the totally insane true story behind the 1970s film and book Sybil

I just get such a weird feeling from this new age of 12 year olds being able to proclaim themselves to be foxes or otherkins or vampires or other radical identity positions and be backed up on it by an online framework of defenders that does not only consist of other kids... I mean, when I was a kid, you could play RPGs as much as possible or read SFF novels all the time or fill notebooks with characters and worlds and lyrics etc but there was NO OPTION WHATSOEVER of choosing to live as a fantasy creature, and I can't help but feel like that limitation was a good thing... this shit really scares me sometimes...

Maybe you should start a campaign to deprogram otherkin.

and you may make it differently if you were a spatula.

"one day I just... flipped out"

― Dunn O)))))))) (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:08 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fwiw, I looked for the 'like' button on this post.

got a cool ashtar command book. that is one crazy alien-channeling cult. love the crude drawings of various aliens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtar_%28extraterrestrial_being%29#Ashtar_Command

you need to give them your email address to get into the ashtar website:

http://www.ashtarcommandcrew.net/

If spatula dude is not trolling I will eat my hat. That I identify as a core headmate. I am hatkin.

― emil.y, Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:13 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

On the "headmates" tag, somebody posted a screen shot of another Tumblr with the intent of mocking it, and in the screenshot, a person who has a vampire otherkin headmate talked about how the headmate gets triggered when people talk about pooping because vampires don't eat and so don't have buttholes, and in the screen shot, somebody responded to that comment very seriously, apologizing for the ablism that the buttholeless vampire headmate has to endure. I would think that was trolling because come on but then somebody else was mocking it so I just don't know.

i think that's part of the rabbit hole experience of the whole thing, that there's this weird point at which you can't tell who's trolling and who's for real ('real')

vs: who has genuine mpd and who has just convinced themselves they have

I think this is why I find it so horrible. These people are using the language that oppressed peoples have developed to express or protect themselves, and they roll around in their little fantasy worlds being special little snowflakes, a) ruining words for people, and b) actually damaging other people who get sucked in.

ruining words for people

http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/transfat

http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/transable would be a better example. though now i check the first page of the first one is entirely people making fun and the first page of the second is about fifty-fifty people making fun and people genuinely angry and confused.

vs: who has genuine mpd and who has just convinced themselves they have

― thomp, Tuesday, July 31, 2012 12:46 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

1/999,999

thx for all the mind control links, I like how they all start with a warning not to read them unless you have been trained to resist mind control techniques

I think this is why I find it so horrible. These people are using the language that oppressed peoples have developed to express or protect themselves, and they roll around in their little fantasy worlds being special little snowflakes, a) ruining words for people, and b) actually damaging other people who get sucked in.

I agree. The transethnic people are particularly gross to me -- something about 14 yr old white kids protesting that they identify as Japanese or African American rubs me the wrong way.

I checked Satan's Silence out from the library. Thanks, thread!

I wonder if there are special seminars to teach therapists how to deal with these sorts of kids, whose parents (I would imagine) view the behavior (if they know about it) as troublesome. I should ask my therapist friends if this is a big thing in the field o que.

now I'm having a repressed memory surface... a memory of a TV movie from the late 70s/early 80s about a guy w/ MPD. can't remember who played the lead, but he was fairly well-known at the time. bill bixby? argh help me ilx I am suffering

the only Bill Bixby TV movie I can remember is the one where he plays a dead dude waiting around in a bathhouse aka purgatory

while directing "Blossom."

I found it! the five of me, starring david birney and dee wallace. 3 guesses who mr birney married irl...

http://mytvlog.blogspot.com/2012/05/five-of-me-1981-tvm.html

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/05/12/arts/tv-five-of-me-multiple-personalities.html

neat factoid

"THE FIVE OF ME," tonight's movie on CBS-TV at 9 o'clock, is the story of a multiple personality whose true case history, we are informed at the outset, spanned 37 years. The production has several substantial ingredients - imaginative direction by Paul Wendkos; a carefully constructed script by Lawrence B. Marcus, who wrote the screenplay of the "The Stunt Man," and, especially, a strong performance by David Birney in the lead role.

Dee Wallace!

omg somebody on ebay is selling promo photos from the five of me, this is some mighty arcane memorabilia

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/the_five_of_me.jpg

From the review:

Multiple-personality cases are not uncommon. ''Sybil'' and ''The Three Faces of Eve'' are mentioned here in passing. And there is no reason to doubt the details of Mr. Hawksworth's story. But the fact that his problem existed for years without proper diagnosis defies belief. His record is crammed with violent incidents, from causing a car crash that killed the man he saved in Korea to viciously attacking his pregnant wife - who was, incidentally, his dead friend's fiancee - to the homicide trial that finally results in his getting proper help.

