a thread for hitchcock's 'vertigo'

nearly came to blows once with a friend who insisted that grant was a bad actor. well, not to blows, but we both yelled a lot.

I guess he was serviceable in Notorious.

It's not that he's a bad actor, but my ultimate "do not want" gay archetype.

gay archetype.... Chevy Chase has usurped Eric's keyboard.

"bloated"

oh Eric H. i could have gone the rest of my life not knowing you have no use for cary grant :(

btw Vertigo was not MADE in 70mm. I don't care for the new gunshot sound effects in the first scene either.

"serviceable"!!!

Boy, Vertigo is awesome.

"irrelevant setpieces" [sic] objected to by de Palma/Tarantino fan -- extry, extry!

what gay archetype is cary grant

if you don't like screwball or NxNW there's not much grant left to like!

i used to call him my favorite actor but i think stewart wins by a nose these days.

English, acrobat, likes Irene Dunne

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so was Hitchcock lying when he claimed he'd offered Vertigo to Grant first?

Thanks for taking the bait, Morbs.

xpost so not only is it the greatest film ever® it's also the biggest narrowly averted train wreck!

the thought of grant in 'vertigo' is genuinely unsettling.

i am really glad it wasn't Cary Grant in Vertigo because i need to love him

Hitchcock was miffed at Vertigo's lukewarm box office, tried to blame Stewart's age -- we know this, right?

So is Madeleine's escape from the McKittrick Hotel a ghostly enigma, or is Grandma Walton ("Oh, Mr Detective?") in on Elster's plot?

Because Cary Grant was so much younger. Or younger at all in the first place.

well, there's the irony.

and you've all seen the "censorship" ending? talk about a third nipple...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imbLXT2K--M

kinda glad that scene exists because i always wanted to know what happened to midge!

glad it wasn't in the actual movie, of course, because the actual ending is jesus christ wtf just happened here oh god no.

holy crap, why did they do that?

also midge deserved better

well the idea was the audience has to know that Gavin Elster is punished.

No one is thinking about Gavin Elster in the last 5 minutes.

lol true. but even then, it's pretty lame - they're going to extradite him from the south of France? come on!

also I like the interp that Scottie jumps to his death right after the fadeout.

I like the interpretation that the nun blows him away.

well, then it mighta made ke1th u's list

I kid, but The Mad Songs of Fernanda Hussein was sooooo bad

That's very weird--I'd never seen that. (I was thinking it was some user-generated parody at first, concocted from DVD extra footage, and that something preposterous was going to be spliced in.)

but yeah, i mean, it could be because that original ending to me is absolutely all-time undefeatable, but the alternate ending is just ugh

Yeah, Hitch really stuck the landing with Vertigo.

but still Hitchcock put in a joke with the radio guy: students "pshing a cow up the steps"... just like Judy!

pUshing

pshaw-ing Judy ... maybe Cary Grant should've been cast after all

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My first argument with Morbs was when he shook his head after I called Cary Grant the greatest actor of the 20th century.

My first argument with Morbs

should be a thread

i like this movie more when i'm not watching it. the colors sure are pretty tho.

i like this movie more when i'm not watching it

Actually kinda sorta think this might be true of me too. In that sense, it's the counterpart to Rear Window, which is at its most awesome when you're actually watching it.

And you're later thinking, Grace Kelly is so hot for this guy?

No, more that Thelma Ritter works magic with her fingers.

and she can twirl a snifter

Cary Grant was not versatile enough to be the greatest actor of the 20th century. He was brilliant at what he could do.

Favorite non-Vertigo performance of Henry Jones, who plays the droopy-dog coroner? I'd have to go with either the town drunk in 3:10 to Yuma or Cloris Leachman's father-in-law on "Phyllis" (also set in SF btw).

I'll go with the gimmicky early-70s made-for-TV movie where he played a mailman delivering three critical letters to various people...no idea what the title was.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070304/fullcredits

He's also in The Girl Can't Help It, Dick Tracy, and Butch Cassidy.

That's it! Lyle Waggoner and Ken Berry--that's bringing out the early-'70s heavy artillery.

Carol Burnett musta been on hiatus

you're not versatile enough!

http://trueclassics.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/devlin-notorious.jpg

who needs versatile anyway

Hedda Hopper, apparently.

Fri, Sep-21; see also Sep-25
6:00pm @ Gene Siskel Film Center
Vertigo (Alfred Hitchcock, 1958, 129m)
NOTE: "Vertigo will be screened in a rare original IB Technicolor release print. If you have only seen one of the recent restorations, or seen the film on DVD or other video, you haven't really seen it. The sound in the most recent restoration was badly redone, and this is a film that especially depends on the 'look' of IB Technicolor. "