the totally insane true story behind the 1970s film and book Sybil

wait, what?

Wait, where did you get Satan's Silence for Kindle? Amazon says it's not even available on Kindle.

I'm fascinated by the Tumblr Headmates. I feel a legitimate internal conflict between my general tendency toward taking people at their word when they are talking about their own mental health and personal identities, and thinking it's mostly just a bunch of kids using it as a coping strategy for being bullied at school. Like, "Nobody will eat lunch with me... it is because I AM A WOLF!!! HOOOOOWWWLLLLLL!!!!!"

And graham crackers!

created to suppress the sexual urges of young girls iirc

And boys. All the sexual urges. But while jerking it was bad news for boys, it was a one way ticket to dying on the streets as a filthy whore and going straight to hell for girls.

i searched for debbie nathan on my kindle

Nobody will eat lunch with me... it is because I AM A WOLF!

dying

i revived a thread to talk about the tumblr headmates thing but no one was biting

My name is Paul Allen, and I am an otherkin. I am 22 years old, and I live in Canada. I recently discovered what an otherkin was, and I was so thankful to find people like me on Tumblr, it has helped me realize exactly what it is about me that made me feel so different from other people.

I have a few headmates, but the one that I am identifies as a spatula. This is going to be a serious blog about me going through life as a someone who identifies as a spatula. I hope I can make a few friends along the way as well :D

wow

a spatula

i don't really know what to say

thanks tumblr

that guy is so earnest about the fact he's not trolling i suspect he is trolling. i don't know. do i want to start a 'crazy people on tumblr' thread

i dunno. i feel kinda bad about the idea but it's your decision to make, and you may make it differently if you were a spatula.

yeah i should probably think about it, i feel like there are genuinely interesting things about it beyond 'look at this train wreck', i don't really know how to foster that discussion though

it's just another side to the story, that's the only reason i brought it up at all. generally i don't think it's agl to point and laugh at people.

I also loved Go Ask Alice as a kid. I don't know which I loved more -- Go Ask Alice, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, or Alice (the tv show). They're all v entertaining, all of the Alices.

― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 30 July 2012 23:27 (Yesterday) Permalink

you forgot alice, sweet alice

oh yeah! i knew there was another one!

and you may make it differently if you were a spatula.

"one day I just... flipped out"

xp Yeah, exactly. Because as soon as I start thinking about the genuinely interesting aspect of it, somebody self-identifies as a spatula.

That's the other problem, is that half the time I think people are just trolling and I honestly can't tell the difference sometimes.

I think maybe one interesting distinction between the headmates crew and Sybil & Friends is that the headmates generally deny an abusive past and claim that their DID or MPD is just a natural state of being, not one caused by any trauma.

If spatula dude is not trolling I will eat my hat. That I identify as a core headmate. I am hatkin.

if you point at the hat, and if it is very spiritual, i will know you are who you say you are

XD

Or actually:

c|:D

I just get such a weird feeling from this new age of 12 year olds being able to proclaim themselves to be foxes or otherkins or vampires or other radical identity positions and be backed up on it by an online framework of defenders that does not only consist of other kids... I mean, when I was a kid, you could play RPGs as much as possible or read SFF novels all the time or fill notebooks with characters and worlds and lyrics etc but there was NO OPTION WHATSOEVER of choosing to live as a fantasy creature, and I can't help but feel like that limitation was a good thing... this shit really scares me sometimes...

Maybe you should start a campaign to deprogram otherkin.

and you may make it differently if you were a spatula.

"one day I just... flipped out"

― Dunn O)))))))) (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:08 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fwiw, I looked for the 'like' button on this post.

got a cool ashtar command book. that is one crazy alien-channeling cult. love the crude drawings of various aliens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtar_%28extraterrestrial_being%29#Ashtar_Command

you need to give them your email address to get into the ashtar website:

http://www.ashtarcommandcrew.net/

If spatula dude is not trolling I will eat my hat. That I identify as a core headmate. I am hatkin.

