the totally insane true story behind the 1970s film and book Sybil

Could I request that there be no mention of the Easter Bunny on this thread?

This has been a rough day for you, I understand.

Go Ask Alice movie is hilarious. Shatner! Matlock! special one-scene guest appearance by Mackenzie Phillips!

I like the part where she wakes up in a park unaware of how she got there, even though she's apparently been around for weeks

Sparks' second "diary" project, Jay's Journal, gave rise to a controversy that cast further doubt on Go Ask Alice's veracity. Jay's Journal was allegedly the diary of a boy who committed suicide after becoming involved with the occult. Again, Sparks claimed to have based it on the diary a patient. However, the family of the boy in question, Alden Barrett, disowned the book. They claimed that Sparks had used only a handful of the actual diary entries, and had invented the great majority of the book, including the entire occult angle.[2] This led many to speculate that "Alice's" diary—if indeed it existed—had received similar treatment. No one claiming to have known the real "Alice" has ever come forward.

obviously an upstanding member of the medical community

Michelle Remembers is now on its way to me.

To be 100% clear - I really really really do not want to make light of actual child abuse itt -- it's real and really really horrible and, logically, causes people to do all kinds of mental gymnastics to shield themselves from memories of it. Really I just was shocked at the cultural phenomenon of Sybil, LLC, the women involved, and the ripple effect Dr Wilbur's work had on the mental health field, the rise and fall of MPD as a popular diagnosis and the totally bizarre Satanic ritual abuse sex cult stuff that followed.

I also loved Go Ask Alice as a kid. I don't know which I loved more -- Go Ask Alice, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, or Alice (the tv show). They're all v entertaining, all of the Alices.

Ha, we watched some of Go Ask Alice in Grade 8! All I remember taking away from it was hippie girls and Jefferson Airplane. I think it actually made drugs seem more exciting.

Maybe I should watch it again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMM3X3hqj3w

Never knew about these other books btw, though I do remember the Satanism panic from childhood. I'm pretty stoked to check some of this out.

Scared me initially...soon got over it. The music really made an impression, though I later learned it was nothing but covers by hacky in-house musicians: "White Rabbit," "Dear Mr. Fantasy," "It Ain't Easy."

What was the overlap between the SRA panic, D&D panic, and heavy metal panic? (A Venn diagram might help.)

(Also WTF with people panicking in the 80s?)
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The music really made an impression, though I later learned it was nothing but covers by hacky in-house musicians

OTM

I think it overlapped a lot. D&D was Satanic, heavy metal was Satanic (backward masking!), Satanic ritual abuse was Satanic. Like, they hook you in with D&D, then get you into metal, and next thing you know your standing in a circle in the woods chanting over a pentagram.

I was too scared to ever read Go Ask Alice and by the time I was scared I was too old to care.

When I was 18 I got sort of into Wicca (shut up I was 18) and bought a pentagram ring and my mom basically had a shitfit and made me stop wearing it because it she thought it was evil.

standing in a circle in the woods chanting over a pentagram....naked, possibly smeared with sacrificial animal blood if you're really far gone

The woman who probably wrote Go Ask Alice, Jay's Journal, It Happened to Nancy, and other "true" diaries of troubled teens, Beatrice Sparks, died just a couple months ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatrice_Sparks

She was a "Morman youth counselor."

Thank Whomever I got through my childhood before all these shitwaves passed through my woodland abode, which had been troubled only by (insert 50s/60s bummer headlines here). But the Manson case was the fountainhead. That got to everybody, even amid everyday disaster--"Awright, I've had enough/What else can you show me." Manson and those girls and guys seemed at first like the usual suspects in a way, til the evidence registered, and then lil Hobbit-gone-bad Charlie (I didn't even like the good ones) showed up in court with a shaved face and head (NOBODY outside of a z-movie had the latter), and those eyes and eyebrows, and it was like who and what is this guy Then the girls followed suit. Taking acid and finding youself thinking about that case was not good. Can imagine how Katy Perry's Dad did that and went from Timothy Leary to Jeeeeesus.

"When I was 18 I sort of got into Wicca"

inspiration?

ha Though the timing would have been right for that I don't think I even saw that movie until years later. It was just big then and got a lot of press. I never practiced or anything. Mostly I just read a lot and made up a silly name for myself. Please note, this phase did not last very long.

