You Make Polling Fun: FLEETWOOD MAC POLL RESULTS, ILM Artist Poll #22

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Real Savage Like...

queequeg (peter grasswich), Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

It could've finished anywhere really. But #8 feels about right. It's the song that got me into f mac though, aged 14. "Real savage like", indeed.

Jeff W, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

"Tusk" (the song) always reminds me of The Muppets for some reason, though I can't think of any reason for that.

You are not alone on this: my wife refers to this song as "their Muppets song".

cwkiii, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

JUST TELL ME THAT YOU WANT ME

http://images.wikia.com/muppet/images/4/46/Electricmayhemposter.jpg

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

any time i'm drunk and hear Tusk at a bar or something i think to myself "this is one of the best songs ive ever heard"

diamonddave85, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

Her demos have consistently shown that Buck patronizes her or underrates her melodic sense. Chords are a different story...

yeah he's really an asshole and uncharitable whenever he discusses stevie and christine's songwriting.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

t/f? "Animal" obvs based on Mick Fleetwood, right?

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

do any demos or alternate early versions of tusk exist?

queequeg (peter grasswich), Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

there's a deluxe version with a second CD of alternate takes, mixes, demos, etc.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

They couldn't, could they? If ever there was a studio piece... I know it was born from Lindsey's soundcheck riff, but it's the least jammable song ever.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

#7: "Hold Me" (Christine McVie, 1982) - 535 points, 21 votes, 2 number one votes

http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/12100000/Fleetwood-Mac-fleetwood-mac-12113200-640-417.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/wWdgTraidlU

Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

"Real savage-like" has been tearing out the speakers for me recently - I don't recall noticing it before

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

t/f? "Animal" obvs based on Mick Fleetwood, right?

I'd say Mick Fleetwood + Keith Moon = Animal

cwkiii, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

Back to Tusk, it's about Mick's affair with Stevie, right? Never thought of the Muppets tbqh, I always saw it as a sinister jab at his bandmates.

queequeg (peter grasswich), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

ILX fave "Hold Me"

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

Hold Me is an okay song, but top ten? idgi

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

"Hold Me" is so amazing... Great to see it and other Mirage tracks getting some love here ("Book of Love", "Gypsy")... these three songs are as great as any of their earlier work. The Hold Me demo sounds like it could be on 1975 s/t and then the final version is so much more minimal and lush.

queequeg (peter grasswich), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

I like the song Tusk, but why "tusk"? What's the tusking about.

how's life, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

"Hold Me" = ok
"Hold Me" The Arrangement = mind-boggling

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

x-post

The reason behind the title of Tusk is actually something I've never known...

Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

There's at least three different guitar lines running through the last minute, topped off by that magnificent, unexpected Fleetwood drum roll.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

#14: "Silver Springs" (Stevie Nicks, 1977) - 354 points, 15 votes

WTFFFFFFFFFF

if it were actually on rumours it would've been top 5

in my dreams

NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

> But less of one than "Gold Dust Woman" or "Silver Springs" (both of which are actually on my most recent "Breakup Songs" iPod playlist)

> ― Lee626, Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:35 AM

oh i dunno about that. the first verse nails the plain sense in what it is to be alone, again, that the more oppositional stuff can't touch. the truth of a self in the absence of an alter. the real things that remain when the shared fantasy melts away - a room, a floor, some lace and paper flowers. or something like that.

ok kinda getting it now....

your breakups must have been alot simpler and less traumatic than mine.....

Lee626, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

penguins don't have tusks. nor do dogs.

how's life, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

the obtuse, inscrutable title (the perennial jester Mick Fleetwood's l'il joke, 'tusk' being his personal slang for the male sex organ)

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

35 years ago, they should've taken into account when deciding whether or not to include it how it would place in our 2012 poll. THE FOOLS! xps

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

Thank you Stevie Nicks for immortalizing my hometown of Silver Spring, Maryland in song! (the song has nothing whatsoever to do with the town, but it is indeed named for it).

