THOUGHT EXPERIMENT: ABOLISH OFFSIDES

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haha xp

lag∞n, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

i kinda think MLS should abolish offsides and change some other rules because thatd be an awesome disrespectful american thing to do, and i mean why not before you just have another second rate league, now you have a crazy second rate league thats a laboratory for the rest of the world and everyone has opinons abt it

lag∞n, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

joe, prophet of d∞m

electric point-electric counterpoint (m bison), Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

MLS is doing ok for a teenaged soccer league

electric point-electric counterpoint (m bison), Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

#footieconcepts

lag∞n, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

who is futbol's Jeff van gundy

electric point-electric counterpoint (m bison), Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

ya i watched an mls game the other day an i was impressed w/the enthusiasm and number of fans, but i still think itd be better if it went crazy

lag∞n, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

btw why is the olympics 23 and under expect 3 guys, thats really strange

lag∞n, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

compromise to amateurism of olympics while still trying to have some ppl who can play soccer

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

but none of the other sports do that

lag∞n, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

nba is considering it

mookieproof, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

football is easily the best sport in the world, doesnt need rule changes

this is pathetic btw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJEnwi7otu0

moullet, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

ya IMO that's fucking dumb
didn't you gits learn anything about THE DREM TEAM

electric point-electric counterpoint (m bison), Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

i kinda think MLS should abolish offsides and change some other rules because thatd be an awesome disrespectful american thing to do, and i mean why not before you just have another second rate league, now you have a crazy second rate league thats a laboratory for the rest of the world and everyone has opinons abt it

― lag∞n, Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:47 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i like this

Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

if it were the full teams it might draw too much attention away from the other stuff

iatee, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

David stern doesn't want his precious toys to be opened and become near-mint condition

electric point-electric counterpoint (m bison), Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

Olympics should be, as a rule, dopest players v dopest players

electric point-electric counterpoint (m bison), Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

football is easily the best sport in the world, doesnt need rule changes

― moullet, Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:54 PM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

even if its the best, doesnt mean it cant be improved, thinking otherwise is a setup for DOWNFALL

lag∞n, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link

tbh it would be hard to gaf about olympic soccer if there were no restrictions. with something like basketball it is p much your only chance to roll out a national side, so i can understand the appeal more.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link

ya but if it really is the dopest soccer players then you basically have the world cup on top of the olympics

iatee, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link

even if there were no restrictions

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link

besides, U23 wd mean Michael Jordan can't declare Tunisian citizenship and have one more go in 2016

electric point-electric counterpoint (m bison), Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

every sport could use some tweaks, most of my problems with soccer are w/ the ridiculous amount of flopping but i understand it is like bit even cool to bring this up

Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

that was an xp to m bison xp to rs

iatee, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

yeah mine was an xp to myself

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

bit = not

Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

abolish XPs

electric point-electric counterpoint (m bison), Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

tbh it would be hard to gaf about olympic soccer if there were no restrictions. with something like basketball it is p much your only chance to roll out a national side, so i can understand the appeal more.

― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:56 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

basketball actually has a world cup tournament every four years that apparently everyone save the usa takes more seriously than the olympics

lag∞n, Sunday, 29 July 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link

ya but if it really is the dopest soccer players then you basically have the world cup on top of the olympics

― iatee, Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:56 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this would be awesome tho, and tbf its a mini world cup cause half as many teams

lag∞n, Sunday, 29 July 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link

ya but think of the synchronized swimmers, who is gonna watch them when they're on at the same time as brazil vs spain

iatee, Sunday, 29 July 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

xps oh lol, who knew? don't they do something like that with baseball too, between PR, DR and Japan?

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 29 July 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

already have the euro during olympic years

mookieproof, Sunday, 29 July 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

world baseball classic, coming this march

mookieproof, Sunday, 29 July 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

it is a joek

mookieproof, Sunday, 29 July 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

basketball world cup is p sweet tho obvs itd be better if the usa wasnt so superior to everyone else, tho they have due to a combination of single elimination format, international rules, top players opting out, and bad officiating actually lost a couple times

lag∞n, Sunday, 29 July 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

top players have pretty busy schedules with their clubs in all these sports. i can see getting up for an olympics or world cup every four years, but fuck a davis cup

mookieproof, Sunday, 29 July 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

leave the davis cup for tennis or golf or whatever

electric point-electric counterpoint (m bison), Sunday, 29 July 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

sports where both teams rack up big scores have other pleasures but the act of scoring itself is diminished in them imo

that's why i like basketball, because scoring itself is often (like every few points) extremely entertaining, involving dunks, layups, fakes, etc

itd just be school yard soccer

strikes me as correct OR you could just watch indoor soccer and see what you think of that

