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also, a dawn to dusk fast is significantly less debilitating than a 24 hour fast

Mordy, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

i'd be more concerned about the health, esp related to hydration, of anyone fasting while working at a camp than i'd be concerned about the children

Mordy, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

to be completely honest, sometimes i have thought ramadan-in-its-full-devotional-dimension is not completely compatible with modern lives/economies. in muslim countries, stuff does tend to shut down during the day during ramadan and sometimes i wonder how that's economically feasible, but i don't know the particulars in much detail. (also the idea of an order where people don't have to work for a month seems kind of awesome to me, but that's neither here nor there.) in non-muslim countries, muslims fast all month and do their work. i used to be one of those muslims and i never had a problem.

xp it's really fine. you hydrate a lot before dawn and when you break you fast at dusk.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

speaking as someone who worked at camps during fast days, even if you hydrate before dawn and after dusk you're still being exposed to very hot weather that really necessitates hydration throughout the day. this is why, i believe, ortho camps do indoor movie watching type stuff on fast days and not regularly scheduled sports/outdoors/swimming/hiking type programming

Mordy, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, i mean, i worked in a camp this summer and it is hard for me to imagine not drinking water all day, but i don't know. maybe this is wack faux-biology on my part, but i feel like fasting for a month, your body kind of re-adjusts and regulates itself differently.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

I'll admit that I was sorta shocked when I learned that anothe, Muslim, student had scheduled his board exam at the end of Ramadan. Like, dude, it's high summer and you're studying with no brain sugar. But he told me that you just get used to it.

Also loads of ppl in the world do what Muslims do on the reg, without thinking about it: coffee/snack in the morning, skip lunch, go home and eat dinner.

catbus otm (gbx), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

my dad has practiced pediatrics his entire professional life fasting during ramadan. will no one think of the misdiagnosed children?

horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link

kidding! he's not misdiagnosing children, guys, i promise!

horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

what relevance does the mayor being a communist have?

He's not a Catholic trying to keep France 'European'. He's a secularist trying to lessen the influence of religion on public law and behavior. If you know about the Lois Ferry (the Ferry Laws) of 1881 which made education obligatory, free and, in the case of public education, secular, and the firestorm they have always sparked on the French Right, you can see the context here. Communists in France are occasionally demagogues when it comes to race and culture but they're not the FN or the Action française and generally, they predictably downplay traditional culture(s) and identity in preference to class identity.

sive gallus et mulier (Michael White), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link

They should also bar Type-II diabetics from working in children's camps.

pplains, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

It's a context that has often made me get in massive arguments with French leftists about what I would call 'First Amendment' rights. Having a rooted national culture in a way that we do not (despite WASP hegemony), one that precedes rational ideology and professes loyalty not so much to ideals as racial, even local custom, and to Catholicism ('The eldest daughter of the Church', Pepin as savior of the Papacy, etc...), secular French leftists are far more suspicious of individual religious autonomy than Americans are. Religion has been a huge thorn in the side of France for centuries.

sive gallus et mulier (Michael White), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:30 (eleven years ago) link

What I find interesting about this whole kerfuffle is that the camp workers seem to have provoked the whole thing. It's as if they're saying, "We're here. We're Muslim. Get used to it!"

sive gallus et mulier (Michael White), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

I guess maybe that rhymes in French?

pplains, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

ban vegans from camp counseling

smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

We're talking camp counselors here, right? These Muslims can't be older than 22, right

Ówen P., Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

There are over 40,000 inhabitants in Gennevilliers and a new mosque, built in 2009.

sive gallus et mulier (Michael White), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

Is Kia-Ora racist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB2xYdjt7bE&feature=related

gygax! II: pornograffitti (admrl), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

or Um Bongo?

gygax! II: pornograffitti (admrl), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

where is gygax I

catbus otm (gbx), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

I'm in the Congo now and this is bull***t. doesn't exist.

