Radiohead - In Rainbows

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160kbps isn't nearly as bad as you guys are making it out to be.

circa1916, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Has everyone received that notification e-mail? I haven't seen anything since my original order confirmation.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes it is. I really dislike the sound of an mp3 that's encoded at less than 192... it's a pretty big difference.

xpost

Davey D, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I still think that it's a fucking amazingly great thing that Radiohead is doing - it just smacks of cluelessness in their tech dept.

Davey D, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

160 is surprisingly low for a band that is so precious about preserving the integrity of their albums when distributed digitally. Possible reasons:

- server/bandwidth issues which they think aren't worth spending money fixing for how many people will actually care.
- they want to upsell people to the regular CD when it comes out.

caek, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

ugh, who cares. for all we know these songs were specifically mixed and mastered to sound good as 160 kpbs mp3s.

bernard snowy, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

xxpost, yeah, probably. Never attribute to malice, etc.

caek, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

<i>ugh, who cares. for all we know these songs were specifically mixed and mastered to sound good as 160 kpbs mp3s.

-- bernard snowy, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:36 (5 minutes ago) Link</i>

i don't know if this is possible.

but jeez it's not that big of a deal.

still 256 would have been great.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:42 (sixteen years ago) link

It's above itunes quality, and it's pretty obvious (given the site crash last week) that server-wise they need to skimp a bit.

Simon H., Tuesday, 9 October 2007 18:06 (sixteen years ago) link

It's not above iTunes quality. 160k MP3 is about roughly the same audible quality as the 128k AAC they sell on iTunes.

caek, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link

earlier today: Xfm (London) announced "a world radio exclusive" Radiohead album playback at Midday tomorrow, now NME Radio have usurped them with an 11am playback

djmartian, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 18:57 (sixteen years ago) link

the original early-leaked unmastered HAIL TO THE THIEF mp3s sounded better in some cases than the finals.

pisces, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 18:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I only really care about the 160kbps thing because I would have given a buck or two to cover bandwidth and my initial impressions with the assumption that I'll probably end up buying it in another format later to listen to at home. With bleep, or a few other sites, I don't mind paying a bit more since I know I won't really care about buying a physical copy later.

mh, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I just bought the new Band of Horses on wax and it came with a digital download - 160k. Lame. Same story with Of Montreal's "Hissing Fauna" a few months back - except it was 128k. Super lame.

Davey D, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link

GUYS OBVIOUSLY THE ALBUM WAS MEANT TO BE LISTENED TO AT 160KBPS

cutty, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:30 (sixteen years ago) link

lol audiofiles

cutty, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:30 (sixteen years ago) link

(sic)

cutty, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:30 (sixteen years ago) link

audiophiles slam audio files.

Billy Dods, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Same story with Of Montreal's "Hissing Fauna" a few months back - except it was 128k

hissing mp3s amirite

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Final post in the project. Aside from whatever I end up saying about the new one.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link

TS: Audiophiles vs. Audio Files

stephen, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Ever since my CD mania began in earnest in college, I’d always found there were discs I liked to set aside which, I knew, I would love. I’d only heard a song or two, maybe, but it was enough for me to guess that I’d really like the album when I finally gave it a full listen. These became my ‘rainy day’ discs, as I called them — something that would be around when the mood finally struck me, something that didn’t need to be heard right that second, but would be something best appreciated when I felt the impulse.

Ned, this is AWESOME -- I'm finishing up college this year, and I've done the same thing (more or less) for as long as I've been obsessive about music, in general. I'd guess there's *at least* couple hundred CDs (out of about 1000 currently owned) on my shelf that I've never listened to in full, some of which I've owned for years and wouldn't dream of selling, but imagine I'll pull out at the right time to enjoy.

stephen, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link

So am I pretty much the only one still waiting on the second e-mail (besides the original confirmation)? I'm kinda pissed I gave them money for this if they aren't ever going to send my the follow-up e-mails.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:24 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm still waiting too but I'm not worried. Happens as does.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:41 (sixteen years ago) link

audiophiles slam audio files.

funny

hissing mp3s amirite

funnier!

