the totally insane true story behind the 1970s film and book Sybil

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Yes he's in DENVER!! I wonder if he can give me exorcism lessons!

homosexual II, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

lol @ GOT DEMON?

linguistically speaking, i love how 'demon' can be used as a general catch-all for what's plaguing you
everyone's got demons
they're real!

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

demon in spatula form

giallo pudding pops (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

Whoa! Just been floored that Michelle Remembers took place in Victoria, BC of all places! I vacationed there when I was six, so maybe my fond childhood memories colors it a bit, but there simply cannot be a less satanic cult environment.

Theodora Celery, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 02:11 (eleven years ago) link

Now I wanna read it to see if there were any orgies/blood rituals in Butchart Gardens, the Empress Hotel and Thunderbird Park.

Theodora Celery, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 02:16 (eleven years ago) link

Holy shit, this sounds insane: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Remembers

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 August 2012 05:01 (eleven years ago) link

A 1995 book found further inconsistencies in Smith’s allegations; the authors found no newspaper record of the car crash that the book describes in the time frame described despite the fact that the local newspaper reported on all vehicle accidents at the time. Former neighbors, teachers and friends were interviewed and yearbooks from Smith’s elementary school were reviewed and found no indication of Smith being absent from school or missing for lengthy periods of time, including the alleged 81-day non-stop ceremony. Ultimately the book's authors were unable to find anyone who knew Smith in the 1950s who could corroborate any of the details in her allegations.[12]
A 2002 article by Kerr Cuhulain[17] not only explored the inconsistencies in Smith’s allegations, but also their unlikeliness. Among other things, Cuhulain noted that it seemed unlikely that a sophisticated cult that had secretly existed for generations could be outwitted by a five-year-old; that the cult could hold rituals in the Ross Bay Cemetery unnoticed given that Smith claimed she was screaming and given that the Ross Bay Cemetery is surrounded on three sides by residential neighborhoods; that an 81-day non-stop ceremony involving hundreds of participants and a massive round room could have gone on in Victoria unnoticed; and that none of Smith’s tormentors (other than her mother) have ever been identified, especially given that some of them had cut off one of their middle fingers at the Black Mass. Like other authors,[6][9][12] Cuhulain also noted that many of Smith's recovered memories appear to have reflected elements in popular culture at the time (e.g.: the movie The Exorcist) and Pazder's own religious beliefs and experiences from when he was living and working in Africa in the early 1960s. Finally, Cuhulain hypothesized that Smith's motivation for making the allegations may have come from her desire to spend time with Pazder; though both were initially married to other people, they divorced their spouses and re-married each other after the publication of the book.[17]

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 August 2012 05:07 (eleven years ago) link

This thread has played a small part in my already-increasing scepticism towards modern psychiatry.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 August 2012 05:09 (eleven years ago) link

check out what came in the mail yesterday!!
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8283/7698043578_d3386176b9_z.jpg

Cover cutout opens to reveal scared female child (w/ doll) surrounded by candles, three ghosts, and SATAN looming on top.

"Who won the battle of good and evil in the mind and body of an innocent child?"

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

Why is the writing backwards? Does Satan have a hand in this?

clemenza, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

clearly

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

"Who won the battle of good and evil in the mind and body of an innocent child?"

always bet on evil

giallo pudding pops (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

Can I borrow it when you're done???

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

PS Shit is getting REAL in Sybil Exposed. Holy cow! I do not feel very kindly towards old Connie Wilbur!

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

http://pages.simonandschuster.com/sybilexposed/photos

Serpatilin!

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

This thread has played a small part in my already-increasing scepticism towards modern psychiatry.

There are so many depressing stories related to psychiatry in Sybil Exposed (especially the one about the teenage girls that were stripped and filmed in the psych ward by doctors) that it made me even more mistrustful of psychiatrists than I was going in.

LISTEN TO THIS BRAD (Nicole), Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

Oh man, that Brice Taylor image upthread reminds me that I've seen a video interview segment with her. Satanic ritual abuse! Celebrities and politicians!

The 80s were so extremely fucked and anyone who grew up during that time probably still has some weird cultural mental baggage. I know I do. Two boys actually were abducted/disappeared in '82/'84 -- completely odd, but both were paperboys so that was seen as some sort of link that the cases were related. It led to some parents being extremely cautious, and fed a lot of ritual abuse and abduction stories.

your native bacon (mh), Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

Actually were abducted in my area, I mean.,

your native bacon (mh), Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_child_prostitution_ring_allegations

Not to detract from the main story of MPD, here, but allegations of weird child abuse rings were definitely a thing, and as aero mentioned, often used as explanations in the case of abuse much closer to home.

your native bacon (mh), Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

have we gone over the McMartin case yet

giallo pudding pops (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

longest and most expensive criminal trial in history

well, up until 1990 anyway

giallo pudding pops (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

oh fuck, on the SRA tip, i highly endorse this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Remembering-Satan-Tragic-Recovered-Memory/dp/0679755829

notable because the recovered memories in this case come from the alleged perpetrator, and upstanding christian family man & police officer... wild stuff

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

I am going to this bizarre used bookstore tonight. In what section would these types of books be found? Psychology? Biography?

homosexual II, Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

christian studies

your native bacon (mh), Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

the repressed memories of satanic pedophilia section

giallo pudding pops (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

i'd ask the owner!

