They don't have anything to do with sybil/MPD but they were ghost hunters real early in the game. They were basically the equiv of the little old lady in Poltergeist.
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I was just kind of riffing on the theme of possession. Lorraine Warren is a sweet old loon. She played some truly terrifying recordings of exorcisms, and showed us video of a rocking chair moving on its own, and 8mm footage of a posessed Raggedy Ann doll named Annabelle. She told us you'll only see ghosts if you want to, and never to mess with Oujia boards.
― baking (soda), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
I still don't believe it. We used to play with Ouija boards at every sleep over I ever had between about 11 and 14. Someone was always moving it.
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
posessed Raggedy Ann doll named Annabelle
That sounds pretty scary though.
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
Totally watch all those shows though. Chip Coffey is my favorite paranormal investigator. We're Facebook friends.
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, July 30, 2012 3:25 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Fuck I listened to a podcast abt this case last year, it was awesome... can't remember which one...
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
http://efeyas.hubpages.com/hub/Annabelle-The-Possessed-Doll-A-Terrifying-Case
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
they used to give spooky talks at my high school during halloween. and this was after the demon murder case that they were involved in. you'd think they'd want to steer clear of my town. they are good at being spooky though! and they set the bar with amityville.
― scott seward, Monday, 30 July 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
The haunted doll is amazing
― homosexual II, Monday, 30 July 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
Seamingly, from no where, a liquidy red substance had appeared on the doll.
Nice uninentional punwork in the awful grammar there.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
they set the bar with amityville
We used to drive by the horror house all the time when I was in HS until Amy Fisher shot Mary-Jo Buttafuco and then we'd drive by her and Joey's house instead.
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
Long Island is very exciting you see.
The creepiest haunted doll has to be Robert.
― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 30 July 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
Also the guy who wrote the book about Amityville ate in my parents restaurant shortly after it was published and showed my mom a necklace he'd had made which was a silver model of the book. I think he died weirdly a couple years thereafter.
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
WHO IS ROBERT?
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
Never read Sibyl or most of the other books mentioned in this thread, but I did read The Minds of Billy Milligan when I was in maybe junior high. Pretty fucked up stuff, and obviously I was in no position at that age to judge whether it was all true, all bullshit, or some mixture of the two.
― 誤訳侮辱, Monday, 30 July 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
ENBB, Robert the Doll
― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 30 July 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
Ahhhhhh!
Going to Key West for my birthday later this year. Totally gonna go see Robert.
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
I think I saw this movie. BUt I keep thinking of another one: where a girl "inherits" (sorry migraine) the spirit of a girl who just died. A silly horror movie
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
Don't take Robert's picture without getting permission!
― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 30 July 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, don't worry, I just read that part. I'll be sure to ask first. Also, I very nearly booked a room at what is now a guesthouse but used to be his old owner the artist's house!
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
Guys
http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/trutv.com/graphics/photos/criminal_mind/psychology/multiples/3-3-Sybil-Shirley-K-Mason.jpg
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/26347737/Tears+for+Fears+tff73246.png
creeeeeeepy
― ms. cookie (carl agatha), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
Also the guy who wrote the book about Amityville ate my parents
^ misread as this, thought thread was about to take a horrifying turn
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
okay, am I missing something or is there a link on that site to the story behind the doll?
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
I have read almost all of these books (although I conflated a lot of Sybil and When Rabbit Howls (which one has the, um, button hook involvement?)) but somehow forgot about Debbie Nathan's book despite being super psyched to read it before it came out.
Rectifying that ASAP.
― ms. cookie (carl agatha), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
Robert? There was no story - I was confused too. I just googled him and found a wiki page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_the_Doll
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
x-post
Although I never read the book, I totally remember Truddi Chase, seeing her on Oprah and the Shelly Long movie. I was too afraid to watch it!
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks ENBB! That's what I was looking for.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
okay wtf! tears for fears facial resemblance/album title reference is wigging my shit OUT.
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
I know, right??!?!?
― ms. cookie (carl agatha), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
Button hook is Sybil.
