the totally insane true story behind the 1970s film and book Sybil

Holy shit, this sounds insane: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Remembers

A 1995 book found further inconsistencies in Smith’s allegations; the authors found no newspaper record of the car crash that the book describes in the time frame described despite the fact that the local newspaper reported on all vehicle accidents at the time. Former neighbors, teachers and friends were interviewed and yearbooks from Smith’s elementary school were reviewed and found no indication of Smith being absent from school or missing for lengthy periods of time, including the alleged 81-day non-stop ceremony. Ultimately the book's authors were unable to find anyone who knew Smith in the 1950s who could corroborate any of the details in her allegations.[12]
A 2002 article by Kerr Cuhulain[17] not only explored the inconsistencies in Smith’s allegations, but also their unlikeliness. Among other things, Cuhulain noted that it seemed unlikely that a sophisticated cult that had secretly existed for generations could be outwitted by a five-year-old; that the cult could hold rituals in the Ross Bay Cemetery unnoticed given that Smith claimed she was screaming and given that the Ross Bay Cemetery is surrounded on three sides by residential neighborhoods; that an 81-day non-stop ceremony involving hundreds of participants and a massive round room could have gone on in Victoria unnoticed; and that none of Smith’s tormentors (other than her mother) have ever been identified, especially given that some of them had cut off one of their middle fingers at the Black Mass. Like other authors,[6][9][12] Cuhulain also noted that many of Smith's recovered memories appear to have reflected elements in popular culture at the time (e.g.: the movie The Exorcist) and Pazder's own religious beliefs and experiences from when he was living and working in Africa in the early 1960s. Finally, Cuhulain hypothesized that Smith's motivation for making the allegations may have come from her desire to spend time with Pazder; though both were initially married to other people, they divorced their spouses and re-married each other after the publication of the book.[17]

This thread has played a small part in my already-increasing scepticism towards modern psychiatry.

check out what came in the mail yesterday!!
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8283/7698043578_d3386176b9_z.jpg

Cover cutout opens to reveal scared female child (w/ doll) surrounded by candles, three ghosts, and SATAN looming on top.

"Who won the battle of good and evil in the mind and body of an innocent child?"

Why is the writing backwards? Does Satan have a hand in this?

clearly

"Who won the battle of good and evil in the mind and body of an innocent child?"

always bet on evil

Can I borrow it when you're done???

PS Shit is getting REAL in Sybil Exposed. Holy cow! I do not feel very kindly towards old Connie Wilbur!

http://pages.simonandschuster.com/sybilexposed/photos

Serpatilin!

This thread has played a small part in my already-increasing scepticism towards modern psychiatry.

There are so many depressing stories related to psychiatry in Sybil Exposed (especially the one about the teenage girls that were stripped and filmed in the psych ward by doctors) that it made me even more mistrustful of psychiatrists than I was going in.

Oh man, that Brice Taylor image upthread reminds me that I've seen a video interview segment with her. Satanic ritual abuse! Celebrities and politicians!

The 80s were so extremely fucked and anyone who grew up during that time probably still has some weird cultural mental baggage. I know I do. Two boys actually were abducted/disappeared in '82/'84 -- completely odd, but both were paperboys so that was seen as some sort of link that the cases were related. It led to some parents being extremely cautious, and fed a lot of ritual abuse and abduction stories.

Actually were abducted in my area, I mean.,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_child_prostitution_ring_allegations

Not to detract from the main story of MPD, here, but allegations of weird child abuse rings were definitely a thing, and as aero mentioned, often used as explanations in the case of abuse much closer to home.

have we gone over the McMartin case yet

longest and most expensive criminal trial in history

well, up until 1990 anyway

oh fuck, on the SRA tip, i highly endorse this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Remembering-Satan-Tragic-Recovered-Memory/dp/0679755829

notable because the recovered memories in this case come from the alleged perpetrator, and upstanding christian family man & police officer... wild stuff

I am going to this bizarre used bookstore tonight. In what section would these types of books be found? Psychology? Biography?

christian studies

the repressed memories of satanic pedophilia section

i'd ask the owner!

Can I borrow it when you're done???
Of course!

Eeeeee thank you, I am very excited!

Occult for the satanic-related ones, psychology or biography for a book like Sybil.

La Lechera why u so occult! Always with the hidden visage in your pix!

i have to protect my selves from satan

he is real iirc

um way late but LL I looooooooove you for this thread

I practically lived in the library throughout high school, and read ALL that crazy shit;...Sybil - check! Go Ask Alice - check! Amityville Horror - check!
Dark Side of the Moonies anybody?

I am SO going to read Sybil Exposed! and Michelle Remembers! And Satans Silence! And The Shoemaker! eeee is it sad that I'm so excited about this sad creepy trashy stuff?

I was really REALLY hoping that the internet would provide a clip of Connie Wilbur and Flora Schreiber on the Dick Cavett show, but no such luck.

I just got to the Boomy Bum Boo part, too. Boomy Bum Barf, more like it.

I have a separate bookshelf for hardcover occult/paranormal stuff which ppl ITT would probably dig. fave book on it right now is called "Demons, Demons, Demons"

I know she was mentioned way upthread but the Cornerstone article about Laurel Rose Wilson faking Satanic Underground is a very good read in this genre. And she had a second career as a fake Holocaust survivor whose evidence in part came from befriending ANOTHER fake Holocaust survivor, "Binjamin Wilkomirski". I got sucked down some fake HOlocaust survivor internet rabbit hole one day, that shit is just weird. iirc Jerzy Kosinski came up thought I forget the context?

oh man one of my favorite thrift store VHS finds is on youtube, EXPOSING THE SATANIC WEB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_1fTKw6BNw
Dave Roever spoke in Cruces on this topic when I lived there but I didn't get to catch it – he's still going with this stuff!

