Def Leppard 'Hysteria': C/D?

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adrenalize is worse than terrible. AWFUL

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 August 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

adrenalize was probably the most disappointing album of my youth, it's like the ghostbusters 2 of pop metal.
--omar little

booming post

MUBU gai pan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 4 August 2012 04:01 (eleven years ago) link

adrenalize was probably the most disappointing album of my youth

appreciate this but wd remind the jury this is a board where people rep for the Smiths

Shrimpface Killah (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 August 2012 04:08 (eleven years ago) link

There are some songs I like on Adrenalize, but I'm willing to admit they sound like Hysteria rejects.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 4 August 2012 04:20 (eleven years ago) link

MOW THE LAWN!
WALK THE DOG!
TAKE OUT THE TRASH!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 4 August 2012 04:30 (eleven years ago) link

Not that one! That song is criminally bad. (And its video is even worse.)

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 4 August 2012 04:30 (eleven years ago) link

It strikes me as weird that this multi-platinum album that was almost inescapable in pop culture for over a calendar year now has sort of a cult following.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 4 August 2012 04:33 (eleven years ago) link

MOW THE LAWN!
WALK THE DOG!
TAKE OUT THE TRASH!

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, August 4, 2012 4:30 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

LET'S GET THE ROCK OUTTA HERE!!!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 4 August 2012 04:36 (eleven years ago) link

...I suppose a rock's outta the question?

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 4 August 2012 05:19 (eleven years ago) link

Please, no more ipecacs.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 4 August 2012 05:38 (eleven years ago) link

My brothers and I sang "Let's Get Rocked" as "Lesbian Rock" (including the obligatory "lesbo all the way"), so I don't think I ever paid much attention to whether the original song was as awesome as our version.

One of my brothers also thought "Pour Some Sugar On Me" was called "Awesome Shoot Hombre".

Old Lunch, Saturday, 4 August 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

"Awesome shoot, hombre, in the name of love."

Hmm...could work.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 4 August 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link

there was that dumb commercial where the guy sings 'Pour Some Shook Up Ramen"

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 4 August 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Okay this was fun to write:

http://thequietus.com/articles/09833-def-leppard-hysteria

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 September 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

:D

Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 September 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

Love the idea of this album, but the non-single tracks are almost all dogs, which was a drag when I had it on cassette. Perfect disc for the MP3 era, however, when I can cull it down to its hits, which are so monolithically hit-like they totally make up for the dross.

Huge as this album was, lotta people forget that "Pyromania" was the second highest selling album of 1983 after "Thriller."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 September 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

but the non-single tracks are almost all dogs

I'm willing to meet you half way on this, but then there's the fact that "Gods of War" might be the best track on the whole album and it wasn't a single.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 September 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

More than the other also-rans, at least I can hum that one, but I guess the lyrics sink it for me.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 September 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

Marvelous fun, Ned. Unfortunately we still get comments like this:

This was rock/metal for people who didn’t like the aforementioned. Massively over-produced, polished, and made for FM radio mass appeal. Perhaps the nadir of stadium poodle-permed rock. However, the reaction against this record was seismic – the Seattle bands, Faith No More, Jane’s Addiction, Pixies… Hysteria should be celebrated as the catalyst for bringing about something far more interesting that was about to happen in rock music…

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 September 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

My second to last paragraph in particular was JUST for them. As well as the earlier one about the continued complaining of 'true metal' types.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 September 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

Nice read! ANd if your second to last paragraph was aimed at them, you and Def Leppard both have a slightly warmer place in my heart now.

ms fotheringham (Crabbits), Monday, 3 September 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

:-)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 September 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

After reading your piece, I think maybe Def Leppard is about two degrees away from something I would totally dig – not metal but more something like two degrees away from The Buggles? All the glam influence/expensive production/cyberpunk underpinnings, looks like something I would dig! IDK maybe I should listen to it again. I just hate Pour Some Sugar On Me so much.

