Hold Me is an okay song, but top ten? idgi
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
"Hold Me" is so amazing... Great to see it and other Mirage tracks getting some love here ("Book of Love", "Gypsy")... these three songs are as great as any of their earlier work. The Hold Me demo sounds like it could be on 1975 s/t and then the final version is so much more minimal and lush.
― queequeg (peter grasswich), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
I like the song Tusk, but why "tusk"? What's the tusking about.
― how's life, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
"Hold Me" = ok"Hold Me" The Arrangement = mind-boggling
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
x-post
The reason behind the title of Tusk is actually something I've never known...
― Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
There's at least three different guitar lines running through the last minute, topped off by that magnificent, unexpected Fleetwood drum roll.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
#14: "Silver Springs" (Stevie Nicks, 1977) - 354 points, 15 votes
WTFFFFFFFFFF
if it were actually on rumours it would've been top 5
in my dreams
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
> But less of one than "Gold Dust Woman" or "Silver Springs" (both of which are actually on my most recent "Breakup Songs" iPod playlist)
> ― Lee626, Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:35 AM
oh i dunno about that. the first verse nails the plain sense in what it is to be alone, again, that the more oppositional stuff can't touch. the truth of a self in the absence of an alter. the real things that remain when the shared fantasy melts away - a room, a floor, some lace and paper flowers. or something like that.
ok kinda getting it now....
your breakups must have been alot simpler and less traumatic than mine.....
― Lee626, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
penguins don't have tusks. nor do dogs.
― how's life, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
the obtuse, inscrutable title (the perennial jester Mick Fleetwood's l'il joke, 'tusk' being his personal slang for the male sex organ)
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
35 years ago, they should've taken into account when deciding whether or not to include it how it would place in our 2012 poll. THE FOOLS! xps
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
Thank you Stevie Nicks for immortalizing my hometown of Silver Spring, Maryland in song! (the song has nothing whatsoever to do with the town, but it is indeed named for it).
― Lee626, Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:30 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I FORGOT ABOUT THIS. that she saw a sign for silver spring. i'm going to be driving there in an hour looool (it gets in my head every time)
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
#6: "The Chain" (L. Buckingham, M. Fleetwood, C. McVie, J. McVie, S. Nicks, 1977) - 544 points, 22 votes, 2 number one votes
http://i43.tinypic.com/a5ylu.jpg
Track link: http://i43.tinypic.com/a5ylu.jpg
― Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
xp If they had to cut one song to make space on Rumours, it should have been "Oh Daddy" instead of "Silver Springs"
― Lee626, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
Yay! My number one.
Also, TOO LOW.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
seriously SHAME ON ILX silver spring is the best, maybe the saddest song ever written. stevie's voice in this song, dear jesus.
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
Most of John McVie's "simple" bass lines are really incredibly difficult to play: his one super famous "YEAH! DUDE RULES!" bass moment, the one in The Chain, is something anyone could play within ten minutes of picking up a bass for the first time.
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
Silver Springs was a b-side for most of its life, but the way it got launched into the limelight in 1997 and was subsequently added back on to the Rumours running order makes not being familiar with it a fairly weak excuse. Yet, people...even those voting in this poll...are hearing it for the first time today. Weird.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
― Lee626, Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:17 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i still don't see how it didn't fit in the first place! there'd be a minute to spare if they kept it.
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
Johnny Fever would make a fearsome boss
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
I have always loved how the chorus is this cascade of evaporating voices, accompanied by the basso "come on and..." underneath.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
Cannot deal with "Tusk" and cannot believe it is in the top ten. Also, how is "The Chain" not in the top three???
― JessFlip, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
Hold Me has some really amazing deliberately out-of-tune guitar in it.
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
<i> Also, how is "The Chain" not in the top three???</i>
I'M SAYIN'!!!!!