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Shrimpface Killah (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

http://inamerica.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/06/opinion-why-focus-on-gabby-douglas-hair/?hpt=hp_c2

Not talking about the editorial here but rather its subject, which honestly is reason #1 why I limit my exposure to social media.

keeping things contextual (DJP), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

after training in the humidity of central iowa for so long, I'm amazed she was able to contain her hair at all

your native bacon (mh), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

my friend told me that at least twice this summer her hair has been touched, without her permission, in public

smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

I blame Tosh.0

mississippi joan hart (crüt), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

otm.0

your native bacon (mh), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link

This is me when it comes to discussion about black women and their hair.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/no-words-homer-into-brush.gif

And more because I'm not a woman than because I'm not black.

pplains, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

I watched Gabby get interviewed last night. Her hair looked fine to me, though I wasn't paying attention to it really.

I was more in shock that this young women was born after the Oklahoma City bombing and then the joints in my knees started to hurt.

pplains, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link

Well that's the stupid thing; people were criticizing how her hair looked on the podium after she'd spent the evening competing in the all-around. The only way her hair was going to look immaculate after all of that is if it had been tightly braided.

But, more to the point, SHE JUST WON THE ALL-AROUND MEDAL, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU PEOPLE TUT-TUTTING OVER HER HAIR

keeping things contextual (DJP), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

Has anyone mentioned the monkey ad that ran after Bob Costa's little soliloquy on race?

pplains, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

That… could have been thought out a bit more.

pplains, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

In the middle of a discussion abt Epcot's World Showcase and it's reductiveness and how it is obv problematic in many ways but is it totally 100% awful or is there some redeeming quality in attempting to expose youngsters to the world outside of America?

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 13 August 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

I am a white Irish man living in England and own a rubber duck dressed as a hasidic jew but I bought it at the holocaust memorial in berlin. Well?

straightola, Monday, 13 August 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

I mean yes, when you take cultures and reduce them to a theme park attraction it is like the very definition of cultural tourism/fetishization, and in a way it's saying "We don't want the real modern/current/authentic France or Japan or China or Mexico, we want this really romantic and idealized version that is prob stuck in the past" but idk in my experience visiting it seemed to scratch a bit deeper than the surface and isn't as caricaturey as one might imagine, and the idea of "Hey kids, other cultures/things exist too!" seems less than totally insidious to me.

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 13 August 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

But it does seem like a not completely inauthentic representation of the histories of cultures (in lieu of what is current and modern)

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 13 August 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

I got this phat-ass sombrero at the Mexico pavillion

spanky hotel frogstrot (how's life), Monday, 13 August 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

I am a white Irish man living in England and own a rubber duck dressed as a hasidic jew but I bought it at the holocaust memorial in berlin. Well?

I am a white Irish man living in England and own a rubber duck dressed as a hasidic jew but my girlfriend bought it at the holocaust memorial in berlin, so really I have no public comment on this.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 13 August 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

Does the duck swim in a quackvah?

pplains, Monday, 13 August 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

wheres the thread to post things that are obviously racist?

protected by viper. stand back. (D-40), Monday, 13 August 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

http://i45.tinypic.com/10dy0pd.jpg

starfish succulents (unregistered), Monday, 13 August 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

xp to djp

Because why not: Roger Fidelity's own election day thread, one to the public

pplains, Monday, 13 August 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

That Jewish duck is awesome.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 03:05 (eleven years ago) link

Posts that effortlessly etc

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 04:06 (eleven years ago) link

britishist maybe

Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 August 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

yeah maybe
WHAT IS HE SAYING LOLOLOLOLOL
um, it's pretty clear what he's saying?

"Batshit crazy," the foam clog tycoon said. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 August 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

i've seen american tv shows do that for british white ppl too tho

Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 August 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

that is totally Britishist

also I cop to watching TMZ but really I just want to punch everyone on that show in the privates

Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Friday, 17 August 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

the kids are on youtube, they're downloading all the music

what the fuck doesn't TMZ understand? Plus, I think the "????"s are there to trick you into not hearing the actual normal-assed English words that are coming out of this guys mouth.

how's life, Friday, 17 August 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

normal-arsed iirc

Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 August 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link


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