Why does black people never want to rock?

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you won't be so young and pretty forever dom

M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

<i>Mick Collins has never, in my knowledge ‘rocked’.

-- Mr. Goodman, Wednesday, September 19, 2007 12:12 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Link</i>

^wack

M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

lol mr. wrongman is more like it

pretzel walrus, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 18:49 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/143/398587904_aac3e86bd4.jpg

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link

waht

HI DERE, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Why does Greek people never want to make sense.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

lookin good, Hitler

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 21:26 (sixteen years ago) link

is that an ad for the new will ferrell movie

deej, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:06 (sixteen years ago) link

It's the ad for the lost Chaplin classic, POOTIE TRAMP.

Terrible Cold, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link

You need to find out who MICK COLLINS is.

-- http://gygax.pitas.com, Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:00 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark Link

ian, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.frontline.org.za/images/zz010.jpg

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:49 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.killedthat.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/crunkrock.jpg

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:49 (sixteen years ago) link

My wife initially thought "Black Country Rock" was about black country-rock.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 28 February 2008 03:28 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...

OFRA HAZA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 06:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Whoa, this thread. o_O I didn't read much, but wtf. Just some trolling?

RabiesAngentleman, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 07:38 (fifteen years ago) link

A lot of bullshit here, but this post actually makes a lot of sense.

no one's mentioned PHIL FUCKING LINNOT of Thin Lizzy. But the list of black rock musicians would be near endless... the real question is why isn't "rock" marketed to black people, and why the continual ghetto-ization of genres into "this music is for black people" and "this music is for white people" still exists. It's very blatant. Go to any record store - 99% of the black artists are in "r&b/hip hop" and 99% of the white artists are in "rock". Total bullshit - the division is an artificial one perpetuated by racist marketing.

Surely there's an element of racism in the marketing. I mean, why are Lionel Richie and Seal R&B/soul while George Michael and Hall & Oates are not?

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 09:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Blue eyed SOUL. There's a clue in the name.

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 09:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Imagine if Mark Hammill had a intense thang for soul music.
"Use the Funk, Luke! Feel the Funk Flowing Through You!"

-- Lord Custos III, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (6 years ago) Bookmark Link

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 09:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Blue eyed SOUL. There's a clue in the name.

It seems "blue eyed" is the clue that causes the shops to classify them as "rock & pop" rather than "soul/R&B"

Of course the lack of logic here is not race-related only. What is it that makes most record stores categorize the entire Jackson family as pop/rock, but hardly any other black acts other than Hendrix/Kravitz etc, for instance?

And the lack of logic when it comes to what is hard rock and what is not is even more laughable. One record store chain here classifies Flower Kings and Spock's Beard as hard rock/metal while Led Zeppelin are not.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 09:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Together we made it (you see we did it niggaz!)
We made it even though we had our backs up against the wall (c'mon)
Forever we waited {ha ha!}
And they told us we were never gonna get it
But we took it on the road (to the riches) on the road (to the ghetto)
On the rooooad (and the projects to this bangin instrumental)
On the road (ride with me) on the road (we come and get it)
On the rooooad (yeah, yeah, yeah!)

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 09:27 (fifteen years ago) link

OFRA HAZA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

??? Ofra Haza is neither black nor rock.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 09:37 (fifteen years ago) link

i like that so many posters immediate reaction to the first post was "indies not rock"

max, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 10:24 (fifteen years ago) link

no wait i dont like that at all

max, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 10:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah the embarrassment here wasn't only on the thread poster's hands. Between that and like, "wtf dude, Chuck Berry!" or whatever (when the question was directly regarding hiphop / indie rock) ILM's got a little slack to tend to. Only skimmed it, maybe there was more.

cue copy/paste of me being an idiot/loon someplace, I know it's happened.

RabiesAngentleman, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 10:42 (fifteen years ago) link

black people never want to cause rock interferes with bluetooth http://i36.tinypic.com/6oood3.jpg

ice crӕm, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:26 (fifteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

it's largely cultural.

Mike Crandle, Financial Analyst, Bear Stearns, New York, NY 10185 (res), Friday, 3 July 2009 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Why does whitey never on the moon?

a ho (The Reverend), Friday, 3 July 2009 01:10 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I recently received the first Nona Hendryx album, which I kind of ordered by mistake (I thought it was "Nona" from 1983 that was rereleased, and didn't realize it was her debut until I had already ordered it).

The content surprised me though. Here is a black female soul singer who used to be in Labelle, recording a new wave-ish rock album as her solo debut. "Nona" would be more traditional soul music (and a great example of that), but this album is actually not at all bad, a fully fledge rock album, only sung with a soulful R&B voice.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link

you're on the wrong thread, but of course you would revive this

Nona Hendryx (produced by Tangerine Dream's Peter Bauman)'s "Skindiver". for fans of kate bush, peter gabriel or david sylvian

sleeve, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link

oh god, this thread.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

omg the fine art of thread revive as self-parody

MMLLLARRRFF (jjjusten), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

hey, i'm a black girl but i really do love rock music and i felt kinda bad about until I read some of things you wrote so thanks and I realaized that hey! music is music , if you like it you like it
― me, Tuesday, March 16, 2004 11:42 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark

This is the best post in the entire thread.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Quit reviving this shit, yo

Morley Timmons, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Son House
Robert Johnson
Muddy Waters
Willie Dixon
John Lee Hooker
Howlin' Wolf
Elmore James
Ike Turner
Little Richard
Chuck Berry

equals invented rock & roll

nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I think maybe the question implied the word "anymore" at the end of it.

Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Geir made a comment upthread about Hall & Oates and the like. I remember the early 80s where, depending on where you shopped, you could find so-called "blue-eyed soul" filed under soul / r & b.

Remember the Dayne! (u s steel), Thursday, 14 October 2010 10:21 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Why doesn't white indie rock kids want to country music?

Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

they did in the 90s

in my world of Hmong ppl (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

um yeah have you heard of this band, I think they're called Wilco

twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Palace Bros

twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Cass McCoombs

twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link

"y'allternative"

twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.nodepression.com/

twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.mariobalotelli.it/en

No Wicked Heart Shall Prosper.rar (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Alt-country, huh? Someone link me to where pitchfork reviewed a Garth Brooks or Randy Travis album.

Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I think there's an interesting cultural conundrum buried in here somewhere. Top 40 music in other genres has crossed over to the indie set, but not Top 40 country music. Why not?

Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link


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