the totally insane true story behind the 1970s film and book Sybil

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The music really made an impression, though I later learned it was nothing but covers by hacky in-house musicians

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EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 30 July 2012 23:57 (eleven years ago) link

I think it overlapped a lot. D&D was Satanic, heavy metal was Satanic (backward masking!), Satanic ritual abuse was Satanic. Like, they hook you in with D&D, then get you into metal, and next thing you know your standing in a circle in the woods chanting over a pentagram.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Monday, 30 July 2012 23:58 (eleven years ago) link

I was too scared to ever read Go Ask Alice and by the time I was scared I was too old to care.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 30 July 2012 23:59 (eleven years ago) link

When I was 18 I got sort of into Wicca (shut up I was 18) and bought a pentagram ring and my mom basically had a shitfit and made me stop wearing it because it she thought it was evil.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link

standing in a circle in the woods chanting over a pentagram....naked, possibly smeared with sacrificial animal blood if you're really far gone

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

The woman who probably wrote Go Ask Alice, Jay's Journal, It Happened to Nancy, and other "true" diaries of troubled teens, Beatrice Sparks, died just a couple months ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatrice_Sparks

She was a "Morman youth counselor."

thirdalternative, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 00:32 (eleven years ago) link

Thank Whomever I got through my childhood before all these shitwaves passed through my woodland abode, which had been troubled only by (insert 50s/60s bummer headlines here). But the Manson case was the fountainhead. That got to everybody, even amid everyday disaster--"Awright, I've had enough/What else can you show me." Manson and those girls and guys seemed at first like the usual suspects in a way, til the evidence registered, and then lil Hobbit-gone-bad Charlie (I didn't even like the good ones) showed up in court with a shaved face and head (NOBODY outside of a z-movie had the latter), and those eyes and eyebrows, and it was like who and what is this guy Then the girls followed suit. Taking acid and finding youself thinking about that case was not good. Can imagine how Katy Perry's Dad did that and went from Timothy Leary to Jeeeeesus.

dow, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 00:39 (eleven years ago) link

"When I was 18 I sort of got into Wicca"

inspiration?

Yam, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 00:42 (eleven years ago) link

ha Though the timing would have been right for that I don't think I even saw that movie until years later. It was just big then and got a lot of press. I never practiced or anything. Mostly I just read a lot and made up a silly name for myself. Please note, this phase did not last very long.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 00:46 (eleven years ago) link

Stevie Nicks was supposedly way into Wicca or White Magic, if any diff

dow, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link

here's some sad sad heartbreaking shit i grew up with

http://daretodream-maggie.blogspot.com/2012/05/jackson-and-akki-judged-by-looks.html

the late great, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC0Cbc7i0dQ

the late great, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 02:25 (eleven years ago) link

they have this shit for that dude in colorado yet is what i'm wondering

the late great, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 02:27 (eleven years ago) link

x-post - Was too young at the time to actually remember that but I have heard of it because that's the county I grew up in. Acid King was maybe WSoS.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 02:28 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHl83M4bmZE

the late great, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 02:30 (eleven years ago) link

oh you'll like this then i think

the late great, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 02:30 (eleven years ago) link

lol I just finished watching that one

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 02:31 (eleven years ago) link

even the chair of psychology at miskatonic university doesn't believe it

wingate peaslee: "i don't believe it"

the late great, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 02:37 (eleven years ago) link

la lechera: you might be interested in siri hustvedt's the shaking woman or a history of my nerves, which is only tangentially related to what's being discussed here but still a good read (although it's missing the lurid aspect).

there is an interview with her here: http://bigthink.com/ideas/19610

just1n3, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 03:03 (eleven years ago) link

speaking of 80's panic, you can watch Mazes & Monsters on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkb5v62U7EI

scott seward, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 03:24 (eleven years ago) link

lol really is the best scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfxXug5ZMdk

scott seward, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 03:27 (eleven years ago) link

It had been eight years since I had been hunted and brutalized by Cheney in Wyoming, and apparently he wanted to see how my programming had progressed before agreeing to use me in Reagan’s "Hands-On Mind-Control Demonstrations". He grabbed me roughly by the hair and slung me onto a black leather chair, tipping my head backwards over the high studded arm.

"Audition here," he snarled. Since I last saw him, I had undergone Wizard Of Oz Tin Man programming, which he accessed to accommodate his large, thick penis. He placed his hands on my jaw while he said, "Soon we’ll have you purring like a wet l oiled machine. All of your moving parts are pivotal and gliding with ease. Melt into my hands. I’ll hold your jaw to keep it from slipping while you slip through a window in lime." He then jerked my jaw out of joint, and roughly gratified himself in my throat.1

As he lit his cigarette, I slowly regained focus enough to realize I was in pain. The back of my head hurt from being thrust into the studs on the chair, and I slowly lifted my head. My owner, Senator Byrd, had just walked in and realized Cheney had already completed the "audition". Referring to compartmentalizing my memory via stun gun high voltage, Byrd asked, "Did you fry her?"