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

lol it would resemble neither, how ridiculous

lag∞n, Sunday, 29 July 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

its like saying the only thing separating the nba from a pick up game is the three second rule

lag∞n, Sunday, 29 July 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

you can play zone d in the nba now; that's the only thing separating it from pickup

mookieproof, Sunday, 29 July 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

wtf did ILF turn into bigsoccer

DX Dx DX (dan m), Sunday, 29 July 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not suggesting it'd be indoor soccer (cause it's not indoors and the ball doesn't bounce off walls and it's not played like five per side) just that maybe indoor soccer is something to think about (cf NV bringing up hockey)

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

actually doesn't hockey have an offsides rule too, isn't that what "icing" is?

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

icing is different from offsides

mookieproof, Sunday, 29 July 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

could we have a thread about promotion/relegation in MLS next plz

xp offside in hockey is the exact same concept except the blue line is the threshold instead of the last defender.

DX Dx DX (dan m), Sunday, 29 July 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

I've never really understood icing

obv we should have relegation in every American sport, it's the most ruthless concept, I love it

catbus otm (gbx), Sunday, 29 July 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

icing is basically to prevent one team from wasting tons of time by firing the puck all the way into the opponent's end repeatedly

DX Dx DX (dan m), Sunday, 29 July 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

ok they call that offside or they call that icing, dan?

i thought icing was intentionally firing the puck past "the blue line" so that your dude could zip up there and technically not be offside?

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

ah i didn't realize it was a time-wasting / defensive tactic

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

The line drawing is nonsense. If we must have var then they should show the var people a freeze frame of the moment the pass is made and the attacker and last defender, if they can't tell from that picture if the player is offside or not then the goal stands. Mostly they won't be able to tell and we'll be back to the pre var days of level is onside advantage to the attacker

oscar bravo, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:48 (seven months ago) link

What they should do is just play the entire match, no VAR at all, then after the match they VAR the whole thing and tell you what the official final score is

Dinglebert Humperstink (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:49 (seven months ago) link

People always say "you will have a problem with this until it's your team benefitting from it" and it's like "well sure if we're gonna be fucked by it it's only fair we have some go out way too" but that doesn't mean I enjoy it.

Getting bailed out by VAR for something like that always cheapens victories for me as a fan and ruins the viewing experience even more as a neutral spectator.

I don't mind VAR for PKs and red card offenses but even then they shouldn't be allowed to frame by frame

Dinglebert Humperstink (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:56 (seven months ago) link

Do they do this at non-sports jobs?

"You are appealing being fired for smoking on company grounds. We reviewed the security footage with an independent auditor and on frame by frame advance you can see your left foot was inside company grounds.

Your termination is upheld

Dinglebert Humperstink (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:58 (seven months ago) link

it's still mad shit that Dixie Dean managed to score 60 goals in 39 games in the offside rule era.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:58 (seven months ago) link

What they should do is just play the entire match, no VAR at all, then after the match they VAR the whole thing and tell you what the official final score is

― Dinglebert Humperstink (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:49 (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

love this tbh

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 22:12 (seven months ago) link

the thing is

weve seen absolutely bullshit calls under var since the start, from deciding not to review to deciding not to call the ref over to the ref deciding not to change decision

weve seen clearly offside players and lines that are almost comicallydrawn to get the goal to stand, handballs that were never handballs before and blatant handballs not called

not to turn it partisan but the same clubs get calls from cunt refs and the only thing var has changed is that its more of a disgrace

junk it altogether at this stage

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 22:16 (seven months ago) link

yes so many wrong decisions but the main problem for me is that they started from the assumption that the more 'correct' decisions you get per match no matter what that does to the flow of the game the 'better' it is for the sport. var has made watching football worse imo.

to go back to the original post about scrapping offside my answer would be no because one of the most thrilling things in football is the perfectly timed run/pass to beat offside and leave a one-on-one with the goalie and if you don't enjoy that then maybe football isn't the sport for you.

oscar bravo, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 06:13 (seven months ago) link

maybe its not for you

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 06:16 (seven months ago) link

p sure it is but you do you

oscar bravo, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 06:36 (seven months ago) link

maybe that expression isnt for you

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 06:41 (seven months ago) link


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