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some of my favorites already posted. upsetters - lizard stick another good one, sounds like some kind-of alien reggae

Spectrum, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:21 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKQt6TnkJkc

Spectrum, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link

prob should mention the Serge Gainsbourg's "Aux Armes Et Caetera" here huh

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

holy shit at this Vulcans album mentioned in the initial post btw

giallo pudding pops (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

Granny Danger - I'm a big fan of that Serge dub album.

What about '60s ska and rocksteady? I find a lot of Desmond Dekker's stuff extraordinary simply because of the phrasing and cadence he uses. Really imaginative structures that twist and turn like the human consciousness...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaN2zlSc1yU

This is also on the Nascente comp and I love it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tkajISweIU

Not sure if they belong on here, but I find them extraordinary.

Quickly, take hold of my hand, asshole! (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 08:31 (eleven years ago) link

Geoffrey Chung, UFO

^ more early use of synths

― Collectible Spoons of the 3rd Reich (Tom D.), Wednesday, April 7, 2010 6:22 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this track is tremendous

mizzell, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

Just realised the desmond dekker track I posted earlier is a new version with hardly any of the original's charm.

Here's the versh I was talking about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPkfyzRI6S8

Quickly, take hold of my hand, asshole! (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

That's fantastic, dl - and with a lot of charm, as you say!

Also liked the UFO track - esp cos it uses that great Breakfast in Bed rhythm as a v effective ground.

Fizzles, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-BwfPydP4

queequeg (peter grasswich), Friday, 3 August 2012 05:14 (eleven years ago) link

Finding myself a little bored by searching out 'seminal' roots reggae, only to find it 80% of the time adhering to the same overall sound with minor variations (I love that sound, but.....), I'm on the prowl for more singular examples of reggae in the roots era, tracks that are strikingly different from the sonic norm, or suggest some unexplored furrow of 70s/early 80s Jamaican music.

the assumption is always that there *is* some unexplored furrow out there, and not just another rut

the late great, Friday, 3 August 2012 05:19 (eleven years ago) link

Hmmm. I'd argue that some of this stuff isn't too "extraordinary," but there you go. I would suggest (though it's out-of-print) the excellent double CD on Trojan of Roy Shirley recordings called "Music Is The Key." He performed what was arguably the first rocksteady song, "Hold Them," produced by Joe Gibbs, and to some extent his only well-known song. But Shirley had an extraordinarily odd, quivery voice and was probably about ten years before his time (I shudder to think of what marvels Black Ark-era Lee Perry and him would have produced.) Check out this incredible bit of live footage (music starts at about 1:14, but the whole thing's cool):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNDXanDd8fg

The small local crowd is going nuts, and Shirley puts on a great performance. I especially love his song "My Bride," which is too odd to describe. Can't find it on YouTube, but it's on the Trojan compilation of his stuff.

Doctor Alimantado is pretty cool too. Famously championed by Johnny Rotten and quoted by the Clash ("like the doctor who was born for a purpose" in "Rudie Can't Fail"), Alimantado sang and toasted and squealed and most of it was pretty great. His classic is "Best Dressed Chicken In Town," a weird deejay tune in a dub style:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu97ctxg8hk

But I also like the straight forward roots of "Born For A Purpose," which is probably his most famous tune - a more frenetic and dubby version of something like a GG Alvin-produced Gregory Isaacs track, it defies a lot of the convention of its time by being very metronomic and still kind of loony:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6pIONWxTbs&feature=related

George Faith's "To Be A Lover" album is a classic Black Ark production, but differs from others of the era (Congos, Jolly Brothers, Junior Murvin) in being highly indebted to southern soul (he covers William Bell and Lee Dorsey, among others) but not really sounding anything like it. Pretty widely available too, which is a plus. Check out the title track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzYVfzUNGec

Joe Gibbs' mid-70s dub stuff really stood out for its intense rhythms (here, I think is one of Adrian Sherwood's big influences), weird sound effects and general grooviness. Any of the four volumes of "African Dub Almighty" are great, but the third is the ultimate one, and the Pressure Sounds "No Bones For Dogs" release is chock full of great stuff.

here's a great track from the third "African Dub Almighty" album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2rBi_L4NKc

There's a period of Mikey Dread's career where he was the leading *original* roots producer, which is probably best heard on "World War III" or "Beyond World War III," which are more or less the same album. One of them is still easy to get. Here's the title track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ3XAobAHVw

crustaceanrebel, Friday, 3 August 2012 06:14 (eleven years ago) link

speaking of mikey dread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJxB2xIAN28

the late great, Friday, 3 August 2012 06:30 (eleven years ago) link

I've been listening to this one all night. Might just fit here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uKjNLMKpyA

Moka, Friday, 3 August 2012 07:53 (eleven years ago) link

And its dub but Scientist meets the Space Invaders is in line with op.