Cheney, ’cocksure’ of himself as always, answered. "She can’t have fucked all of Washington" (indicating that no one would believe me anyway, even if I did reach this point and talk). Cheney put out his cigarette and said as he went out the door, "She’ll work. Tell Ronnie she’ll work."

When Byrd saw that my lips were bleeding, he called Cheney a "son of a bitch" under his breath, as this damage would prevent my fulfilling other assignments that were planned for me. Byrd touched his finger to my swollen lips and tasted the blood (and Cheney) several times. Then he slapped me hard across the face, which re-aligned my jaw but caused more blood to flow down my chin. He took a box of tissues from the desk and threw it at me, the corner hitting me in the forehead. "Wipe yourself up. You’re just getting started. I’ll see to it you get what you’ve got coming to you."

Fortunately for me, Byrd had cause to return to the formal cocktail party and did not have time to brutalize me further. My face was battered, mouth torn, and my throat felt torn and stretched. I had difficulty swallowing for some time, and could not speak. I certainly was in no condition to return to the cocktail party, and was escorted out by agents/guards.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/transforusa/transformation.htm

dell (del), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:08 (eleven years ago) link

so much to explore! i'm overwhelmed. with gratitude.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:15 (eleven years ago) link

dying to know about kissinger's mind control slave

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:24 (eleven years ago) link

thank you

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:29 (eleven years ago) link

This guy is central to the chapter on cults in 1973 Nervous Breakdown:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Patrick

http://www.fdsrc.org/Gems-Jewels_Honorees/Ted_Patrick_files/ted-patrick.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:30 (eleven years ago) link

oops, i forgot to include the footnote from the cheney story:
1 My jaw is permanently damaged From Cheney. I have chronic TMJ.

also, in the same book reagan's favorite music is that of Air Supply, and he somehow uses their songs to program the author's various compartmentalized personalities

dell (del), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 06:53 (eleven years ago) link

wtf@ that wiki article. it sounds batshit

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 10:25 (eleven years ago) link

I went down the cathy o'brien mk-ultra psychic sex assassins rabbit hole in the good old days of the weird web - dimly remember getting disturbed by late-night reading of the greenbaum brainwashing/mpd stuff - this is the big thing about it, looks like overlong craziness now, I'll see if I can't find a summary.

woof, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 10:35 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, Ted Patrick, huh. What a guy!

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

Started reading Sybil Exposed last night. I'm not too far into it, but I will say that Sybil was most certainly theologically abused. Yikes.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

You are going to enjoy the shit out of this book.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link

I had no idea that Seventh Day Adventists invented soy milk and veggie burgers. I mean, if I stopped reading it right now I would still feel like I got my money's worth right there.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

And graham crackers!

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link

Sybil's mom made and sold a tomato-flavored meat substitute iirc. I forgot to mention that yesterday.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

Patrick reminds me a bit of the guy who started America's Most Wanted--moving from a personal event to a public crusade--although Patrick's resume seems a lot dicier.

Didn't know till reading 1973 Nervous Breakdown that Lyndon LaRouche was part of the cult hysteria with "Operation Mop-Up": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche.

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

there's a whole other side to this that we haven't discussed -- the culture of diagnosed multiples who "choose not to reintegrate"

here is an essay from one of them http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/nambiet/integration.html

The entire idea that a household must "integrate" in this sense is a product of social control through rigid definition, something I hope American society is moving away from.
It also doesn't work as easily as we are led to believe. Dr. Lucinda Harman, who worked with numerous multiples -- officially diagnosed with MPD -- at Dr. Cornelia Wilbur's Open Hospital for Multiple Personality, often observed people in households arranging to -pretend- to be integrated to keep the doctors happy. She reports the following:
"Frequent stories about providing therapists and society with what they wanted to see, abound. I have never met an integrated multiple. However, some tried to convince themselves that they were -- the whole time that they were switching."
So obviously, it isn't as easy as it's been made out to be. You may wish to take this into consideration if you are thinking about trying to integrate.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

btw for those who fuck with Nook, Debbie Nathan's Satan's Silence is only $3.50 on there...

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link

There is also the Tumblr (at least this is where I've seen it) phenomenon of "headmates," and specifically additional personalities that take on the traits of a fictional character - http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/headmates.

I'm sure there are better dedicated blogs but that is at least a sampling.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

I think the headmates that are fictional characters are called "fictives."

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

Satan's Silence is $3 on Kindle! I bought it.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link

Oh jesus. This whole headmate/plural/otherkin/transethnic/FFhouse stuff is completely and utterly nuts.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link


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