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i get why people are using the word "sad" to describe miguel but i dunno if it's the most accurate - it has connotations of inward-facing timidity and moping to me, but the best of miguel's work this year is just so...full-blooded and cathartic and really physical, it's as much about frustration and anger as melancholy, and there's a lot at stake in his songs. i'm suspicious of fetishisation-of-melancholy in general and i think this is a different thing.

Great post, Lex. I totally hear the frustration.

Evan R, Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

damnit I thought we had lex so close to fetishizing melancholy

smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

Late to the party but "Use Me" and "Don't Look Back" are just so... damn miguel how have you made so many of my favourite songs this year already.

Tim F, Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link

xp This is probably the part of Lex's "indie is ruining everything" conspiracy theory that I agree with the most. Melancholy is too often mistaken for substance, and I would hate to see it become a rampant empty signifier in R&B the way it did in indie rock. (That being said, I do obviously love it when it's done right)

Evan R, Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link

these new tracks are definitely mastered way grungier right

there's certainly a density to them but i thought everything sounded pretty clear.

the guitars are kinda 90s rock tho.

buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 29 July 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

the guitars are kinda 90s rock tho.

what with wynter gordon too, we just need one more for a TRENDPIECE

lex pretend, Sunday, 29 July 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link

yearning urgency is exactly right btw re: miguel

melancholy implies a sort of resignation - you've given up - that's not present in miguel's work

lex pretend, Sunday, 29 July 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah "resignation" is where melancholy starts to become indie. Perhaps a sense of (self)alienation too.

Neither of which Miguel does really.

Tim F, Sunday, 29 July 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

he just wants a quickie iirc

Nutri Grane (some dude), Sunday, 29 July 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

Actually arguably "Broads" is resigned.

Tim F, Sunday, 29 July 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

I cannot get over the depth of this stuff.

I want to see the waveforms when we finally get high quality versions, because (just based on my ears) this feels like a perfect opportunity to contrast tracks with lots of layers that have been recorded and mixed properly vs. stuff like My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy which is just overstuffed and overcompressed etc.

Like, 'Use Me' is the kind of song that could be a total mess sonically if it wasn't so impeccably put together. That round at the end! over top of the guitar strum!

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 29 July 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

He still pals around with west coast hippies! Jhene, Thundercat, FlyLo, J Davey, etc...

This list is like my ultimate wkiw (esp if it includes Miguel)

Anyways way late to this party but glad I made it

seapluspluspunk (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 30 July 2012 04:53 (eleven years ago) link

It occurs to me that part of what makes "Adorn" so special is where in most r&b songs you have a static chorus with ad libs over the top, here the chorus is single-tracked and there's this tension where he has to find this balance between embellishing and carrying the melody. Does he toe the line? No, HE GOES ALL THE WAY FUCKING IN.

The Reverend, Monday, 30 July 2012 05:01 (eleven years ago) link

I might be wrong but I don't feel like there's much of a distinction really between the verses & chorus, and that the choice between 'toeing the line' and 'going all the way fucking in' as you put it, is kind of the main demarcation between the two. That and the short running time of the orig version (I haven't listened to the single edit yet) maybe gives it a sort of sinuous slipperiness where you can feel like lots of stuff is happening but you can't quite get a handle on it--or at least I can't. Which is one of the things that compels me to listen to it again and again.

seapluspluspunk (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 30 July 2012 05:46 (eleven years ago) link

you need to listen to the single version

now there's a lot of bad bitches in the building (am0n) (some dude), Monday, 30 July 2012 10:58 (eleven years ago) link

...to know what Rev is really talking about. Ok yeah, listened and got it.

seapluspluspunk (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 30 July 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, that element existed in the ADC version, but it wasn't til the single version that it was made really clear.

The Reverend, Monday, 30 July 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

i just realized that miguel wrote this which totally makes sense in light of the adc shit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye-cmRfwFxM

i'm a housewife, an artist, and a snow leopard (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 01:58 (eleven years ago) link

WAIT REALLY? HOW DID I NOT KNOW THAT??

man i love that song. also shame he didn't do more work w/ jam & lewis.

buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:33 (eleven years ago) link

is he playing ny tomorrow? little google bird told me he might be

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:41 (eleven years ago) link

that SPIN post said they're gonna have a video of a performance from a "secret live show" on wednesday morning, so yeah he's prob playing somewhere tomorrow night

buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:44 (eleven years ago) link

he's also playing PS1 w/ jamie xx & pearson sound on 8/4

buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:44 (eleven years ago) link

WATER PREVIEW also available on itunes now

buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:49 (eleven years ago) link

he's also playing PS1 w/ jamie xx & pearson sound on 8/4

holy shit

The Reverend, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:53 (eleven years ago) link

right?

buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:54 (eleven years ago) link

It's not on the Australian iTunes. I'm distraught.

Popture, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link

http://youtu.be/8dM5QYdTo08

Video is out though.

Popture, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link

weird

buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

yahhh

The Reverend, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

Cool

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

Shot in Los Angeles and directed by Jason Beattie(Steve Aoki, Mike Posner, Good Charlotte), features Miguel in a moody underworld searching for a mythical, unattainable woman.

tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link

lol, whatever. i preferred just staring at his face, obviously.

but he looks ~fine~ here also, so it's all good.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

he sure wears makeup well

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

his getup is a bit too Bruno Mars

REV LION (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

Rev, didn't you once have a similar haircut?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

xp yeah, but I never paired it with a retro teddy boy suit

REV LION (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

so nice hearing this on the radio

Jacques_Lamure, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

i think i'm talking to him tomorrow fyi if u want to get any questions in

lex pretend, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

Friday August 3rd Line-up
The-Dream
Miguel
at the Ohio State Fair

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

WAIT WHAT

tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

i think i'm talking to him tomorrow fyi if u want to get any questions in

― lex pretend, Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:38 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Tell him your friend Rodney has a thing for him and would like his number.

REV LION (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

Friday August 3rd Line-up
The-Dream
Miguel
at the Ohio State Fair

― curmudgeon, Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:38 PM (16 minutes ago)

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Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

Rev, if we cannot work out a way to timeshare Miguel's phone number/affections, our friendship may be hitting a speed bump.

Can I take every other weekend?

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

Also, excuse me while I google how long a drive it is from Montreal to Ohio.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

It is only 12 hours! Um. Hm. Probably not.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

threesomes

REV LION (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

haha. deal.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

ok, also, calling this "Kaleidoscope Dream: The Water Preview" looks ridiculous. Is it less silly to call it "Kaleidoscope Dream: Water" or "Kaleidoscope Dream: The Water" or what?

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

I'd rather call this an orgy.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link


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