the totally insane true story behind the 1970s film and book Sybil

oops, i forgot to include the footnote from the cheney story:
1 My jaw is permanently damaged From Cheney. I have chronic TMJ.

also, in the same book reagan's favorite music is that of Air Supply, and he somehow uses their songs to program the author's various compartmentalized personalities

http://static.everdot.org/ebooks/english/Cathy_OBrien__Mark_Philips_-_Trance_Formation_of_America_MKULTRA_-_1995.pdf

http://images.wikia.com/en.futurama/images/c/c6/Henry_Kissinger%27s_head.png

wtf@ that wiki article. it sounds batshit

I went down the cathy o'brien mk-ultra psychic sex assassins rabbit hole in the good old days of the weird web - dimly remember getting disturbed by late-night reading of the greenbaum brainwashing/mpd stuff - this is the big thing about it, looks like overlong craziness now, I'll see if I can't find a summary.

Wow, Ted Patrick, huh. What a guy!

Started reading Sybil Exposed last night. I'm not too far into it, but I will say that Sybil was most certainly theologically abused. Yikes.

You are going to enjoy the shit out of this book.

I had no idea that Seventh Day Adventists invented soy milk and veggie burgers. I mean, if I stopped reading it right now I would still feel like I got my money's worth right there.

And graham crackers!

Sybil's mom made and sold a tomato-flavored meat substitute iirc. I forgot to mention that yesterday.

Patrick reminds me a bit of the guy who started America's Most Wanted--moving from a personal event to a public crusade--although Patrick's resume seems a lot dicier.

Didn't know till reading 1973 Nervous Breakdown that Lyndon LaRouche was part of the cult hysteria with "Operation Mop-Up": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche.

there's a whole other side to this that we haven't discussed -- the culture of diagnosed multiples who "choose not to reintegrate"

here is an essay from one of them http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/nambiet/integration.html

The entire idea that a household must "integrate" in this sense is a product of social control through rigid definition, something I hope American society is moving away from.
It also doesn't work as easily as we are led to believe. Dr. Lucinda Harman, who worked with numerous multiples -- officially diagnosed with MPD -- at Dr. Cornelia Wilbur's Open Hospital for Multiple Personality, often observed people in households arranging to -pretend- to be integrated to keep the doctors happy. She reports the following:
"Frequent stories about providing therapists and society with what they wanted to see, abound. I have never met an integrated multiple. However, some tried to convince themselves that they were -- the whole time that they were switching."
So obviously, it isn't as easy as it's been made out to be. You may wish to take this into consideration if you are thinking about trying to integrate.

btw for those who fuck with Nook, Debbie Nathan's Satan's Silence is only $3.50 on there...

There is also the Tumblr (at least this is where I've seen it) phenomenon of "headmates," and specifically additional personalities that take on the traits of a fictional character - http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/headmates.

I'm sure there are better dedicated blogs but that is at least a sampling.

I think the headmates that are fictional characters are called "fictives."

http://livingplural.tumblr.com/
http://16-spring-snakes-in-a-nut-can.tumblr.com/list
http://groupofloops.tumblr.com/
http://always-fluctuating.tumblr.com/about

Satan's Silence is $3 on Kindle! I bought it.

Oh jesus. This whole headmate/plural/otherkin/transethnic/FFhouse stuff is completely and utterly nuts.

Thanks, Dr. Wilbur!

This whole headmate/plural/otherkin/transethnic/FFhouse stuff is completely and utterly nuts.

I can believe how many of these people are on tumblr, it's bananas.

http://candacevan.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/drcorneliawilbur.jpg?w=220&h=237
No prob.
--Dr Wilbur

wait, what?

Wait, where did you get Satan's Silence for Kindle? Amazon says it's not even available on Kindle.

I'm fascinated by the Tumblr Headmates. I feel a legitimate internal conflict between my general tendency toward taking people at their word when they are talking about their own mental health and personal identities, and thinking it's mostly just a bunch of kids using it as a coping strategy for being bullied at school. Like, "Nobody will eat lunch with me... it is because I AM A WOLF!!! HOOOOOWWWLLLLLL!!!!!"