― Lee626, Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:30 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I FORGOT ABOUT THIS. that she saw a sign for silver spring. i'm going to be driving there in an hour looool (it gets in my head every time)

NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

#6: "The Chain" (L. Buckingham, M. Fleetwood, C. McVie, J. McVie, S. Nicks, 1977) - 544 points, 22 votes, 2 number one votes

http://i43.tinypic.com/a5ylu.jpg

Track link: http://i43.tinypic.com/a5ylu.jpg

Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

xp If they had to cut one song to make space on Rumours, it should have been "Oh Daddy" instead of "Silver Springs"

Lee626, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

Yay! My number one.

Also, TOO LOW.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

seriously SHAME ON ILX silver spring is the best, maybe the saddest song ever written. stevie's voice in this song, dear jesus.

NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

Most of John McVie's "simple" bass lines are really incredibly difficult to play: his one super famous "YEAH! DUDE RULES!" bass moment, the one in The Chain, is something anyone could play within ten minutes of picking up a bass for the first time.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

Silver Springs was a b-side for most of its life, but the way it got launched into the limelight in 1997 and was subsequently added back on to the Rumours running order makes not being familiar with it a fairly weak excuse. Yet, people...even those voting in this poll...are hearing it for the first time today. Weird.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

xp If they had to cut one song to make space on Rumours, it should have been "Oh Daddy" instead of "Silver Springs"

― Lee626, Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:17 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i still don't see how it didn't fit in the first place! there'd be a minute to spare if they kept it.

NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

Johnny Fever would make a fearsome boss

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

"Hold Me" = ok
"Hold Me" The Arrangement = mind-boggling

I have always loved how the chorus is this cascade of evaporating voices, accompanied by the basso "come on and..." underneath.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

Cannot deal with "Tusk" and cannot believe it is in the top ten. Also, how is "The Chain" not in the top three???

JessFlip, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

Hold Me has some really amazing deliberately out-of-tune guitar in it.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

<i> Also, how is "The Chain" not in the top three???</i>

I'M SAYIN'!!!!!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

Well, 4 of my top 5 are going to be in the top 5. Squarely in the canon camp, I am.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

This won't give too much away, but the #3 song actually got fewer total votes than "The Chain"! If that placates y'all at all...

Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

I heard "Silver Springs" on the radio several times even way back in '77. The first time I heard it the DJ announced it beforehand and I thought Fleetwood Mac couldn't about Silver Spring and assumed it was a coincidence, and the opening lyric convinced me I was right. I only later learned the name did indeed come from Silver Spring, the city.

Stevie Nicks usually says in interviews that she saw a road sign for Silver Spring when she was in Virginia. Silver Spring is in Maryland, a state which borders Virginia although Silver Spring itself is a few miles inward and doesn't itself border Virginia. I keep trying to guess where in Virginia she'd come across a sign giving mileage or directions to Silver Spring - probably traveling eastward on the DC Beltway, or perhaps northward on interstate 95 from Richmond or Alexandria.

Lee626, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

"The Chain" neatly sums up Rumours in one song

Lee626, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

This ruined 'The Chain' for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z-dJ35fOiM

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

Only one of my top 5 is yet to come (it might be #1, though, so I ain't mad at y'all).

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

Most of John McVie's "simple" bass lines are really incredibly difficult to play: his one super famous "YEAH! DUDE RULES!" bass moment, the one in The Chain, is something anyone could play within ten minutes of picking up a bass for the first time.

― Three Word Username, Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:19 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Interesting point... Doesn't mean it's not perfect ;-)

Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

I've always maintained that John's bass break in "The Chain" sounds like a Peter Hook bassline...

Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

guess "Caroline" is gonna miss the countdown? fab song, too bad

Euler, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

Would love to hear a bootleg of 'Dead Souls' and 'The Chain'.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

Interestingly, we begin our TOP 5 with the first track in the countdown since #13 not to have received any number one votes...

#5: "You Make Loving Fun" (Christine McVie, 1977) - 548 points, 23 votes

http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/vFZMgf6M5KM/0.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/vFZMgf6M5KM

Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link


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