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
Well, 4 of my top 5 are going to be in the top 5. Squarely in the canon camp, I am.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
This won't give too much away, but the #3 song actually got fewer total votes than "The Chain"! If that placates y'all at all...
― Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
I heard "Silver Springs" on the radio several times even way back in '77. The first time I heard it the DJ announced it beforehand and I thought Fleetwood Mac couldn't about Silver Spring and assumed it was a coincidence, and the opening lyric convinced me I was right. I only later learned the name did indeed come from Silver Spring, the city.
Stevie Nicks usually says in interviews that she saw a road sign for Silver Spring when she was in Virginia. Silver Spring is in Maryland, a state which borders Virginia although Silver Spring itself is a few miles inward and doesn't itself border Virginia. I keep trying to guess where in Virginia she'd come across a sign giving mileage or directions to Silver Spring - probably traveling eastward on the DC Beltway, or perhaps northward on interstate 95 from Richmond or Alexandria.
― Lee626, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
"The Chain" neatly sums up Rumours in one song
This ruined 'The Chain' for me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z-dJ35fOiM
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
Only one of my top 5 is yet to come (it might be #1, though, so I ain't mad at y'all).
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
― Three Word Username, Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:19 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Interesting point... Doesn't mean it's not perfect ;-)
― Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
I've always maintained that John's bass break in "The Chain" sounds like a Peter Hook bassline...
― Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
guess "Caroline" is gonna miss the countdown? fab song, too bad
― Euler, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
Would love to hear a bootleg of 'Dead Souls' and 'The Chain'.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
Interestingly, we begin our TOP 5 with the first track in the countdown since #13 not to have received any number one votes...
#5: "You Make Loving Fun" (Christine McVie, 1977) - 548 points, 23 votes
http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/vFZMgf6M5KM/0.jpg
Track link: http://youtu.be/vFZMgf6M5KM
― Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
"Doesn't mean it's not perfect"
Yup. That kinda was my point. If there was a witch in Fleetwood Mac, I think it was John.
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
Ha! First comment for Billy's youtube is indeed 'sound's like Joy Division...'
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
intersting
I always remember You Make Loving Fun as such a minor track, until I listen to it and revel in its raditude.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
xp It's not really high up enough on the neck.
― Jeremy Clarkson Sex Face (snoball), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
I just picked up my guitar (since I don't have a bass) and tried playing "The Chain" bass break. Not finding it all that easy. I'm not much of a guitarist or bassist, but I don't think someone who picked up a bass for the first time could play it within 5 minutes
― Lee626, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
Fleetwood Mac and Formula One is a perfect match btw, I've given up fighting it
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
xp silver spring md is invariably the least stevie nicks city ever, tho i don't know what it was like in the 70s. feel immense pride about it tho.
it would've only been a 4 point difference but i wish i made SS my #1
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
It's always sounded more like "Transmission" in vibe/tempo/urgency to me
― Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
Stevie Nicks usually says in interviews that she saw a road sign for Silver Spring when she was in Virginia.
I think on the "Classic Albums" DVD re Rumours, she says they were in Maryland.
She probably could have done something with "Crystal City", come to think of it.
― collardio gelatinous, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
The Chain was my #1, Silver Springs my #2...so I really couldn't have helped it a whole lot. (In fact, Silver Springs is probably my actual #1 irl, but there was some discouraging talk of The Chain in the voting thread and I wanted to give it a bump.)
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
You Make Loving Fun won the Rumours poll. ya?
Love those clavs and the rhodes in unison...
― queequeg (peter grasswich), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link
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― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
xp I've heard her say both Virginia and Maryland, but more often Virginia.
I'm guessing she was traveling through Silver Spring en route to the Capital Centre in Largo, Maryland on the '75-76 tour.
― Lee626, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i was actually worried Never Going Back Again wasn't going to make the list, wtf me xp
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
Best Song on Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours"How can it be that we have never polled RUMOURS by Fleetwood Mac?!
― queequeg (peter grasswich), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link