Rolling Metal Thread 2012

it's psychologically very very very bad for children to see domestic violence

He always seemed like the classiest member of Anthrax, too – in comparison to Scott Ian, anyway. Shame.

What is this "in front of a child" bullshit? Is that an extra charge now, like the anti-abortion "fetal pain" laws right-wing fucknozzles keep trying to pass?

It's an extra charge, but it's not a bullshit extra charge. Children who witness domestic violence get pretty fucked up & it takes years of work to undo the damage. I understand the reflexive urge to say "oh what is this A CHILD bullshit you fundie fucks," but this is not related to "fetal pain" laws (which are horrendous, and unconstitutional besides). This is a good law; if in the course of fucking up your marriage you go the extra mile and damage your child, society has a vested interest in holding you accountable

imo

well i mean don't those kids have a higher change of going on to become involved in those relationship in the future (either as abused or abuser)

that ends up costing the state a lot of money down the line

they do - I'm in favor of the statute we're talking about - that should be clear from the graf I wrote

has anyone else heard prizehog?

i didn't know anything about them before the show - though when they went on i recognized them from amoeba sf - and i was thinking a lot about how dynamic the drummer was and so it was funny to see they have something on gravity

i wish i knew the names of the songs they did

http://saintroserecords.com/2012/05/14/new-prizehog-ep-on-gravity-records/

yeah i understood you were in favor, i was just checking to see if my understanding of "why" was right

whoa, I did not realize gravity records was still going

By the way, I don't know how my fellow denizens here feel about this summer's Maiden tour, but for me, Thursday's show in Calgary turned out to be the best Maiden show I have ever seen. Performance, live mix, crowd, venue, vantage point, camaraderie, everything converged perfectly. What you always wish will happen whenever you see that one all-time favourite band.

I'm very much looking forward to seeing them in a couple of weeks.

Had to miss this tour due to life obligations. There were problems three of the five times I've seen Iron Maiden - twice the sound went out (Hammerstein Ballroom 2003 and MSG 2008), and once I was outdoors and it rained (Ozzfest 2005). But I've never seen them give a bad show.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/entertainment/7009344.bin

So all Bruce Dickinson did on his day off Saturday was fly a vintage WWII plane from Edmonton to the Northwest Territories and back.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/entertainment/Iron+Maiden+joins+Pilots+historic+northbound+plane/7009343/story.html

Well, I mean, it's Edmonton, what else is there to do there?

Initially thought you were referring to Edmonton, NE London. Now that would have been a journey!

listening to Jess & the Ancient Ones pretty much once a day. So amazing.

i listened to one song and i liked it, not sure why i didn't go back to listen to the whole thing. will do, thanks for reminding me.

Really liking the new Bosse-de-Nage.

Yeah, the Jess & the Ancient Ones album is awesome stuff..."Sulfur Giants" is as good as an epic metal song as I've heard this year.

Yes Prize Hog are great. I've thrown a number of shows for them and reviewed them here and there. Very Melvins meets Butthole Surfers to my ears. And that's a good thing. Plus they are D&D nerds.

Huh. Apparently Charlie Benante was the one assaulted, by his wife.

okay, i'm sure this definitely outs me as "false", but i'm really excited for this development:

In his post (?) Sonic Youth career, Thurston Moore has taken a bit of an aesthetic turn: he's joined the black metal supergroup Twilight. Nachtmystium guitarist/vocalist Blake Judd, also a member of Twilight, revealed this in an interview with the 1st Five.

For their upcoming album, out this fall on Century Media, the Twilight lineup will consist of Moore, Judd, producer Sanford Parker, Stavros Giannopoulos from the Atlas Moth, Wrest of Leviathan, and Imperial from Krieg. Judd told the 1st Five that he hopes to get Isis' Aaron Turner, Lichens' Rob Lowe, and Malefic of Xasthur to also contribute.

in other news there's a new rap supergroup featuring me & Sufjan

^^^^ and there it is, right on schedule.

so long metal thread.

just, ugh, there are so many other places on the internet to find that kind of elitist bullshit wrt to metal, i don't really like reading it here too. kind of surprising to hear it coming from steven tyler but oh well.

jon - calm down. that is really not much of a jab after you set yourself up with the "false" thing.

I don't care because I'm not a Judd fan. I like Parker and Giannopoulos but I'd rather listen to them in other settings.

lmao steven tyler is like the biggest metal purist here!

fwiw, i'm not taking it personally, i'm just sick of reading snark fucking everywhere these days and i think that kinda was the tipping point for me tonight. i really love this thread thanks to the unironic love of pretty much everything (girly metal, whatever) but i guess this was a good reminder to not get my expectations up too high for the internet.

I'm not sure that that was so much "elitist" as it was a "joke"?

of course its a joke! but its also a really snide dismissal of someone else's tastes. but again, lesson learned, next time i'll just take my excitement about a new metal project to my own Word document.

alright guys done being emo, but i hate to see good threads devolve into neg Whiney level potshots.

I don't think he was being dismissive, dude, I think he just saw the opportunity to make a funny. I don't think it was any sort of actual judgment on you or the supergroup thing.

