S/D: Art Ensemble of Chicago

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happy birthday roscoe!

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 3 August 2012 18:38 (six years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

has anybody checked this out yet?


the late great, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 16:52 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I read it and reviewed it for The Wire. It starts off really, really strong, with a ton of biographical info about each of the core members, and the chapters on their time in Paris and the years immediately after are fantastic. There's also some in-depth musical analysis of individual performances, intended to shine a light on their compositional and collective improvisational methodology, which are great if you're a musician but not all that appealing to the lay reader. And once they sign to ECM, he kinda fast-forwards to the point where members start dying off, which is unfortunate. Some serious analysis of the ECM and DIW albums would have been great.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 17:30 (one year ago) Permalink

interesting. sort of mirrors my interest in art ensemble, because while i have quite a few art ensemble albums, the only one after "bap-tizum" i have is "urban bushmen". which i like quite a lot. which of the ECM and DIW albums would you recommend i check out?

the late great, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 19:00 (one year ago) Permalink

Nice Guys is great
― deej.. (deej..), Monday, February 5, 2007 9:33 AM (ten years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 19:26 (one year ago) Permalink

I know almost nothing about their latter-day catalog myself, which is why I was hoping the book would serve as a guide! The only one of the ECMs I've heard is Urban Bushmen, which is great, and the only one of the DIWs I've heard is the one with Cecil Taylor, which...isn't. (They don't speak the same language.)

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 19:47 (one year ago) Permalink

weird why is Urban Bushmen the only ECM one any of us know (including me?)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 19:49 (one year ago) Permalink

I think because it's a Double Live Album it got more attention than the others, maybe?

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 19:52 (one year ago) Permalink

The Third Decade is good!

scott seward, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 20:09 (one year ago) Permalink

i think i have Full Force at home too which came out after Nice Guys but i don't really remember much about it. I don't play Nice Guys much.

i never see the DIW albums for sale. i would probably buy them if i saw them.

scott seward, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 20:16 (one year ago) Permalink

I kind of prefer the ECM era! I dig "Full Force" & love "Third Decade"

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 20:36 (one year ago) Permalink

I also have a weird soft spot for "Non-Cognitive Aspects of the City" from 2006

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 20:39 (one year ago) Permalink

I have Non-Cognitive Aspects of the City because I was at that show (the only time I ever got to see the AEOC) but I never listen to it. It was thrilling to be there at the time, though.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 20:41 (one year ago) Permalink

I will admit a fondness for Coming Home Jamaica- the only DIW I know- although it's quite a trifle by comparison to what came before.

Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 21:22 (one year ago) Permalink

Also post-Lester, Tribute to Lester, which I think was their last on ECM is outstanding IMO, the best they possibly could have done under the circumstances.

Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 21:23 (one year ago) Permalink

'dreaming of the master' off nice guys is v replayable imo

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 10 August 2017 02:45 (one year ago) Permalink

Really enjoying the new Roscoe Mitchell album, Bells for the South Side.

cwkiii, Thursday, 10 August 2017 03:02 (one year ago) Permalink

some related records i like to play:

Joseph Jarman, Famoudou Don Moye ‎– Egwu-Anwu (Sun Song)

Don Pullen, Joseph Jarman, Don Moye ‎– The Magic Triangle

Joseph Jarman - Don Moye ‎– Earth Passage - Density

Joseph Jarman ‎– Song For

Lester Bowie ‎– Fast Last!

Lester Bowie ‎– Rope-A-Dope

Kahil El'Zabar Featuring Lester Bowie, Malachi Favors ‎– The Ritual

and too many roscoe mitchell things to mention. he's on a lot of/made a lot of cool records.

scott seward, Thursday, 10 August 2017 05:04 (one year ago) Permalink

i'll buy any related black saint 80s record i've never heard. and i'm always looking for nessa stuff i don't have. i need this:


scott seward, Thursday, 10 August 2017 05:06 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Talking of the ECM era, this is out next month (mentioned briefly on the Rolling Reissues thread already):


GG Allin: The Musical (Matt #2), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 11:52 (seven months ago) Permalink

Tribute to Lester is about as powerful a record as you could imagine after losing such a key member of the band.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 23:22 (seven months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Douglas R. Ewart of the Association for the Advancement of Creative Musicians (AACM) shares this sad news about saxophonist Joseph Jarman. pic.twitter.com/qxEYmS7dk5

— Ted Gioia (@tedgioia) January 11, 2019

j., Friday, 11 January 2019 03:25 (five months ago) Permalink

rip. as a group they hold a lot of personal significance to me. seems like a life well lived.

call all destroyer, Friday, 11 January 2019 03:31 (five months ago) Permalink

RIP will jam some bap-tizum tonight

the late great, Friday, 11 January 2019 06:58 (five months ago) Permalink


"Song For" was in my 30 CD travel pack for 20 years.

I have 10-12 AACM related CDs, but I want that box set so bad. I feel like such a consumer.

I guess I could give away the CDs I have to some friends, but I don't think any of them deserve to have or would appreciate them.

nicky lo-fi, Sunday, 13 January 2019 19:29 (five months ago) Permalink

i just got the ECM AEC set for christmas — haven't made it all the way through yet, but obviously a ton of great music.

tylerw, Sunday, 13 January 2019 20:55 (five months ago) Permalink

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