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
Sybil was the "I can't eat chocolate ice cream" book, too, right? God the effed up details that I remember from these books.
― ms. cookie (carl agatha), Monday, 30 July 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
I don't remember anything about chocolate ice cream. If you're thinking cold water bladder enemas while mom plays thundering classical piano, you're thinking Sybil.
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 30 July 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link
I followed the link from the Wikipedia page on Robert the Doll to its homepage, where they have an animated gif of him wiggling his head, and now I am afraid.
― The New Dirty Vicar, Monday, 30 July 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
Did Sybil ever meet up with Eve from the Five (or was it three?) Faces of Eve?
My first awareness of these things came from a fascinating UK TV documentary about this Hillside Strangler guy in Los Angeles, who when caught started manifesting multiple personality stuff. At one point psychiatrists were going to class him as guilty but insane, but eventually they decided he was faking it, basically using Sybil as his Multiple-Personalities-For-Dummies. The idea of multiple personalities still fascinates me, for all that I don't believe in them.
― The New Dirty Vicar, Monday, 30 July 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link
Go Ask Alice is also total fraud.
Book cover used to freak me out when I was a kid.
― thirdalternative, Monday, 30 July 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link
The ice cream thing (it might not have been chocolate) was that a therapist gave whomever it was a dish of ice cream, and the texture and shape of the scoops of ice cream reminded the poor MPD sufferer of testicles and she flipped out.
― ms. cookie (carl agatha), Monday, 30 July 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
Is that true? The book/movie had a big effect on me in middle school--I've even shown the film to my own middle-school students.
― clemenza, Monday, 30 July 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk_-u0wejk8
― mythical mickey rourke jacket (latebloomer), Monday, 30 July 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, it is true! That book is a fraud!
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 30 July 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
Just read the Wikipedia page. Another illusion shattered.
― clemenza, Monday, 30 July 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
Could I request that there be no mention of the Easter Bunny on this thread?
― clemenza, Monday, 30 July 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
This has been a rough day for you, I understand.
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 30 July 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
Go Ask Alice movie is hilarious. Shatner! Matlock! special one-scene guest appearance by Mackenzie Phillips!
I like the part where she wakes up in a park unaware of how she got there, even though she's apparently been around for weeks
― Dunn O)))))))) (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 July 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
Sparks' second "diary" project, Jay's Journal, gave rise to a controversy that cast further doubt on Go Ask Alice's veracity. Jay's Journal was allegedly the diary of a boy who committed suicide after becoming involved with the occult. Again, Sparks claimed to have based it on the diary a patient. However, the family of the boy in question, Alden Barrett, disowned the book. They claimed that Sparks had used only a handful of the actual diary entries, and had invented the great majority of the book, including the entire occult angle.[2] This led many to speculate that "Alice's" diary—if indeed it existed—had received similar treatment. No one claiming to have known the real "Alice" has ever come forward.
obviously an upstanding member of the medical community
― Dunn O)))))))) (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 July 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
Michelle Remembers is now on its way to me.
To be 100% clear - I really really really do not want to make light of actual child abuse itt -- it's real and really really horrible and, logically, causes people to do all kinds of mental gymnastics to shield themselves from memories of it. Really I just was shocked at the cultural phenomenon of Sybil, LLC, the women involved, and the ripple effect Dr Wilbur's work had on the mental health field, the rise and fall of MPD as a popular diagnosis and the totally bizarre Satanic ritual abuse sex cult stuff that followed.
I also loved Go Ask Alice as a kid. I don't know which I loved more -- Go Ask Alice, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, or Alice (the tv show). They're all v entertaining, all of the Alices.
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 30 July 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, we watched some of Go Ask Alice in Grade 8! All I remember taking away from it was hippie girls and Jefferson Airplane. I think it actually made drugs seem more exciting.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 30 July 2012 23:49 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe I should watch it again:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMM3X3hqj3w
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 30 July 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
Never knew about these other books btw, though I do remember the Satanism panic from childhood. I'm pretty stoked to check some of this out.