THOUGHT EXPERIMENT: ABOLISH OFFSIDES

who is futbol's Jeff van gundy

ya i watched an mls game the other day an i was impressed w/the enthusiasm and number of fans, but i still think itd be better if it went crazy

btw why is the olympics 23 and under expect 3 guys, thats really strange

compromise to amateurism of olympics while still trying to have some ppl who can play soccer

but none of the other sports do that

nba is considering it

football is easily the best sport in the world, doesnt need rule changes

this is pathetic btw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJEnwi7otu0

ya IMO that's fucking dumb
didn't you gits learn anything about THE DREM TEAM

i kinda think MLS should abolish offsides and change some other rules because thatd be an awesome disrespectful american thing to do, and i mean why not before you just have another second rate league, now you have a crazy second rate league thats a laboratory for the rest of the world and everyone has opinons abt it

― lag∞n, Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:47 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i like this

if it were the full teams it might draw too much attention away from the other stuff

David stern doesn't want his precious toys to be opened and become near-mint condition

Olympics should be, as a rule, dopest players v dopest players

football is easily the best sport in the world, doesnt need rule changes

― moullet, Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:54 PM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

even if its the best, doesnt mean it cant be improved, thinking otherwise is a setup for DOWNFALL

tbh it would be hard to gaf about olympic soccer if there were no restrictions. with something like basketball it is p much your only chance to roll out a national side, so i can understand the appeal more.

ya but if it really is the dopest soccer players then you basically have the world cup on top of the olympics

even if there were no restrictions

besides, U23 wd mean Michael Jordan can't declare Tunisian citizenship and have one more go in 2016

every sport could use some tweaks, most of my problems with soccer are w/ the ridiculous amount of flopping but i understand it is like bit even cool to bring this up

that was an xp to m bison xp to rs

yeah mine was an xp to myself

bit = not

abolish XPs

tbh it would be hard to gaf about olympic soccer if there were no restrictions. with something like basketball it is p much your only chance to roll out a national side, so i can understand the appeal more.

― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:56 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

basketball actually has a world cup tournament every four years that apparently everyone save the usa takes more seriously than the olympics

ya but if it really is the dopest soccer players then you basically have the world cup on top of the olympics

― iatee, Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:56 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this would be awesome tho, and tbf its a mini world cup cause half as many teams

ya but think of the synchronized swimmers, who is gonna watch them when they're on at the same time as brazil vs spain

xps oh lol, who knew? don't they do something like that with baseball too, between PR, DR and Japan?

already have the euro during olympic years

world baseball classic, coming this march

it is a joek

basketball world cup is p sweet tho obvs itd be better if the usa wasnt so superior to everyone else, tho they have due to a combination of single elimination format, international rules, top players opting out, and bad officiating actually lost a couple times

top players have pretty busy schedules with their clubs in all these sports. i can see getting up for an olympics or world cup every four years, but fuck a davis cup

leave the davis cup for tennis or golf or whatever

sports where both teams rack up big scores have other pleasures but the act of scoring itself is diminished in them imo

that's why i like basketball, because scoring itself is often (like every few points) extremely entertaining, involving dunks, layups, fakes, etc

itd just be school yard soccer

strikes me as correct OR you could just watch indoor soccer and see what you think of that

lol it would resemble neither, how ridiculous

its like saying the only thing separating the nba from a pick up game is the three second rule

you can play zone d in the nba now; that's the only thing separating it from pickup

wtf did ILF turn into bigsoccer

i'm not suggesting it'd be indoor soccer (cause it's not indoors and the ball doesn't bounce off walls and it's not played like five per side) just that maybe indoor soccer is something to think about (cf NV bringing up hockey)

actually doesn't hockey have an offsides rule too, isn't that what "icing" is?

icing is different from offsides

could we have a thread about promotion/relegation in MLS next plz

xp offside in hockey is the exact same concept except the blue line is the threshold instead of the last defender.

I've never really understood icing

obv we should have relegation in every American sport, it's the most ruthless concept, I love it

icing is basically to prevent one team from wasting tons of time by firing the puck all the way into the opponent's end repeatedly

ok they call that offside or they call that icing, dan?

i thought icing was intentionally firing the puck past "the blue line" so that your dude could zip up there and technically not be offside?

ah i didn't realize it was a time-wasting / defensive tactic

i don't watch hockey, i feel like i can't ever see the puck

icing is firing the puck from your half of the ice to beyond the other extended goal line -- generally because your team is under pressure and you're just haphazardly trying to relieve it

the puck must enter the offensive zone (at the blue line) before any offensive players or it is offside

(there also used to be an offside aka two-line pass, but that is currently legal)

Where are all my ilf homies? What sport are you talking about? Who even are you guys?

Trying to imagine what would happen: I can't recall exactly why the rule was introduced, but it (eventually, after about fifty years) had the very odd unintended consequence that the effective field-of-play moves around the actual field-of-play based on where the defenders are positioned. So play gets compressed into a much tighter area (benefitting quick-thinking, quick-footed players) with a gap behind them that you need expert timing to attack.

So if the rule were abolished, the following would probably happen:

• defenders would sit deeper to close off the vulnerable area behind them
• making the effective field-of-play much bigger
• meaning less skilful players would prosper
• probably meaning faster and stronger guys, because there'd be more loose balls to tackle for, and more space to chase into

It'd be shit.

we could definitely use a klata scale for other sports btw

What they should do is just play the entire match, no VAR at all, then after the match they VAR the whole thing and tell you what the official final score is

― Dinglebert Humperstink (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:49 (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

love this tbh

the thing is

weve seen absolutely bullshit calls under var since the start, from deciding not to review to deciding not to call the ref over to the ref deciding not to change decision

weve seen clearly offside players and lines that are almost comicallydrawn to get the goal to stand, handballs that were never handballs before and blatant handballs not called

not to turn it partisan but the same clubs get calls from cunt refs and the only thing var has changed is that its more of a disgrace

junk it altogether at this stage

yes so many wrong decisions but the main problem for me is that they started from the assumption that the more 'correct' decisions you get per match no matter what that does to the flow of the game the 'better' it is for the sport. var has made watching football worse imo.

to go back to the original post about scrapping offside my answer would be no because one of the most thrilling things in football is the perfectly timed run/pass to beat offside and leave a one-on-one with the goalie and if you don't enjoy that then maybe football isn't the sport for you.

maybe its not for you

p sure it is but you do you

maybe that expression isnt for you