Moka, Friday, 3 August 2012 07:55 (eleven years ago) link

that Roy Shirley clip upthread is great

second the Best Dressed Chicken in Town rec, that album is amazing

giallo pudding pops (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 3 August 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

So I mentioned the Bass Culture comps on Nascente upthread and I was so taken by them I wrote this gushing review on the Quietus http://thequietus.com/articles/09951-bass-culture-compilation-review

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Thursday, 6 September 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link

MAybe not 'extraordinary' but extraordinarily great. Just played this 4 times in a row.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvCT7PY4KrU

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Thursday, 13 September 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

moka, was going to post "golden hen", you beat me to it....

m0stlyClean, Friday, 14 September 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link

Lots of Keith Hudson is extraordinary but I'm No Fool came on random today and it made me think of this thread.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 14 September 2012 01:33 (eleven years ago) link

i don't even understand this thread but here's a couple tracks i've always felt were on their own particular vibe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl8922mn6X8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wwj7T2hEv4

the late great, Friday, 14 September 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

cool japanese/jamaican collabo. this track has it all: spacey vocals, some funkish gtr action, a great trombone solo, even a santanesque interlude!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTUfVUfe7NQ

cock chirea, Friday, 14 September 2012 02:37 (eleven years ago) link

a trombone solo?

the late great, Friday, 14 September 2012 03:05 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, 2:39 to 3:25. that's a trombone.

cock chirea, Friday, 14 September 2012 03:25 (eleven years ago) link

sweet, haven;t heard a dope trombone solo since the first groove armada album

the late great, Friday, 14 September 2012 03:33 (eleven years ago) link

if you like jamaican music and trombones this is essential:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41VYK6JDG4L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 14 September 2012 04:31 (eleven years ago) link

This thread should just be about absolutely amazing reggae tracks by now.

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Friday, 14 September 2012 10:27 (eleven years ago) link

Since the early 1990s Twinkle Brothers have been regularly collaborating with the Polish band Trebunie-Tutki in which they fuse reggae and traditional music from the Tatra Mountains.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKhC_0KSZks

just listen to the atmosphere and textures in this track. keith hudson was a master.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 20 September 2012 03:37 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i am listening to this album tonight, it is extraordinary

the late great, Thursday, 20 September 2012 06:02 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm8xGgMh4ro

heeeeeeeeaaaaaaaavvvvvvvvvyyyyyyyyyyy

Crackle Box, Thursday, 20 September 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link

think i could listen to nothing but lee perry and k hudson productions rest of my life and be content

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

thx for the heads up on that Keith Hudson track, never heard that before

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

that whole album (Rasta Communication) is excellent. did any other reggae producer use lap steel guitar before that?

rob, Thursday, 20 September 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

chinna smith used it on occasion. RC was '78, right? don't know if i've heard anything w/Chinna playing steel lap prior to that tho.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

chinna is credited on RC, so I'm guessing that's actually him on the steel lap?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

must have been

the late great, Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

seven months pass...

that Vulcans album is so cool

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 17 May 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link

four weeks pass...

seeing dog latin mention Aisha's wonderful Creator, reminded me of this song, which Aisha covers, tho I love the Faybiene Miranda original:

http://youtube/-phUA8P1wuw

was wondering if anyone knew the specifics of why it was banned. It mentions politicians and people heeding the call, but that's p small beer surely.

that mournful brass one of my favourite sounds in reggae - and I realise this is very well known, but it is extraordinary:

http://youtube/csZ-Vo4GwX4

(the ken boothe/i roy black, gold and green/red, gold and green track feels like the platonic ideal of this sound).

also - don't know enough to know whether its spurious to associate that sound with a strand of heavily politicised reggae of the 1970s (the songs here 75, 75, 72 respectively) but it seems right.

Fizzles, Saturday, 15 June 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link

f'ing youtube, swear the embedding rules rotate on a daily basis.

Fizzles, Saturday, 15 June 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link

I haven't seen it mentioned here yet, but dub-lovers should try and source the Scientist album "The Best Album In The World." It really is one of the greatest dub albums, and for a genre that can rely upon similar sounds a lot of the time, it's got a really special vibe.

issiahtwofour, Saturday, 15 June 2013 17:47 (ten years ago) link

doesn't sound like it was too unusual an occurrence.