Can I borrow it when you're done???
Of course!

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

Eeeeee thank you, I am very excited!

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

Occult for the satanic-related ones, psychology or biography for a book like Sybil.

LISTEN TO THIS BRAD (Nicole), Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

La Lechera why u so occult! Always with the hidden visage in your pix!

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

i have to protect my selves from satan

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

he is real iirc

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

um way late but LL I looooooooove you for this thread

I practically lived in the library throughout high school, and read ALL that crazy shit;...Sybil - check! Go Ask Alice - check! Amityville Horror - check!
Dark Side of the Moonies anybody?

I am SO going to read Sybil Exposed! and Michelle Remembers! And Satans Silence! And The Shoemaker! eeee is it sad that I'm so excited about this sad creepy trashy stuff?

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 August 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

I was really REALLY hoping that the internet would provide a clip of Connie Wilbur and Flora Schreiber on the Dick Cavett show, but no such luck.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Saturday, 4 August 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

I just got to the Boomy Bum Boo part, too. Boomy Bum Barf, more like it.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Saturday, 4 August 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

I have a separate bookshelf for hardcover occult/paranormal stuff which ppl ITT would probably dig. fave book on it right now is called "Demons, Demons, Demons"

steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 4 August 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

I know she was mentioned way upthread but the Cornerstone article about Laurel Rose Wilson faking Satanic Underground is a very good read in this genre. And she had a second career as a fake Holocaust survivor whose evidence in part came from befriending ANOTHER fake Holocaust survivor, "Binjamin Wilkomirski". I got sucked down some fake HOlocaust survivor internet rabbit hole one day, that shit is just weird. iirc Jerzy Kosinski came up thought I forget the context?

real faker (Crabbits), Saturday, 4 August 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

oh man one of my favorite thrift store VHS finds is on youtube, EXPOSING THE SATANIC WEB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_1fTKw6BNw
Dave Roever spoke in Cruces on this topic when I lived there but I didn't get to catch it – he's still going with this stuff!

real faker (Crabbits), Saturday, 4 August 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

"This is a very explicit documentary exposing the truly demonic and dangerous realities of satanism. Absolutely, not for children or even young teens."

real faker (Crabbits), Saturday, 4 August 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

Watching Sybil now. I got the book too but I'm not sure I have the patience to read 400 pages of bullshit just to know that it's bullshit.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 10 August 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link

Some cool strings.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 10 August 2012 02:52 (eleven years ago) link

I seriously have completely changed my tune on the Sybil movie -- it used to scare the crap out of me, but now that I know the backstory, as I said before, I am ready to defend it as an unheralded hag horror classic. It's the best kind of fiction -- sold as nonfiction, but is fiction, and eventually is appreciated as a completely made up horror story within a greater horror story that IS real. Complicated "nonfiction" fiction with a backstory! What more could a person ask for.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 10 August 2012 03:02 (eleven years ago) link

Sally Field is kind of great!

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 10 August 2012 03:12 (eleven years ago) link

She is! And Joanne Woodward played Eve in The Three Faces of Eve, which is just extra super rich.
http://media-3.web.britannica.com/eb-media/52/77152-004-AB40389D.jpg

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 10 August 2012 03:15 (eleven years ago) link

also omg dave roever
i'm sure he has seen some of the bizarre

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 10 August 2012 03:17 (eleven years ago) link

OMG, Vicky!

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 10 August 2012 03:31 (eleven years ago) link

The Dave Roever documentary is great. I really want to know what those people are up to now, the fake satanist and the crazy police lady in particular.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 10 August 2012 07:37 (eleven years ago) link

Holy shit, this thread has been 100% A+ so far.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 11 August 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

The Dungeons & Dragons Panic started with this book:

http://static.dangerousminds.net/uploads/images/the-dugeon-master-by-william-dear_thumb.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dallas_Egbert_III has the details, it's a sad case - easier for everyone involved to believe that D&D caused him to break with reality than accept that he was probably gay.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 11 August 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

This book is worth looking out for...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ERfaJkw5L._SL500_SS500_.jpg

background: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candy_Jones

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 11 August 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

Outstanding article on the current phenomena of TIs a.k.a. Target Individuals. Folks who believe that they are currently targets of government/new world order/etc. mind control operations: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/10/AR2007011001399.html

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 11 August 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link


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