"This is a very explicit documentary exposing the truly demonic and dangerous realities of satanism. Absolutely, not for children or even young teens."

Watching Sybil now. I got the book too but I'm not sure I have the patience to read 400 pages of bullshit just to know that it's bullshit.

Some cool strings.

I seriously have completely changed my tune on the Sybil movie -- it used to scare the crap out of me, but now that I know the backstory, as I said before, I am ready to defend it as an unheralded hag horror classic. It's the best kind of fiction -- sold as nonfiction, but is fiction, and eventually is appreciated as a completely made up horror story within a greater horror story that IS real. Complicated "nonfiction" fiction with a backstory! What more could a person ask for.

Sally Field is kind of great!

She is! And Joanne Woodward played Eve in The Three Faces of Eve, which is just extra super rich.
http://media-3.web.britannica.com/eb-media/52/77152-004-AB40389D.jpg

also omg dave roever
i'm sure he has seen some of the bizarre

OMG, Vicky!

The Dave Roever documentary is great. I really want to know what those people are up to now, the fake satanist and the crazy police lady in particular.

Holy shit, this thread has been 100% A+ so far.

The Dungeons & Dragons Panic started with this book:

http://static.dangerousminds.net/uploads/images/the-dugeon-master-by-william-dear_thumb.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dallas_Egbert_III has the details, it's a sad case - easier for everyone involved to believe that D&D caused him to break with reality than accept that he was probably gay.

This book is worth looking out for...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ERfaJkw5L._SL500_SS500_.jpg

background: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candy_Jones

Outstanding article on the current phenomena of TIs a.k.a. Target Individuals. Folks who believe that they are currently targets of government/new world order/etc. mind control operations: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/10/AR2007011001399.html

Finished watching. It's a good horror movie, although I wish I hadn't already seen clips on Youtube. Gets a little lame at the very end. If you actually believed that all of this was true and completely believable, I can imagine that it would seem pretty heady.

Ha, I dimly remember writing a short story about someone with multiple personalities in a high school 'writer's craft' class. Iirc the personalities talked to each other, like Sybil's do, which the teacher objected to.

Frank Kogan writes:
I'm pleased to say that, searching Google images for "left right molar," I found Paul McCartney (or should I say "Paul McCartneys"?) on both page 2 and page 7, each bringing me to his Webpage:



http://www.thebeatlesneverexisted.com/ctrn/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=242&start=48


Rooting about further, I discover http://www.thebeatlesneverexisted.com/ctrn/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=12

“The purpose of this site is to research and discuss the anomalies, mysteries, conspiracies and coverups surrounding The Beatles, individually and collectively, and we need your ‘Help!’ in doing so. Our intention is not to attack or defame them, or to turn anyone against them or their music. It is the opinion of the Admin that they were apparently and most likely being used (exploited and abused) for adverse social engineering, by perpetrators unknown to and unseen by the public.

”When I set out on this journey, it was ONLY to research the information concerning whether Paul McCartney had died or been killed. I never in my wildest dreams, ever figured it would take me where it has, but it did this all on its own. One question after another kept cropping up without an answer, and I kept setting out to find an answer for it. One thing led to another, until I had to come to the decision that the explanation for it all lies beyond our known realm of explanation and technology. I eventually came upon the explanations for cloning and human simulacra, especially at a spirituality site named Star Gods which has a page explaining Paul McCartney as a product of Human Simulacra; a technology which has existed longer than we've known about. It was first used on humans in 1927. The ruling elite are about a hundred years ahead of what they tell us or allow us to access, in what they are able to do.

“There is high strangeness surrounding these individuals, and you will learn more about it as you take our version of the ‘Magical Mystery Tour,’ and we delve into the lives of the Fabricated Four, or maybe it's forty-four, or even more.

There is something very highly unusual about the young men who comprised ‘The Beatles.’ There were a great many more of them than we've ever known about, and the fact that there are certain distinguishing characteristics that are shared, which cannot be 'copied over' through plastic surgery, etc., now needs an alternative explanation. With that in mind, as to the views that will be presented here about who The Beatles may have been and what their purpose was, may I request that you withhold judgment until you read everything we have to say. Then, why make a judgment at all? You 'know' what you 'know', and you 'don't know' what you 'don't know'. What you believe - whether PID, PIA or PWR - has little to do with Truth. Don't take our word for it, do your own research, too, and be convinced of what you know. Things are only impossible until they are not.”

Other than that she’s batshit, she seems like a nice person, as in these forum rules:

http://www.thebeatlesneverexisted.com/ctrn/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=214

E.g., “All I ask is that everyone please refrain from attacking or flaming other posters. Please do not use obscene or rude language, or have a hateful or know-it-all attitude towards others. We will not all agree on these things, and I think it was always intended to be such. Perhaps we're even being made to see different things when we look at the same pictures and videos, or hear the same songs and music. Something has to account for all the disagreement in all the factions and sects of this topic.”

Paul McCan'tBe is my favourite conspiracy theory, in which I mean it's one of the more bonkers ones.

If you haven't seen the Rotten Apple series on youtube, especially if you're reasonably familiar with beatles lore, i suggest you check them out. They're terrific fun, partly because it's hard to work out if they're serious or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlQHoelGzbM

I'm guessing not btw.