― emil.y, Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:13 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

On the "headmates" tag, somebody posted a screen shot of another Tumblr with the intent of mocking it, and in the screenshot, a person who has a vampire otherkin headmate talked about how the headmate gets triggered when people talk about pooping because vampires don't eat and so don't have buttholes, and in the screen shot, somebody responded to that comment very seriously, apologizing for the ablism that the buttholeless vampire headmate has to endure. I would think that was trolling because come on but then somebody else was mocking it so I just don't know.

i think that's part of the rabbit hole experience of the whole thing, that there's this weird point at which you can't tell who's trolling and who's for real ('real')

vs: who has genuine mpd and who has just convinced themselves they have

I think this is why I find it so horrible. These people are using the language that oppressed peoples have developed to express or protect themselves, and they roll around in their little fantasy worlds being special little snowflakes, a) ruining words for people, and b) actually damaging other people who get sucked in.

ruining words for people

http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/transfat

http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/transable would be a better example. though now i check the first page of the first one is entirely people making fun and the first page of the second is about fifty-fifty people making fun and people genuinely angry and confused.

vs: who has genuine mpd and who has just convinced themselves they have

― thomp, Tuesday, July 31, 2012 12:46 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

1/999,999

thx for all the mind control links, I like how they all start with a warning not to read them unless you have been trained to resist mind control techniques

I think this is why I find it so horrible. These people are using the language that oppressed peoples have developed to express or protect themselves, and they roll around in their little fantasy worlds being special little snowflakes, a) ruining words for people, and b) actually damaging other people who get sucked in.

I agree. The transethnic people are particularly gross to me -- something about 14 yr old white kids protesting that they identify as Japanese or African American rubs me the wrong way.

I checked Satan's Silence out from the library. Thanks, thread!

I wonder if there are special seminars to teach therapists how to deal with these sorts of kids, whose parents (I would imagine) view the behavior (if they know about it) as troublesome. I should ask my therapist friends if this is a big thing in the field o que.

now I'm having a repressed memory surface... a memory of a TV movie from the late 70s/early 80s about a guy w/ MPD. can't remember who played the lead, but he was fairly well-known at the time. bill bixby? argh help me ilx I am suffering

the only Bill Bixby TV movie I can remember is the one where he plays a dead dude waiting around in a bathhouse aka purgatory

while directing "Blossom."

I found it! the five of me, starring david birney and dee wallace. 3 guesses who mr birney married irl...

http://mytvlog.blogspot.com/2012/05/five-of-me-1981-tvm.html

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/05/12/arts/tv-five-of-me-multiple-personalities.html

neat factoid

"THE FIVE OF ME," tonight's movie on CBS-TV at 9 o'clock, is the story of a multiple personality whose true case history, we are informed at the outset, spanned 37 years. The production has several substantial ingredients - imaginative direction by Paul Wendkos; a carefully constructed script by Lawrence B. Marcus, who wrote the screenplay of the "The Stunt Man," and, especially, a strong performance by David Birney in the lead role.

Dee Wallace!

omg somebody on ebay is selling promo photos from the five of me, this is some mighty arcane memorabilia

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/the_five_of_me.jpg

From the review:

Multiple-personality cases are not uncommon. ''Sybil'' and ''The Three Faces of Eve'' are mentioned here in passing. And there is no reason to doubt the details of Mr. Hawksworth's story. But the fact that his problem existed for years without proper diagnosis defies belief. His record is crammed with violent incidents, from causing a car crash that killed the man he saved in Korea to viciously attacking his pregnant wife - who was, incidentally, his dead friend's fiancee - to the homicide trial that finally results in his getting proper help.

Uh...sounds like a sociopath who is using mpd to excuse his violent behavior.

Again, Billy Milligan.

all these MPD roles just make me think...

ACTING!

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The five of me December 7, 2008
By Eileen Delk
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This movie is so great it's one the no it's the first drama movie that I saw that I have never forgotten. I would love to have it in my collections

David Birney is a wonderful actor and this is my favorite movie from him of all times. please can you find a copy so I can enjoy it any time my son would like to see this for I have spoke on this movie alot of times.

please contact me by email as soon as possiable thank you.
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MPD reviews of movies would be pretty funny.

"I hated it! ... but *I* loved it!"

I cannot believe you cynics are questioning the veracity of a TV movie from 1981 starring mr meredith baxter birney