rolling 2012 UKG interzone bubblers thread

This looks like all my favourite tunes in one convenient package.

i know right?

you ever get round that fabian 'ride' btw

Yes! It's excellent. The decision to redo the "No Diggity" vocals seems wrongheaded right up to the amazing overlapping-vocoders-of-ecstasy chorus.

I haven't really been following this thread at all but that mix is fantastic.

if we're going to reminisce on ca-2000 2-step comps, this is the one the i basically wore the grooves out of:

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Matt-Jam-Lamont-Presents-The-Jam-Experience/release/173880

E1D - It's A Lot! The UKG Sessions, Vol 5

and what do you know, it's great

New one from Royal T & Roska

http://soundcloud.com/roskaroskaroska/royal-t-ft-roska-work-your

Sounds pretty wicked. Tough garage vibes with added hoovers.

Oh that's amazing.

Indeed!

wow

who is mike delinquent? does ukg recycle more tunes than chicago or fewer?

also i thought roska's tag line was "roska roska roska roska" not "roska roska roska" as in his soundcloud link?

so, gott ist tot. what to do. one one hand, while away the evenings arguing about orbital with southall, on the other...

on the assumption that my subsconscious whims are and always have been an underground river of otm:

let's lay all the notes out. where was q going before his untimely death? the house in house & garage, full circle ouroboros. maturation of bass? the medlar remix of disclosure. disclosure themselves. mk mix of storm queen. jamie jones vs azari big at the tail end of funky. bashmore topping the urban and scene charts with 'au seve'. garage scene raving to annie mac. something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlvRKqbET2o

something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmQSCpJSIaY

DEFINITELY something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRXg6F4V7z0

huxley. hot creations. nick hannam. hot creations and nick hannam. the jackin lot - cheap n cheerful boshers AND proper house-trained operators fluent in todays clubbing, not the late, crippled baby steps house deejaying that permeated and set off london funky. hannah wants, maya jane coles , what the diff? the garage scene has never been closer to house than it has been now. is it one sided? is it mutual? if they didnt meet halfway where did they meet? murky, got a bass to it. real actual bass. 'hialeah house party' is grimy as hell. vox samples - wiseguys or brandy or fonda rae or gotye or allure it doesnt matter don't you see

never been closer *since inception, obv

Waiting until I go to bed and dream tonight in order properly to decode the above but in the meantime I can say with certainty that "Jagged Edge", "Must Be You" and "Bassline Soldiers" are all straight fire beautiful tunes. PROPER BUBBLERS.

And get at stuff I was talking about above, the idea of bubbliness as something that can't be reduced to an objective sub-style - i mean these are all "just" house tunes yet still so fidgety and effervescent (and yet ominous). Really difficult to pin down exactly how that tightrope is trod, and what are the poles it's stretched between.

Though here's something: all this stuff can sound, if you squint, a bit like... Nu Groove?

no doubt. konders, joey negro, and in partic kenny dope was another plate i had spinning at the back of my mind, the hip hop house but not hiphouse approach behind hot creations et al. made this little pile of sampley ones but then you can stretch it out into the classic breaks and boogie samples

Wildkats - Perpetrating (Original Mix)
Adam Port - Someone To Love (Original Mix)
Bubba - Dance With Me (Original Mix)
Claptone - Cream (Original Mix)
NTFO & Rhadow - Don't Stop (Original Mix)
Robosonic - Worst Love
Jay Lumen - As One (Original Mix)

Yeah I was listening to Konders tonight which is what made me think it.

and like, plug those into the jackin refixes of 'cream', busta, wiseguys, fatboy slim, missy...

vox samples - wiseguys or brandy or fonda rae or gotye or allure it doesnt matter don't you see (emphasis mine)

I think this is a really important point.

Like in the jackin' house thread Lex was complaining about "You Want Me" using a Shola Ama tune as if it was part of the same modish R&B vocal sample trend as Blawan or whatevs, and it's like, no, they really don't care where it comes from, that's the difference.

how about further. bashmore into jessie ware. the way ware never convinces but is affecting on the basis of not convincing. is she a replicant? 88-96 simulation. boogie nu-groove neo-noir repertory music for offworld colonies

i.

yeah i was thinking about that with ware

90s teen tastemakers but also but 90s proto-thirtysomethings recognising a familiar port in a baffling storm (ware big on 6music), plus pious mirage of integrity for the adele crowd, plus the endless pointless gleaming simulacra of uk bass music's koolhaasian junkspace

sorted guvnor

- r|t|c, Saturday, 9 June 2012 14:33 (2 months ago) Bookmark

ii.

