that batshit beatles theory, and there was no mention of teeth that i noticed other than on the page dow linked above. his link doesn't work anymore anyway. here's the link to the forum's main page if you want to try again: http://fabfourdozen.proboards.com/?sid=c25c2d2d6d3e4b97863cb833dc7997b5.

thank you! loose beatle teeth: dnw

TAGS: BEATLES, PARASITIC TWIN, CYST, TEETH, HAIR, FETUS IN FETU

ugh sorry i just grossed myself out

i loled

xxxp there may have been some dental references in the "fake jimmy carter" section, so beware.

THIS BEATLES SITE IS AMAZING

ALSO I MAY BE A DEMI SEXUAL... PARTLY

i think everyone is?

Yeah, I think it is just the special snowflake aspect of it that makes them weird.

Ever wonder what cosmic thread connects Rasputin, Yoko Ono, Avril Lavigne, and (I think) Benjamin Orr?
The reptilian stare http://stargods.org/ReptilianStare.htm

also lol at the arrow

http://stargods.org/Stare/StareSpooky.jpg

Since I am making my way through Satan's Silence, I am relishing every (to use Debbie Nathan's word) PHANTASMAGORIC detail of the McMartin preschool saga and thought perhaps someone else might be hungry for the blood of the young.
So much ridiculousness! Poor Ray.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial

Poor everyone, really.

From the "legacy" section of the wiki

The trial lasted seven years and cost $15 million,[35] the longest and most expensive criminal case in the history of the United States legal system, and ultimately resulted in no convictions.[3][1][22] The McMartin preschool was closed and the building was dismantled and several of the accused have died. In 2005 one of the children (now an adult) retracted the allegations of abuse.[17][36]

Never did anyone do anything to me, and I never saw them doing anything. I said a lot of things that didn't happen. I lied. ... Anytime I would give them an answer that they didn't like, they would ask again and encourage me to give them the answer they were looking for. ... I felt uncomfortable and a little ashamed that I was being dishonest. But at the same time, being the type of person I was, whatever my parents wanted me to do, I would do.[17]

In The Devil in The Nursery, Margaret Talbot for The New York Times summarized the case:

When you once believed something that now strikes you as absurd, even unhinged, it can be almost impossible to summon that feeling of credulity again. Maybe that is why it is easier for most of us to forget, rather than to try and explain, the Satanic-abuse scare that gripped this country in the early 80's — the myth that Devil-worshipers had set up shop in our day-care centers, where their clever adepts were raping and sodomizing children, practicing ritual sacrifice, shedding their clothes, drinking blood and eating feces, all unnoticed by parents, neighbors and the authorities.[3]

Mary A. Fischer in an article in Los Angeles magazine said the case was "simply invented," and transmogrified into a national cause celebre by the misplaced zeal of six people: Judy Johnson, mentally ill mother who died of alcoholism; Jane Hoag, the detective who investigated the complaints; Kee MacFarlane, the social worker who interviewed the children; Robert Philibosian, the district attorney who was in a losing battle for re-election; Wayne Satz, the television reporter who first reported the case, and Lael Rubin, the prosecutor.[1]

The trial lasted seven years and cost $15 million,[35] the longest and most expensive criminal case in the history of the United States legal system
true? if so, wow.

this isn't really related but i want to read all three of these books in this order:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_Vision
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Journalist_and_the_Murderer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Wilderness_of_Error:_The_Trials_of_Jeffrey_MacDonald

I've read Fatal Vision but not the other two. And of course it was a TV movie starring Gary Cole, back when Serious Actor was Serious.