Rolling Dance Partisans 2012

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purely and simply music for dickheads

r|t|c, Thursday, 2 August 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

Generally I prefer Slackk's slightly housier productions to his stiff, stop-start grime-influenced bits but Blue Sleet has grown on me a lot, I like the way it builds up.

The Rise of Owl-Bass (Mr Andy M), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

it's a fun little tune, doesn't seem especially "trap"-influenced to me compared to a lot of 2012 productions.

i love the new Airhead joint ("pyramid lake").

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

the best thing about that video is the old school cgi which of course they fail to credit

the late great, Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.nataliastuyk.com

My first attempt at 3D - an aerial odyssey over mountains, cities and mirrored deserts for Slackk's track Blue Sleet, produced by Local Action Records.

r|t|c, Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

WUT WUT WUT WUT~~~

r|t|c, Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

^ I get your point (erm or at least I think I do) but I feel that with Slackk and a lot of other recent stuff that draws on early grime the point is that it's done as an almost scholarly exercise you're supposed to recognize the reference points. To me it's almost the dance/electronic equivalent of 'record-collection rock', where informed listeners will take pleasure in spotting all the classic building blocks and the way they've recombined.
In general I think a lot of the fans of Night Slugs and stuff with a similar aesthetic value it because it combines elements of stuff they were already into - grime, r&b, US regional club genres - and the fact that they've managed to achieve critical and dancefloor popularity with those elements feels to the long-termers like a kind of vindication.

Obv there's loads of projection and supposition in this argument - part of prob comes from my online interaction with Slackk who in his tasted comes over as an almost obsessively 'proper grime' kind of guy so it's hard not to see his doing genre exercises like this as an act of tribute on his part, paying homage to his roots. And obv the response will vary from listener to listener, and there will be some people out there going 'woah this is so fresh, how on earth did he come up with such striking synth and drum sounds?' in which case yeah you're perfectly entitled to point them straigh to things like the TNT mix (which I'm banging out right now).

The Rise of Owl-Bass (Mr Andy M), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

Should be 'scholarly exercise where you're supposed to', posting in a bit of a rush.
More generally I admire the certainty and purity of your tastes in these things, but for better or worse it's not how I am, if I were to draw lines with that degree of confidence it would feel dishonest.

The Rise of Owl-Bass (Mr Andy M), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

i think rtc is mad because an online music magazine called slackk "future grime"

the late great, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

Nah, nah, he's hyper-grime. Intelligent grime for dickheads, right?

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

g^2

the late great, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

I think I may agree with Lex in that Ikonika's newest overshadows this one considerably, similar sound palette.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

Still the CGI is cool, and 99% of juke/trap/whatever coming out of the UK is just annoying.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

i'm surprised it's contemporary cgi!

the late great, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HzyUHxmkg0&feature=relmfu

Ehhh.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

Lunice, sounding like a twat

“(Mohawke) was saying, a lot of people on major labels, they know we’re around. They’re very well aware of us, but don’t even bother trying to contact us. They just straight frickin’ rob us, almost. I wouldn’t say ‘rob’ – (they) just get the idea, then get another producer to do it. And for a while we were like, ‘Whatever, we’ve got our own little scene going, I don’t mind and it’s all good”. But after that we were like, “Okay, okay, hold up, it’s getting a little too obvious!”

“We didn’t think about breaking in fully until we did the TNGHT project together, and the response we got from rappers from that. We were like, “You know what? Let’s just straight bring it in. Straight bring it in. We’ve been doing this shit for years, and it’s not like we’re new or anything, it’s not like we’re new money shit, it’s not like we came out of the blue and we blew up like crazy. We’ve built a whole foundation of our work. So it’s about that time. I feel like that sort of movement is backed with all of our homies together, like: “This is us! You can’t do this shit! You can’t just take our ideas and come up with it all after all these years. We’re coming for you!’ (Laughs). That kind of thing.”