Tyrell: If we gift them the past we create a cushion or pillow for their emotions and consequently we can control them better.

Deckard: Memories. You're talking about memories.

LOL

Keep going

90s crit for 90s retro!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9eWTi_kVxo

anthem?

allow me to be the first to notice how mutabaruka (on konders 'the poem') sounds exactly like wiley pretending to be his mum

and subsequently to extract great cosmic meaning from that obv

idgi

this stuff sounds more like sydenham / ferrer than any of the stuff you guys are mentioning

we went through this shit a couple years ago, no?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lfa2yAgtXY

if there's ever a dance meme that makes me want to vomit its BACK TO BASICS

we gonna have another 50 posts of you not knowing what planet you're on doggie?

stfu and actually listen to whats being discussed for a change

i listened to monty luke but i really have better things to be doing than being LOCKED ON to BBC1

also stuf and actually discuss what's being discussed

like you're never going to be mark s jr dance edition if you don't have the patience for anything other than cryptic references for "the bubbling crew"

but hey if this is NO GURLS ALLOWED DANCE THREAD i'll just *flounce off*

i'm sorry if i'm being rude but if there's a worse look than my "idgi" it's your "fuck off then if you don't get it"

you are talking. about music. you havent. listened to. it is literally as simple as that. what the fuck attention do you think you're owed exactly?

an explanation?

anyway i'm talking about monty luke, how about that?

like i listened to the youtube you posted and it sounded more like orbitalife than bobby konders. so you owe me nothing but you're "music you haven't listened to" line is NOT as literally simple as that.

anyway what the fuck do you think i owe you? there's a suggest ban button you can use OH NO THERE AIN'T!

try a killfile maybe?

like congrats rob, you're the realest ukg dude alive, we should start calling you BRITCOCK

to bring things back to civility though, what exactly IS the difference between monty luke and orbitalife i'm not getting, or is monty luke illustrating a side point that's not really your point?

The Monty Luke tune is probably the one that sounds least like Nu Groove, though I was really thinking more of the Burrells than Konders when I made that comment, it was just listening to Konders that sparked the connection.

Though really I'm not sure how much turns on this dispute given 2007 post-minimal deepness was basically a Konders jack off sesh in any event.

The basic difference between 2007/2008 Euro and 2012 UKG in their reappropriations of house is precisely the deepness vs bubbliness divide I was discussing upthread. You've already said you're on the deepness side of that divide so it's hardly surprising you'd be underwhelmed.

Like "Orbitalife" would never get play by DJ Q and while I don't blame people for not getting that I think if you don't get it then you don't get it, i.e. the logic behind the music he plays. It's a distinction that is both subtle* and important.

* not in the sense of being minor or pedantic, but in terms of operating along an axis or line of division that doesn't accord with how most dance stans conceive of such things.

See also jimi on Disclosure.

eh

i guess i'm not tall enough for this fairground ride

no it's more like you're going up to the fairground ride getting butthurt it won't sell you a leg of lamb

i mentioned like twenty tunes before that monty luke (tangentially remarked on in context and really only jokily cos of the subject) that "you had better things to do than listen to" before turning up to demand some attention - you can't have been any more disrespectful here so don't make me laugh bleating about civility

vahid TBC i'm not having a go at you, more saying that possibly there are legitimate differences in aesthetic approach at work.

Anyone approaching this stuff from a pro-deepness angle is going to be disappointed.

no i know, this is issue is clearly more subtle than what you could figure out from a Monty Luke YouTube

rtc's most recent youtubes even considered all together probably overstate the role of bouncy house in this interzone I think (I assume for the purpose of teasing out that strand)?

I mean Q is typically housier than you'd expect from (say) his FACT mix, but this stuff is all intermingled with 2-step and grime and etc.

And the housey tunes sound different in that context than they do in another context - say, a Hot Creations DJ mix.

This goes back as well to what I was saying about the difference between normal eclecticism and the very specific kind of "golden thread" eclecticism which Q has (he's not unique in this regard - perhaps more the inverse of say a Moodymann).

You know what's really good? The Moda Black comp that features Celsius' "Must Be You" - more on a straight Hot Creations tip by and large but OMG at Hot SInce 82's "Knee Deep In Louise" and Lukas' "Best in Show".