Q: OK, the stations didn't have any obligation to explain to you why they banned your song, the authorities just banned whatever for whatever reason or purpose. But did you hear any explanation somewhere afterwards why they banned this tune specifically?

A: Sure. Oh, I heard that it was considered like sort of an outcry or call for people to resist or to sort of rise up against the government, which I thought was strange because of PNP at the time.

Q: Yeah, Manley.

A: And I was like... just really feeling them (laughs)! So I didn't know why they would've considered this... I mean, it was clear it was about Marcus Garvey. But I guess it was also clear that it was speaking directly to the hearts of the people. Because at the same time I think three tunes at that time that had been banned from not only radio airplay but supposedly sound systems wasn't supposed to be playing it either on the streets, it was 'War' (The Wailers) and 'Discrimination' by Ras Karbi.

(xpost. to myself. classy.)

will see if I can check out that album tho.

Fizzles, Saturday, 15 June 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

sometimes i get to the stage where i think i've heard most of the best reggae stuff and then something amazing comes my way, quite by accident

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31sbAMcIHSU

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 10:29 (nine years ago) link

ten months pass...

Christmas has me feeling generous:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDhRVljOQKc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOQ3Fd7v80I

chrisulloa, Thursday, 24 December 2015 19:29 (eight years ago) link

Christmas a come - Eek a Mouse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsBBhSSSjqA

mom, Thursday, 24 December 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

can anyone recommend some spooky roots and dub? I don't mean stuff like 'Scientist rids the world...' which is a great album of course, but is a bit cartoonish and horror-show. I kind of just want something with a genuinely spooky vibe.

canoon fooder (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 16:34 (eight years ago) link

Also p sure one of those Marley records is some 21st century compilation, but when I catch myself even starting to sneer at such behaviour I quicly realise it's me who's being the asshole

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link

But also reggae sleeves can be absolutely majestic, these are not they. I could understand wanting to frame, say, Dread In A Babylon.

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link

fwiw there's a jamaican flag on the wall in another room. maybe they don't even own a record player. who cares.

Indexed, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

honestly sneering on the internet at ppl who choose
to advertise their terrible taste (whether in interior design or reggae albums) is pretty low in the hierarchy of my asshole-ish behaviors and one i’m happy to continue indulging in

besides imo if you spend 2.5M to gussy up a shoebox w modernist glass, metal siding and wood paneling and then stick a bunch of thrift store reggae records - framed, at that! - in frames on the wall, you’re the asshole. although, in their defense, i did spy a soul jazz comp, plus i guess the thrift store reggae finds match the thrift store furniture

the late great, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link

or maybe i’m the asshole for not editing my posts better, who knows?

the late great, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

records in frames just looks weird and stupid to me, maybe if they were signed or something? who cares indeed

lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

idgaf about taste i sneer at people for being rich bourgeois scumbags.

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

anyway bummer revive

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 20:17 (one year ago) link

Where are you finding reggae in a thrift shop? All I can find is Al Hirt all over the damn place.

Cow_Art, Thursday, 13 October 2022 01:54 (one year ago) link

That Lacksley Castell album is great.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 13 October 2022 07:46 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YJB1g57bTk

Lee 'Scratch' Perry - not super extraordinary by Scratch's standards but could be the only reggae tune that has a sneeze in it

paolo, Thursday, 13 October 2022 07:56 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIq23AiLlJs

From the same album, this one is extraordinary because it could be the only reggae tune that has the word 'clammy' in the lyrics. Unless I'm mishearing the chorus. Which is possible

paolo, Thursday, 13 October 2022 07:58 (one year ago) link

YouTube recommended me some 'non-metal albums for metalheads' vid for some reason and Return of the Super Ape was in the thumbnail

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:34 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

roy smith - “bondage”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGJdgVnx0dE

brimstead, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 00:18 (nine months ago) link

That is some extraordinary reggae.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 11:29 (nine months ago) link

Yeah that's great!

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Thursday, 20 July 2023 09:52 (eight months ago) link

The guitar part in Skinhead Moonstomp which seems to be trying to experiment with slide in a minimal way and may sound more fitting in a spacerock or noise lp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVTI7mR4GJI

I heard it on a compilation set a couple of weeks ago and it stood out at the time and I've wondered if there was a widely known backstory to it since. seems a bit avant or cod avant for a band of the ilk to be playing at the time. Sounds like the connecting bits in a wilder exploration by somebody like Hendrix or similar from the more psychedelic scene around the time it was recorded in 1970

Stevo, Thursday, 20 July 2023 10:32 (eight months ago) link


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