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Alfred, I don't recall Clint using an accent in WHBH!

53= Rear Window
North by Northwest
Raging Bull

1 that was on my own fake list and 2 that I'm waaay relieved didn't make the top 50.

The small victories just keep gettin' smaller, huh?

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 August 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link

Tarantino: The Bad New Bears

The greatest baseball movie ever made! Seriously.

Bong Joon-Ho: Zodiac

Does he post here?

Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Friday, 3 August 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link

v possibly the greatest baseball movie ever made, cuz the only other good one is Sugar

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 August 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

a hit from the bong

Ward Fowler, Friday, 3 August 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

Miranda July: Punch Drunk Love

now we know who to blame

Number None, Friday, 3 August 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link

drunk punch Miranda July.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 August 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

Eric's ballsy list is up at sl4nt and I am just glad The Shining missed.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 August 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

I quickly scanned for titles that ran egregiously opposite to the director's style or temperament--was hoping to to see something heavily edited on Bela Tarr's list, or maybe a Pauly Shore film--but nothing jumped out at me.

clemenza, Friday, 3 August 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

Because someone has to. Armond says Vertigo winning is another example of everybody but him being stupid.

http://cityarts.info/2012/08/03/g-o-a-t-topples/

Eric H., Friday, 3 August 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

the numinous The Birds?
the numinous The Birds?
the numinous The Birds?
the numinous The Birds?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 August 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

For years, it’s been quietly accepted that Welles’ follow-up film The Magnificent Ambersons was richer, more complex than Kane

No, actually, it's been vehemently disagreed with, but whatev.

Eric H., Friday, 3 August 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link

and he blasts S&S for "class-based" concerns! The marvel of Armond is he'd blast those guys if they picked CK and cited "class-based" reasons.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

it's on Armond's quiet scale

xp

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

Nick James says The Tree of Life came in at #101 in this interview:

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/02/showbiz/uk-hitchcock-greatest-film-poll/index.html

Eric H., Friday, 3 August 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

Some of you are going to have a hard time with the CNN interviewer in that clip...but she does say In the Mood for Love would be in her own Top 10.

clemenza, Friday, 3 August 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

how many 1990-or-later is that, in total? 4 or 5?

24. In the Mood for Love
28. Mulholland Dr.
35. Satantango
42. Close Up
48. Histoire(s) du Cinema
78. Beau Travail
84. A Brighter Summer Day
93. A One and a Two

Trewster Dare (jaymc), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link

Eight from the last 20 years is pretty impressive given the contradictory presuppositions that, a) movies have allegedly "never been worse," and b) there's so much more for many critics to choose from.

Eric H., Friday, 3 August 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

NB: Sean Durkin listed The Goonies. Jeff Nichols listed Fletch.

Trewster Dare (jaymc), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link

Gore Vidal would have mentioned Airplane!.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

Btw, have they always extended ballots to novice directors like Durkin, Nichols, and Richard Ayoade?

Trewster Dare (jaymc), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

I had to look up both Durkin and Nichols to find out who they were.

clemenza, Friday, 3 August 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

they tripled the amount of directors and quadrupled the amount of critics taking part, but it does seem odd to let first-timers like Durkin and Ayoade have a go

Number None, Friday, 3 August 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

So much for the Indiewire link: "Lists removed at the behest of Sight & Sound."

clemenza, Friday, 3 August 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

Nick James says The Tree of Life came in at #101 in this interview:

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/02/showbiz/uk-hitchcock-greatest-film-poll/index.html

― Eric H., Friday, August 3, 2012 10:10 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

talk about dodging a bullet

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 3 August 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

coppola putting two marties on his list surprises me for some reason

avatar clearly a more defensible pick than movie camera man or whatever, the innaritu is just uncalled for though

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 3 August 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

So much for the Indiewire link: "Lists removed at the behest of Sight & Sound."

I found it repasted here:
http://screencrush.com/directors-top-10/

Trewster Dare (jaymc), Friday, 3 August 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

La Maman et la Putain

^no, this making the top 5,0000 is some srs trolling

― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 August 2012 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

La Maman et La Putain >>>>> anything by Rohmer and Truffaut, thought this was accepted, no kidding.

