the totally insane true story behind the 1970s film and book Sybil

too bad the movie isn't on youtube. shelley long!

whoa
i watched 54 sec and had to pause
that lady is too much!

shelley duvall was in the movie?! this is all coming back to me! i feel like...like i am releasing repressed childhood memories. DEMONS.

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oh RIGHT!!

i share a bday with shelley long, now i know why!

i was thinking about dream casting shelley duvall as shirley mason.

'with tom conti'

that is a GREAT poster

ad, whatever

One of them tried to invent a special foot soap (i forget which one?), but it tanked.

the doc - don't think it was a foot soap, just some kind of special industrial soap

oh man I worked at a library when When Rabbit Howls came out - I worked at the County Regional HQ shipping out books to the branches. I was so stoked that it was credited to "The Troops for Truddi Chase," such a masterstroke

i recently picked this up... haven't read into it but holy hell it is gloriously bad and trashy

http://whoyoucallingaskeptic.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/michelle-remembers-1980.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Remembers

Michelle Remembers is a book published in 1980 co-written by Canadian psychiatrist Lawrence Pazder and his psychiatric patient (and eventual wife) Michelle Smith. A best-seller, Michelle Remembers was the first book written on the subject of Satanic ritual abuse and is an important part of the controversies beginning in the 1980s regarding satanic ritual abuse and repressed memory. The book has been discredited by several investigations which found no corroboration of the book's events, while others have pointed out that the events described in the book were extremely unlikely and in some cases impossible.

Love the Trudy personality that's wearing sunglasses.

that's the same michelle remembers mentioned above, only with the more recent cover?

So what was the deal with Three or 3 Faces of Eve? Any investigative reporting on that case? Much more harrowing: sorting out truth and BS in child-abuse scandals. The once-notorious panic bubble in Jordan, Minnesota, with any truth obscured by a seemingly whack District Attorney, for inst. Then again, that amazingly zig-zag documentary about the guy who ran an after-school computer class, in the 70s I think.

the truddi in the middle is my favorite, "struggling truddi"

Joanne Woodward as Eve and Dr Wilbur is a casting masterstroke.

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Debbie Nathan was interviewed in that movie!

one of the best docs I've ever seen, no lols implied

agree, one of my favorites of the last decade

one major parallel in both trends: the possibility of coaching testimony, false memory, etc--memory is so weird anyway

also see: false confessions under police interrogation

I really MUST READ SOMETHING IN THIS GENRE... SOON! I am going to the bookstore tonight. I remember the Connecticut devil book! It scared the shit out of me!

Someone give me the best one to start with first. Really wish MICHELLE REMEMBERS was still in circulation :(

have you read SYBIL?

lol I bought a used copy of Michelle Remembers at Powell's last month, read it in my hotel room over the next day or so, and left it there on purpose because I didn't have any more use for it & it was a totally creepy book - like so clearly a cynical made-up story that you feel like you're implicit in something gross by listening to the stories this person wants you to believe she believes are true

echoes of jt leroy too

on top of all of the "is it true" complexity, there's a huge undercurrent of really gruesome exploitation in all this stuff

Capturing the Friedmans story is so sad

I've never read Sybil. That might be the best one to start with.

At times like these I wish I had a Kindle.

on top of all of the "is it true" complexity, there's a huge undercurrent of really gruesome exploitation in all this stuff

Pretty much the entire "True Crime" section of any paperback dealer.

yeah
has anyone read LOBSTER BOY?
the guy who wrote the book becomes part of the story at the end, it's crazy

I mean while we're talking true crime, this is my alltime favorite -- the book has all of these letters written to William Corder from women who wanted to marry him. It's totally bonkers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Barn_Murder

Full title The Murder of Maria Marten Being an Authentic and Faithful History with a full Development of the most Extraordinary Circumstances which Led to the Discovery of Her Body in the Red Barn

homoII you should read sybil -- it's lurid, you'll love it

The Village Voice once published a round-up (by Richard Gehr?) of Christian horror fiction, incl at least one about parents who did not spare the rod and thus did not spoil the child, so attracted the attention of secretly Satanic social workers. This was by Roger Elwood, pretty sure (he used to flood the market with paperback-original science fiction and fantasy anthologies, finally announced he was leaving that game to the Godless)

At times like these I wish I had a Kindle.

Most of this stuff is not in print digitally either iirc

It was quite a trend, with the Satanic govt entities

Thanks for reminding me of Sybil Exposed. I found it completely fascinating and told all my friends to read it though none did. Some people probably think it's a simple debunking story but it really delves into many strange and creepy aspects of our recent cultural history. It would make a great choice for a book club.

What's disturbing is to read reviews of it and see people still defending the original Sybil book or at least trying to salvage some bit of truth from the whole premise of it.

I'm not sure about the veracity of the case of "Eve," but she only had three faces while Sybil claimed 16.

I remember as a kid, being inundated with "child abuse" media... lots of tv movies (I remember one about a father that sexual abused his kids but I don't remember the title), that one mini series wherein Farrah Fawcett murders her kids, Sybil, etc. I remember thinking every adult wanted to murder me and/or molest me. It was kinda creepy.

EIII please do

― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, July 30, 2012 10:23 AM (2 hours ago)

I would like a signet paperback covers thread.

― tokyo rosemary, Monday, July 30, 2012 10:55 AM (2 hours ago)

here ya go

signet horror paperback covers of the 70s and 80s and related desiderata

From the Age of Trilogies, of course
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not only social workers................................

this is the point in the conversation where I feel obligated to point out that child abuse is very very common and a lot of these people's fantasies about beyond-the-pale organized abuse rings are probably ways of coping with more garden-variety horrors like "an uncle abused me one time & when I mentioned it to my mother she said not to worry about it and that it wouldn't happen again, which it didn't, but it still had a terrible effect on me" -- stories like that in people's pasts that fuck them up real good but lack the Giant Demonic Cabal aspect that at least makes them feel like there was some meaning in there somewhere

like, my point is, it'd be nice to think of the people advancing these narratives as just cynical hucksters, but for your cynicism to be that total, probably something very fucked up happened to you at some point during your development

the above point is U & K

and only makes it sadder

That's what I meant about xpost Much more harrowing: sorting out truth and BS in child-abuse scandals

applies to genesis of Satanic too

one prob with exploitation in 70s and 80s, would to such stupefying heights, esp when cable TV talk shows ruled, there would be a pile-on of "experts", a lot of people would eventually automatically tune out, the circus would move on and/or just make regular news-cycle returns, real child abuse etc would still be a problem, with possibilities of hysteria, exploitation factored into hesitations and/or rationalizations of reporting abuse.

and only makes it sadder
agree 100%