Stevie Nicks was supposedly way into Wicca or White Magic, if any diff

here's some sad sad heartbreaking shit i grew up with

http://daretodream-maggie.blogspot.com/2012/05/jackson-and-akki-judged-by-looks.html

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/may/09/dale-akiki-reflects-historic-molestation-trial/

THE LSD KING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gu131f9Y30

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky_Kasso

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC0Cbc7i0dQ

they have this shit for that dude in colorado yet is what i'm wondering

x-post - Was too young at the time to actually remember that but I have heard of it because that's the county I grew up in. Acid King was maybe WSoS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHl83M4bmZE

oh you'll like this then i think

lol I just finished watching that one

even the chair of psychology at miskatonic university doesn't believe it

wingate peaslee: "i don't believe it"

la lechera: you might be interested in siri hustvedt's the shaking woman or a history of my nerves, which is only tangentially related to what's being discussed here but still a good read (although it's missing the lurid aspect).

there is an interview with her here: http://bigthink.com/ideas/19610

speaking of 80's panic, you can watch Mazes & Monsters on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkb5v62U7EI

lol really is the best scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfxXug5ZMdk

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51U-hXS6kKL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

http://www.steamshovelpress.com/images/thanksbookcover_large.jpg

It had been eight years since I had been hunted and brutalized by Cheney in Wyoming, and apparently he wanted to see how my programming had progressed before agreeing to use me in Reagan’s "Hands-On Mind-Control Demonstrations". He grabbed me roughly by the hair and slung me onto a black leather chair, tipping my head backwards over the high studded arm.

"Audition here," he snarled. Since I last saw him, I had undergone Wizard Of Oz Tin Man programming, which he accessed to accommodate his large, thick penis. He placed his hands on my jaw while he said, "Soon we’ll have you purring like a wet l oiled machine. All of your moving parts are pivotal and gliding with ease. Melt into my hands. I’ll hold your jaw to keep it from slipping while you slip through a window in lime." He then jerked my jaw out of joint, and roughly gratified himself in my throat.1

As he lit his cigarette, I slowly regained focus enough to realize I was in pain. The back of my head hurt from being thrust into the studs on the chair, and I slowly lifted my head. My owner, Senator Byrd, had just walked in and realized Cheney had already completed the "audition". Referring to compartmentalizing my memory via stun gun high voltage, Byrd asked, "Did you fry her?"

Cheney, ’cocksure’ of himself as always, answered. "She can’t have fucked all of Washington" (indicating that no one would believe me anyway, even if I did reach this point and talk). Cheney put out his cigarette and said as he went out the door, "She’ll work. Tell Ronnie she’ll work."

When Byrd saw that my lips were bleeding, he called Cheney a "son of a bitch" under his breath, as this damage would prevent my fulfilling other assignments that were planned for me. Byrd touched his finger to my swollen lips and tasted the blood (and Cheney) several times. Then he slapped me hard across the face, which re-aligned my jaw but caused more blood to flow down my chin. He took a box of tissues from the desk and threw it at me, the corner hitting me in the forehead. "Wipe yourself up. You’re just getting started. I’ll see to it you get what you’ve got coming to you."

Fortunately for me, Byrd had cause to return to the formal cocktail party and did not have time to brutalize me further. My face was battered, mouth torn, and my throat felt torn and stretched. I had difficulty swallowing for some time, and could not speak. I certainly was in no condition to return to the cocktail party, and was escorted out by agents/guards.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/transforusa/transformation.htm

so much to explore! i'm overwhelmed. with gratitude.

http://www.fashion-writings.com/img/sj/things-that-never-cross-a-guys-mind/dick-cheney.jpg

dying to know about kissinger's mind control slave

http://shatteringdenial.com/books/taylor_thanks_for_the_memories.pdf

thank you

This guy is central to the chapter on cults in 1973 Nervous Breakdown:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Patrick

http://www.fdsrc.org/Gems-Jewels_Honorees/Ted_Patrick_files/ted-patrick.jpg

oops, i forgot to include the footnote from the cheney story:
1 My jaw is permanently damaged From Cheney. I have chronic TMJ.

also, in the same book reagan's favorite music is that of Air Supply, and he somehow uses their songs to program the author's various compartmentalized personalities

http://static.everdot.org/ebooks/english/Cathy_OBrien__Mark_Philips_-_Trance_Formation_of_America_MKULTRA_-_1995.pdf

http://images.wikia.com/en.futurama/images/c/c6/Henry_Kissinger%27s_head.png

wtf@ that wiki article. it sounds batshit

I went down the cathy o'brien mk-ultra psychic sex assassins rabbit hole in the good old days of the weird web - dimly remember getting disturbed by late-night reading of the greenbaum brainwashing/mpd stuff - this is the big thing about it, looks like overlong craziness now, I'll see if I can't find a summary.

Wow, Ted Patrick, huh. What a guy!

Started reading Sybil Exposed last night. I'm not too far into it, but I will say that Sybil was most certainly theologically abused. Yikes.

You are going to enjoy the shit out of this book.

I had no idea that Seventh Day Adventists invented soy milk and veggie burgers. I mean, if I stopped reading it right now I would still feel like I got my money's worth right there.