These are all good picks - glad to see Touki Bouki and Yi Yi

The Leopard
La Maman et la Putain
The Third Man
L'eclisse
Once Upon a Time in the West
Beau Travail
The Colour of Pomegranates
Partie de Campagne
The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp
Touki-Bouki
A One and a Two

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 August 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

So ... POX from the top 100:

Jeanne Dielman
Satantango
Gertrud
La Jetee
Rear Window
Barry Lyndon
The Night of the Hunter
L'eclisse
Nashville
Imitation of Life

Eric H., Friday, 3 August 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

Mann's Avatar ranking is probably just technerd enthusiasm, but I'm hoping it's also a small part of a campaign to finagle a cheap loan of JC's new setup.

RCMP, Friday, 3 August 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

See, canon formation DOES affect the future of the medium.

Eric H., Friday, 3 August 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

Pretty sure I missed the poll where I would have made the case for The Bad News Bears as one of the great movies, but... it is.

Pete Scholtes, Friday, 3 August 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

See, canon formation can also distort the past.

Eric H., Friday, 3 August 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

When I finally watched it a couple of years ago, I was amazed at how unflinching and smart it was about the way adults will embarrass themselves when it comes to kids' sports. I experienced some of that myself when I was younger, in little league and again in high school. Tarantino doesn't strike me as someone who looks at the film through an autobiographical lens, but maybe I'm completely wrong.

clemenza, Friday, 3 August 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

I suspect Tarantino likes it because the kids cuss and use racial slurs a lot.

Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Friday, 3 August 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

thats the same reason he loves His Girl Friday iirc

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 3 August 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

He probably really loved the one scene where all the kids sat around the dugout and analyzed "Afternoon Delight."

clemenza, Friday, 3 August 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

xyzzzz, u r a delinquent.

Richard Ayoade? isn't he in The Watch? What did he direct?

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 August 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

Submarine

Number None, Friday, 3 August 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

ok skipped that one

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 August 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/movies/2012/08/sight_sound_s_greatest_films_of_all_time_list_mocked_and_defiled_.html

The mocking and defiling here is not very convincing--not very clear, either, on a single quick reading.

clemenza, Saturday, 4 August 2012 00:26 (eleven years ago) link

Much better, I think:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-radical-vision-of-sight-sounds-stodgy-bestfilm,83352/

"On the other hand, (Kane) is now liberated from the best-film-ever label, which burdened it with a heavy significance that no film should ever have to carry, much less one as spectacularly entertaining as Kane." Yes--pass all that on to Vertigo, where it seems more at home.

clemenza, Saturday, 4 August 2012 00:32 (eleven years ago) link

As somebody pointed out above, Coppola's got two Scorsese films on his list this time (in 1992, he had one). Scorsese, meanwhile, took Godfather II off his 1992 list, going from one Coppola film to none. (They must not have voted in 2002--their lists were not in the print issue.) Someone may not be getting along very well with someone in the near future. Also notice that Scorsese lists 12 films on his ballot this year rather than 10.

clemenza, Sunday, 5 August 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

really, Coppola's oeuvre has no biz near a 10-greatest list.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 5 August 2012 03:57 (eleven years ago) link

And yet, there it is. Conspiracy or mass hypnosis, probably.

clemenza, Sunday, 5 August 2012 04:25 (eleven years ago) link

There's something in the wine...

Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 5 August 2012 05:19 (eleven years ago) link

99.

The Clock
Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Late Spring
Singin' in the Rain
Playtime
Ménilmontant
Broken Blossoms
Zorn's Lemma
Masculine Feminine

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 5 August 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

Wolcott:

Strip Vertigo of its haunting, Wagnerian eternal-return score by Bernard Herrmann and you've got a muddled Orphic saga that looks like a not-great Steve Ditko comic with a performance by Kim Novak that exerts all the erotic mystery and allure of a burlap bag.

You may disagree and that's your right, as an America

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

I wish he had actually said "as an America"

White sure does love De Palma.

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Monday, 6 August 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

does he though? i find it hard to believe anything he says, whether he's praising something or damning it.

jed_, Monday, 6 August 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

I'm with them on their criticisms of Vertigo, but I definitely wouldn't elevate The Birds over it; the things I don't particularly like about Vertigo are much more bothersome by the time of The Birds.

clemenza, Monday, 6 August 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link


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