ms fotheringham (Crabbits), Monday, 3 September 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

I don't totally hate it for how it SOUNDS, well I do, but it's also anti-nostalgia of having to hear it every night when I worked graveyard shift making donuts with a bunch of gnarly bros.

ms fotheringham (Crabbits), Monday, 3 September 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

Eurgh. Yeah I wouldn't blame you for that. Try maybe a one/two of the songs "Hysteria" and "Love and Affection" when it's late afternoon/early evening, you're feeling relaxed and the sun's hitting magic hour glow.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 September 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

"Hysteria" is a wonderful, wonderful song

DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Monday, 3 September 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

It takes genius to mix a song so that it sparkles as brightly as "Hysteria."

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 September 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

Is that the track where they recorded each string individually to make chords?

Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 September 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks Ned, that was great!

Mr Veg & I listened to Hysteria on a recent car trip too, and we were both grinning & singing the whole way. There's a heck of a lot of fun at the heart of that album, for sure.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 September 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

Hysteria's the best. Def my favorite track.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 September 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

"Hysteria," the song, is I think the one that cribs from "Every Breath You Take."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 September 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

There's a great bit in the Classic Albums documentary where Phil Collen talked how he, Steve Clark and Lange worked on breaking down all the guitar parts so it was much more textured than simply a straightforward riff ever would be, and I think "Hysteria" was the song used as an example. Certainly would make sense!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 September 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

I need to do "Animal" at karaoke soon. Thanks for the reminder.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 September 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

xxpost -- "Message in a Bottle," actually! Collen specifically mentions that in the documentary as well!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 September 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, now's a great time to point out that, if you're in any way partial to this record, you should watch the Classic Albums episode. It's fascinating.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 September 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

Hell, watch it even if you hate this record.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 September 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I will say that "Hysteria" is the rare example of overproduction working in the album's favor.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 September 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

is the classic albums special on youtube

billstevejim, Monday, 3 September 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

Naturally. Here's the first part:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAWm4Ihp43Q

There's also the bonus footage too.

You can stream the whole episode on Netflix as well.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 September 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

The "over" in overproduction indicates that the process reached a point where no more production was necessary, but the band/producer carried on anyway. I disagree with this whole premise re: Hysteria. It's the most perfectly produced album ever made. Never under, never over. It's just right.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 September 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

I suppose it's a bit of a paradox, isn't it? If excess is the aesthetic goal than you really can't go over the top.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 September 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

The dogs on this are "Excitable" and "Dont Shoot Shotgun". The rest is gold.

Master of Treacle, Monday, 3 September 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

I wonder how they would be viewed now if they had split when SC died.

Master of Treacle, Monday, 3 September 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

That's a good question. However, the thought of 5 or 6 Joe Elliott solo albums is scary.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 September 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

the part in the documentary where Phil Collen is showing their dueling guitar riffs, it's amazing how mathy it seems when taken apart.

Poliopolice, Monday, 3 September 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

I take guitar lessons, and my teacher is always impressed when I bring him something he considers through-composed, whether it's Def Leppard or Bedhead or Television, where the guitarists have put a lot of thought into how their parts fit together.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 September 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

also, it's funny when they're talking about the making of "Rocket" and all the lyrical references they were making to the early 70s glam stuff ("Satellite of Love", "Jean Genie", "Killer Queen, etc)... These were references to things just 12-13 years earlier. If I were writing "Rocket" right now in 2012, and wanted to reference 20 things from 1999 or 2000, what would I mention?

Poliopolice, Monday, 3 September 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

N'Sync, Condi Rice, you know.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 September 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

Y2K

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 September 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

Hell, watch it even if you hate this record.

This would be me - been reading about the making of it in Greg Milner's Perfecting Sound Forever and am kind of intrigued. Actually that's not true, I've never heard the album in full, I just really dislike Def Leppard in general (though I'll grudgingly admit that 'Animal' is quite good apart from the chorus).

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 3 September 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link


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