Number None, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

xxxp eh i am nothing like a tru grime soldier and couldnt really give a stuff how it gets dressed up these days. grime lifers are p much the worst tbh

just inchoate contempt and eye-rolling for chillwave 8bar and the wonderful world of fact music debasing every currency available as usual is all

i know i shouldve been grown up enough to resist straying onto this terre mavaise again

r|t|c, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

nngh mauvaise even

never misspell the 10 cent word, kids

r|t|c, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

at least they're unapologetic/direct about wanting to make rap beats and do production work for mainstream vocalists, that's kind of refreshing.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

who would want to apologize for making $$$$$ is what i want to know

the late great, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

i was more talking about the "they're stealing our ideas" bit

Number None, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

Didn't Kanye just commission a remix from them?

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

dunno? Mohawke contributed "additional instruments" to "Mercy"

Number None, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

who would want to apologize for making $$$$$ is what i want to know

i mean wanting to engage with u.s. rap artists rather than just making their own insular/instrumental version of it.

i was more talking about the "they're stealing our ideas" bit

yeah that's ridiculous. i don't doubt that lots of u.s. producers are aware of them, but clearly a ton of ideas have flowed the other way.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETdeV8nvmVs&feature=player_embedded#!

I guess this is what I was thinking of, just an edit.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

On a brighter note, Eprom's take on this sound is kind of more my thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K-RXu_pDFQ

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

is that danton eeprom?

the late great, Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know if any of you follow SergDun on twitter but his rants about "nerds ruining trap" have been entertaining.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

No, I think this guy is Bay Area.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=h0_rY4_rbkQ

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

this is the best:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqVjfKuN3TM

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

also v. good in a similar vein:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_DymGi9f7g

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

I love Shigeto, thanks for the heads up on that one. You're the Jordan that lives in Madison, right?

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

yup - are you in town?

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I thought it was funny that we both listen to and make the same general kinds of music in the same city and haven't ever met.

Unless you hang out at the DJ shop or know Wyatt Agard, I used to go to his Ableton classes.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that is crazy given what a small town this is, although i don't go out to a ton of shows/dj nights unless i'm playing or a friend is. i might have met wyatt once through my friend nate, but don't know him.

we should hang though, lemme know if you have a gig coming up or whatever.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

I pretty much gave up deejaying when I started to get serious about making beats again, I've got the Traktor setup but its been gathering dust for a while.

Need to get back on that horse soon, I guess.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

word. we should probably take it off-thread but i've been doing Chants shows at least monthly, come say hi sometime!

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

this Arca record is inspiring

40oz of tears (Jordan), Monday, 6 August 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgOxm5qK4Wc&feature=player_embedded#!

Pay very close attention to the flow.

Josiah Alan, Friday, 10 August 2012 03:43 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

my shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-RomudoedQ

40oz of tears (Jordan), Monday, 27 August 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link

Crazy detailed production is crazy.

formerly EDB (ed.b), Monday, 27 August 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Nx1ova5BSG8

pattern loader, Sunday, 2 September 2012 08:52 (eleven years ago) link

http://soundcloud.com/markrh/sets/12-coming-july-2012

Aardvarck's last couple releases have been huge sounding, gigantic drums.

Josiah Alan, Sunday, 2 September 2012 09:02 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1709

Feel a migraine coming on.

Josiah Alan, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

At risk of turning this thread into my blog, anyone listened to the NeferTT release on Hotflush?

I've been trying to figure out who it might be, Falty DL, Machinedrum, maybe Boxcutter?

Pyramel is cool.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 13 September 2012 01:13 (eleven years ago) link

It's a duo i think? Falty DL is definitely involved though

Number None, Thursday, 13 September 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link

I could definitely see this being Falty DL and Boxcutter, sounds like a halfway point between their styles.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

forget what counts as dance and what counts as bobbins and what counts as bass, but a friend of mine who spins in the city a lot and constantly is putting stuff together but until recently hasn't bothered putting anything out got a track on this top billing comp. http://topbillinmusic.bandcamp.com/album/bass-bonez-compiled-by-flipperi-2

haven't gotten a chance to spin the whole thing, but his joint is 'Always Got My Back' and I've been enjoying it / think it's good enough to call folks attn to.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 5 October 2012 06:03 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

cashemere cat y'al

have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link


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