I remember the first Twilight record getting some love in these parts.

I could see the potential for Thurston Moore to add something in a metal context (Sonic Youth have some serious riffs in their catalog - not many, but they're there), I just worry that the other dudes will defer to him too much.

i don't think it was a judgment on me, no, but there really was no other way to read it than a judgment on the "supergroup". again, just so tired of the "this is metal, this is not" shit you can read in 1,435,025 other places on the internet, figured we were kind of past that.

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also, y'know, it kinda stings a little to get that kind of response from a poster you really like and respect.

the Twilight lineup will consist of Moore, Judd, producer Sanford Parker, Stavros Giannopoulos from the Atlas Moth, Wrest of Leviathan, and Imperial from Krieg

i ams cannot believe that skwisgaar was unavailable to participate

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aw man if i knew that i'd have totally talked d&d w/ them :-(

to my ears they also sounded like a looser bluesier helmet at times and also at times like sepultura

Paradise Lost To Release Six Album Reissues
Out August 24th On The End Records

DRACONIAN TIMES: LEGACY EDITION
- Legacy Edition includes liner notes, 7 bonus tracks plus DVD with 5.1 mix of the full album.

SHADES OF GOD
- Shades Of God begins to integrate clean melodies & quieter passages that mark the band’s transition
in sound, including “As I Die,” known as the hymn for Paradise Lost fans
- Contains liner notes plus 2 exclusive bonus tracks ICON
- Distinct stylistic change from doom to gothic metal, solidifying this subgenre in mainstream metal
- Critically acclaimed, breakthrough 4th studio album
- Contains liner notes plus 2 exclusive bonus tracks

ONE SECOND
- Cracking the German & Swedish Top 10 Charts, this album opened the band up to a brand new fan base
- Contains liner notes plus 2 exclusive bonus tracks
- Band’s first complete departure from death/doom metal in favor of gothic rock and dark synthpop

REFLECTION: BEST OF
- 1998’s “best-of” compilation, chronicling their already-impressive 6-album career
- Contains liner notes plus 3 live bonus tracks, including the iconic “As I Die”

EVOLVE: LIVE
- DVD of 2 live concert performances, 9 rare promo videos, and home videos, over 2 & a half hours
- Live performances from The Longhorn in Stuttgart, September 5th,1993 and Shepherd’s Bush Empire, London, 26th January 1998

I know I am a real oddball here, but "Shades Of God" is my favorite Paradise Lost album.

It's not too surprising if you consider that I am a sucker for transitional albums and that it came out at a time when I was just starting to listen to music critically (as in, for criticism purposes); for whatever reason, if I make a list of my favorite albums, a lot of them reside in the early to mid '90s.

I recall some people have "Icon" as a guilty pleasure though I never got into that album.

I was surprised that "Shades" has been out of print for as long as it has been.

Jon I think it would be a shame if you quit this thread. I enjoy your posts plus you're on of the few who actually checks out stuff I recommend and likes it!

Jess & The Ancient Ones album is GREAT. I ordered it today from svart. Postage is killer from Finland but the albums worth it.

I have Icon on vinyl. It's great, along with Gothic. After that, I've never had any love for Paradise Lost. Not saying they suck, just that it never reached me.

As for Twilight, here's Blake Judd in the Rolling Stone interview, lol.

"You know Century Media could offer us $100,000 to make that Twilight record and say: 'Blake, you get ninety percent of that money but Thurston Moore’s not gonna be on the record, or, you can be on it and we’ll give you 10 grand and that’s what you have to make it work.' And I would, I would take the 10 grand and work with Thurston. That’s like how much I love Sonic Youth."

stoked you love that Jess & the Ancient Ones record AG - I haven't loved a record like that in a long time

also, y'know, it kinda stings a little to get that kind of response from a poster you really like and respect.

wtf dude it's just a fuckin' joke & it's well known that I'm a cranky purist. I am the Dr. Morbius of the metal thread, it's cool, I got love for everybody & no metal thread should be without somebody scratching "if you are a false, don't entry" into his desk while muttering under his breath

Yeah I really didn't read your post as asshole-ish. Also, I would totally believe that you are starting a rap supergroup.

ok but if you believe I would do so w/Sufjan then you and I have beef

fwiw, as i apparently did a bad job of explaining last night, i didn't think it was "asshole-ish" or that it was some kind of personal attack. it was just like the typical internet thing where i get excited about something and literally the next thing i see is someone shitting on it. i'm just tired of the internet constantly breeding cynicism and negativity and i think that post just kinda bore the ire of it last night. i'm really trying to be less earnest, less positive and less excited about things and more cynical and joyless like the rest of the internet tho.

jon chill out we like you and i like your enthusiasm. (ps go nominate some stuff in the poll!)

Whoa, I didn't realize Nachtmystium guy is part of this Twilight business. I'm excited too now (even though tbh I haven't really given a shit about any SY since Nurse).

Jon - if you want enthusiasm, ask me about Rush.

J0hn - we have beef!

New Evoken cd arrived in the mail today. I pity the weaklings who don't appreciate funeral doom when it's done well.