Uh...sounds like a sociopath who is using mpd to excuse his violent behavior.

Again, Billy Milligan.

all these MPD roles just make me think...

ACTING!

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MPD reviews of movies would be pretty funny.

"I hated it! ... but *I* loved it!"

I cannot believe you cynics are questioning the veracity of a TV movie from 1981 starring mr meredith baxter birney

just baxter now

idk this may be a little left field of the current discussion, but it's got some similar strains to MPD (as deliberately controlled through mind-control) / SRA / recovered memory. here's a link to a .pdf of memoir written by a woman who believed the CIA turned her into a mind controlled sex slave under MK ULTRA / Project Monarch.

http://shatteringdenial.com/books/taylor_thanks_for_the_memories.pdf

a quick glance at the table of contents will give you an idea of where it goes from there, but that's just the start

c'mon elmo that was already posted please keep up

the burning question right now is where can I buy a bootleg copy of the five of me for $6.20 oh wait

http://www.twistedanger.net/movies/comedy-humour_c29/dvd-five-of-me-the-paul-wendkos-1981_p1999/

have we discussed the dolphin sex, then? i haven't had a chance to read everything itt!

http://www.dolphins.spirita.net/images/dolphin2.gif

This article was really interesting:

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/05/09/nyregion/multiple-personality-cases-perplex-legal-system.html?ref=multiplepersonalities

I was trying to find more information on Hawksworth but there doesn't look like there is anything available outside of the book, which makes me think it's either a pseudonym or completely made up.

i revived a thread to talk about the tumblr headmates thing but no one was biting

― thomp, Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:55 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbh I was very interested in your thread but then you got yelled at and I was afraid it was going to be some huge clusterfuck so backed away

holy cow I just read the link about "transablism" and just learned about "transethnic" and for all that I'm willing to give a pass to a kid who thinks he's got a raccoon, the Third Doctor, and River Tam living in his head, if somebody told me they identified as "transabled" or "transethnic" I might very well respond with violence.

On the "headmates" tag, somebody posted a screen shot of another Tumblr with the intent of mocking it, and in the screenshot, a person who has a vampire otherkin headmate talked about how the headmate gets triggered when people talk about pooping because vampires don't eat and so don't have buttholes, and in the screen shot, somebody responded to that comment very seriously, apologizing for the ablism that the buttholeless vampire headmate has to endure. I would think that was trolling because come on but then somebody else was mocking it so I just don't know.

― ms. cookie (carl agatha), Tuesday, July 31, 2012 12:42 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

holy shit

OMG is transfat where somebody is not fat but, like identifies as fat? Get the fuuuuuck out of my face with that shit.

http://khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.tumblr.com/post/27668397685/i-cant-even-i-cant-what-is-this-god

Here it is!

(if this is getting inappropriately far afield from the topic, I will stop! As soon as I read more of Sybil Exposed I will be back on topic.)

X-post

Ha can I be transthin then

I'm a transbillionare give me a fucking private jet if you respect my right to self-identify you 99% fuckers.

I'm a transdoctor I have no medical training but I know I'm a doctor so let me operate on your brain.

I guess walk-ins are another kind of DID-ish thing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walk-in
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31aFleSQA9L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

I guess for these folks you can kick out a headmate and the headmate will go live in somebody else's head. Probably as good an argument as any to avoid them.

I've seen the movie but not read the book. Didn't they just discover she made it all up or it was implanted or something? The whole MPD/SRA phenomenon is completely fascinating to me.

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, July 30, 2012 1:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

ENBB (and others), Ian Hacking's Rewriting the Soul is an excellent book on the social and historical development of MPD constructs, treatment and diagnosis, as well as an examination of its philosophical status, and contains a close historical reading of the period where a lot of the building blocks for current MPD understanding were put in place. Sybil features fairly heavily. (He also wrote an excellent book on transient mental states called Mad Travellers about wandering fugue states among Europeans in the 19th century, used to analyse the meaning and notions of syndromes like autism. As recommended by Plasmon in this thread.

Thank you, Fizzles.

(I just wanted to use the name "Fizzles" in a sentence)

oh fantastic, that sounds exactly like what i need. i will get around to reading it in six months and start my no-pointing-and-laughing thread on the subject, i think

those who want to keep tabs on the Satanic/CIA/Illuminati/Monarch mind-control conspiracy should check out vigilentcitizen.com.
and yes, the joker from Aurora is top headline. so obv a patsy.

this is another good read - http://www.emhdf.com/Monarch-mind-control.pdf

vigilantcitizen.com (srry typo)