Davey D, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:42 (sixteen years ago) link

ugh i'm so not looking forward to this thread tomorrow. everyone take a day off, ok?

cutty, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Jesus, no kidding!

Davey D, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:43 (sixteen years ago) link

hey, fuck you too, audiofiles was my joke

cutty, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm already lolling at the ratio boosting 320kbps transcodes gullible people will no doubt be downloading tomorrow.

StanM, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link

cutty OTM

Davey D, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe we should have a seperate thread for when it's actually arrived? I'm not even going to download it, I'm waiting till my flatmate does and then I'm going to copy it off him - you can't trick me RADIOHEAD! HWAHWAHWA!

the next grozart, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:49 (sixteen years ago) link

It's not above iTunes quality. 160k MP3 is about roughly the same audible quality as the 128k AAC they sell on iTunes.

I had no idea. I have been avoiding buying stuff on iTunes because I thought that it was low-quality. When filesharing, I prefer to get stuff at 192 or up, but if I can't find it at that bitrate, I'm content to do 160.

jaymc, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:49 (sixteen years ago) link

So am I pretty much the only one still waiting on the second e-mail (besides the original confirmation)? I'm kinda pissed I gave them money for this if they aren't ever going to send my the follow-up e-mails.

It took mine a few hours after the first post about it here- it seems like they're sending them out in batches, not all at once. Perhaps to do with purchase order/priority? In any case, if you haven't gotten yours by the end of today, it might be worth emailing them and doublechecking. They should have your correct contact info if you got the original confirmation. Also be sure and check your spam filter, mine can be pretty finicky about this kind of mass mailout (I use GMail).

Telephone thing, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:55 (sixteen years ago) link

I paid nothing earlier today. I got the original order receipt about three hours later and have heard nothing since. I'm guessing they're kinda busy.

caek, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 23:12 (sixteen years ago) link

I know, let's all phone them and ask them how busy they are.

the next grozart, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link

I hate how the term "morning" is so ambiguous. It could be any time now!

jonathan - stl, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 01:08 (sixteen years ago) link

for anyone who appreciates the prog in radiohead, this mp3 quality / multiple format / musical progression discussion *does* feel a lot like beardy dudes sitting around a fire in the 70s discussing King Crimson.

paulhw, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 01:19 (sixteen years ago) link

i just got an email 'update' at 1 a.m.
IN RAINBOWS UPDATE (Order # WAS4341803)‏

what's that all about?

pisces, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 01:22 (sixteen years ago) link

lol xpost

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 01:28 (sixteen years ago) link

this mp3 quality / multiple format / musical progression discussion *does* feel a lot like beardy dudes sitting around a fire in the 70s discussing King Crimson

Part of the appeal, except now it's the glow of computer screens. Though I suppose the beards are back.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 01:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyway I got my little update mail.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 01:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Okay people calm down, now. We'll get it when we get it. 160 is not going to kill us either, etc.

Bimble, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 02:27 (sixteen years ago) link

seen Control yet, Bimble? ;)

Roz, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 02:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Heheh. Hell, no, dude! It's not scheduled to be here until at least the 19th!

Bimble, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 02:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Although I guess I shouldn't assume you're a dude. :)

Bimble, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 02:37 (sixteen years ago) link

hehe yeah, i'm a girl the last time i checked.

Roz, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 03:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, glad I apologized then! :)

I'm starting to get excited about this Radiohead thing though, in fact, before I saw your post I read my update in my email and thought "ooh this is sexy! We're all downloading from Radiohead at more or less the same bloody time!"

Bimble, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 03:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I know! it's a weird sort of communal experience - usually with widely-anticipated albums, people tend to be more like "oh I'll get this tmr" or "i've got to hear this soon" but suddenly everyone's all "I want to hear this NOW".

Roz, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 03:54 (sixteen years ago) link

viz "beardos discussing prog around the fire"

It's like we're all waiting in line outside Tower Records with our headphones & CD players or something. Old school shit.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 03:57 (sixteen years ago) link

In Rainbows = a new Harry Potter book.

Roz, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 03:57 (sixteen years ago) link


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