And graham crackers!

created to suppress the sexual urges of young girls iirc

And boys. All the sexual urges. But while jerking it was bad news for boys, it was a one way ticket to dying on the streets as a filthy whore and going straight to hell for girls.

i searched for debbie nathan on my kindle

Nobody will eat lunch with me... it is because I AM A WOLF!

dying

i revived a thread to talk about the tumblr headmates thing but no one was biting

My name is Paul Allen, and I am an otherkin. I am 22 years old, and I live in Canada. I recently discovered what an otherkin was, and I was so thankful to find people like me on Tumblr, it has helped me realize exactly what it is about me that made me feel so different from other people.

I have a few headmates, but the one that I am identifies as a spatula. This is going to be a serious blog about me going through life as a someone who identifies as a spatula. I hope I can make a few friends along the way as well :D

wow

a spatula

i don't really know what to say

thanks tumblr

that guy is so earnest about the fact he's not trolling i suspect he is trolling. i don't know. do i want to start a 'crazy people on tumblr' thread

i dunno. i feel kinda bad about the idea but it's your decision to make, and you may make it differently if you were a spatula.

yeah i should probably think about it, i feel like there are genuinely interesting things about it beyond 'look at this train wreck', i don't really know how to foster that discussion though

it's just another side to the story, that's the only reason i brought it up at all. generally i don't think it's agl to point and laugh at people.

I also loved Go Ask Alice as a kid. I don't know which I loved more -- Go Ask Alice, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, or Alice (the tv show). They're all v entertaining, all of the Alices.

― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 30 July 2012 23:27 (Yesterday) Permalink

you forgot alice, sweet alice

oh yeah! i knew there was another one!

and you may make it differently if you were a spatula.

"one day I just... flipped out"

xp Yeah, exactly. Because as soon as I start thinking about the genuinely interesting aspect of it, somebody self-identifies as a spatula.

That's the other problem, is that half the time I think people are just trolling and I honestly can't tell the difference sometimes.

I think maybe one interesting distinction between the headmates crew and Sybil & Friends is that the headmates generally deny an abusive past and claim that their DID or MPD is just a natural state of being, not one caused by any trauma.

If spatula dude is not trolling I will eat my hat. That I identify as a core headmate. I am hatkin.

if you point at the hat, and if it is very spiritual, i will know you are who you say you are

XD

Or actually:

c|:D

I just get such a weird feeling from this new age of 12 year olds being able to proclaim themselves to be foxes or otherkins or vampires or other radical identity positions and be backed up on it by an online framework of defenders that does not only consist of other kids... I mean, when I was a kid, you could play RPGs as much as possible or read SFF novels all the time or fill notebooks with characters and worlds and lyrics etc but there was NO OPTION WHATSOEVER of choosing to live as a fantasy creature, and I can't help but feel like that limitation was a good thing... this shit really scares me sometimes...

Maybe you should start a campaign to deprogram otherkin.

and you may make it differently if you were a spatula.

"one day I just... flipped out"

― Dunn O)))))))) (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:08 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fwiw, I looked for the 'like' button on this post.

got a cool ashtar command book. that is one crazy alien-channeling cult. love the crude drawings of various aliens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtar_%28extraterrestrial_being%29#Ashtar_Command

you need to give them your email address to get into the ashtar website:

http://www.ashtarcommandcrew.net/

If spatula dude is not trolling I will eat my hat. That I identify as a core headmate. I am hatkin.

― emil.y, Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:13 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

On the "headmates" tag, somebody posted a screen shot of another Tumblr with the intent of mocking it, and in the screenshot, a person who has a vampire otherkin headmate talked about how the headmate gets triggered when people talk about pooping because vampires don't eat and so don't have buttholes, and in the screen shot, somebody responded to that comment very seriously, apologizing for the ablism that the buttholeless vampire headmate has to endure. I would think that was trolling because come on but then somebody else was mocking it so I just don't know.

i think that's part of the rabbit hole experience of the whole thing, that there's this weird point at which you can't tell who's trolling and who's for real ('real')

vs: who has genuine mpd and who has just convinced themselves they have