quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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work a shitty clerical job with access to a copier, hey free copies

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

now THIS is how you end a new york times article:

Now that she has steady work, and her housing is taken care of (her new rent is $500 and she can pay it on her own), she should be feeling less anxious, right?

Wrong. What’s terrifying her these days, she said, is driving on the freeway.

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

technically the van halen generation were baby boomers but they were way cooler than prototypical boomers.

i can't read this blog i'd have to open the whole damn thread...probably not worth it?

scott seward, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

and i can't look at the nyt thing because i don't know how to do the free trick for nyt stories and i don't want to pay for it monthly. i'm disenfranchised.

scott seward, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

have you considered work at a sandwich shop? benefits are excellent

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

...He has met her parents.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

scott the trick is to remove everything after '.html.' in the url, if you want to get slight fancier/faster you can copy the bookmarklet on this page http://marklets.com/NYTClean.aspx into yr bookmark bar and then click on it when the nyt firewall comes up

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

yay, i did it. thanks. now i can stick it to the man. is the profile thing in today's paper?

scott seward, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

okay found that too.

scott seward, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

weird how there's that single paragraph about median rents and median incomes in nyc as if this article is a sociologically relevant case study

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

did one of you guys write this comment:

"OK, I see (at least) two things going on with this article's publication in the Times. First, there's a certain type of parent - and this type of parent devotedly reads the Times - who is desperate, desperate, desperate to "relate" to their kids and what's "going on in their lives". This article is for them. (It's also for the 50-somethings who talk about how "Girls"is seminal TV - wait, what?)

The other thing going on is the old-school Times used to have a huge group of young "creatives" to write about - journalists, authors, book editors/publishers, screenwriters, TV writers, advertising people - who used to really kind of matter in NYC. A Times profile of said person could "make" them; they could dine off it for years. Unfortunately for them, this class of people simply don't hold the influence they used to. But a lot of them now have kids who hoped to follow in their footsteps as "artists" and the parents are doing their best to see that it happens - by whatever means necessary. The result is an Emma Koenig Times profile.

But life's not so much old-boy network anymore and there's a big eclectic world out there which is much less easily impressed by so-called style-setters. I can't say it's been all good - I think the culture has been dumbed-down when there's no vibrant, creative New York on view. But if Ms. Koenig and the other hopelessly wannabe kids profiled in Style (and Books and Movies) over the past few years are the best NYC has to offer...well, bring on Wyoming!"

scott seward, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

did one of you guys write this comment:

"Ah,he trials & travails of a cute upper middle class white girl.

It's almost mind boggling how the upper classes are not only super fascinated with themselves, but are utterly unaware how no one else is. The worst is their complete lack of humility & consciousness of their good fortune.

They are beyond fortunate to have the college education, the connections, health, good looks, and parents who can afford $1200/month in rent for them (even if they nobly did not renovate their kitchen). But do they EVER acknowledge their privileged status? No. Instead, they whine about their lives in what is supposed to be a joking 'funny' fashion, and talk endlessly & emptily about sex, themselves & themselves.

I would SO much more prefer to see features on people who are overcoming actual struggles, real ones, or working to improve our planet-- and, if they do get help from their parents, who are modest about it and acknowledge it. And I don't mean simply being allowed to stay rent free in a home.

Let's have a series of articles on say, oh, a 24 year soldier who is devoting her life to our country, or a 24 year old who becomes a nun, or a 24 year old who volunteers for Peace Corps, or the 24 year old who just plain works hard in underpaid jobs & tries to support their family.

But I guess that's not about the white upper middle classes & it actually has substance & purpose, so it's not interesting to the white upper middle classes"

scott seward, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

23 is the new 10.

scott seward, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7c10wEfdy1qjm1zlo1_400.jpg
Fuck-buddy?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

friend w/benefits is the term, a fuck buddy youre only buddies w/in fucking not life

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

a fwiw girl its not the term or lack there of causing the problem

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

have you ever thought about how many head/heartaches that are caused by the lack of an agreed term (universally, at least)? i'll bet you that it's a lot

you're all going to hello (Z S), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

also what exactly do you think the purpose of a label is

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

"FRIEND"
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"GIRLFRIEND"

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

"RLFRIEND"

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

"I just want to be on the same page" she said choking back tears

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

head/heartaches

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

How about "we're seeing each other" or "we're dating"?

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

it's kind of mind-boggling, I met a 17-year-old living in Taipei with his parents who started a summer educational program for students in rural Taiwan when he was 14 and is now running it with a staff of high schoolers and college kids; comparing him to VW's sister who just got a book deal by being sad and underemployed is kind of disheartening

keeping things contextual (DJP), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

assumed linear progression from 'friend' to 'girlfriend'

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

^the real problem

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

it's kind of mind-boggling, I met a 17-year-old living in Taipei with his parents who started a summer educational program for students in rural Taiwan when he was 14 and is now running it with a staff of high schoolers and college kids; comparing him to VW's sister who just got a book deal by being sad and underemployed is kind of disheartening

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The first generation works their fingers to the bone making things, the next generation goes to college and innovates new ideas, the third generation... snowboards and takes improv classes. --jack donaghy

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

http://toons.artie.com/alphabet/punctuation/arg-qmark-50-trans.gif

am0n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m670nmXDim1qjm1zlo1_400.jpg

kind of want some ukelele band to use this as their album cover so she could be their ray pettibon

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

a nitpick, but I think self-destruct messages usually come with a stronger word than "caution."

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

if i can be serious for a moment: her tumblr is so so so bad

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

like i'm just actually looking at it now and it's terrible

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

there's
NSFW

then there's
NSFL (Life)

Misc. Carnivora (Matt P), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

it's so... whiny

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

everything on the tumblr could be from a "dead inside" line of Hallmark cards

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

loool

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

btw fuck all you haters...*sniff*
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4r80xGKkW1qjm1zlo1_1280.jpg

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2um6gHQvM1qjm1zlo1_1280.jpg

Yeah, stay strong! I know you're going through the hardest thing anyone could possibly imagine right now, but

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

ok wait I get it it's basically chicken soup for the soul. I mean I actually get it, like that's why it's going to be a book and people might buy it.

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

why do i hate people who have these thoughts so much

you're all going to hello (Z S), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

oh well i have to fuckin' hang in there!!!

you're all going to hello (Z S), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

xxxp - my mom told me I should come up with an idea to put on Kickstarter today lol

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

YES, THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE RESENTING, YOUR GOOD FORTUNE. YOUR COMPLETELY COINCIDENTAL, NOT NEPOTISTIC AT ALL, ENTIRELY EARNED BY THE SWEAT OF YOUR CREAMY BROW GOOD FORTUNE.

check the name, no caps, boom, i'm (Laurel), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxz1367Wrw1qjm1zlo1_1280.jpg

Does it ever occur to people like this that being actually genuinely viciously self-critical generally means not putting every thought you ever have on a tumblr?

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

I imagine that talking to her is a soul-sucking experience.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

mixed feelings about kickstarter?

that's why Love made the weirdos (brownie), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

reading this girl's tumblr and listening to shostakovich string quartets at the same time is making me feel like a raging psychopath

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

@thebl0w
I'm sure there is someone who hates me as much as I hate these clueless Brooklyn parents who turn their children into little assholes.
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"i don't think anyone could ever criticize me more severely than the way i viciously criticize myself" is a shitty rip of a lena dunham line also. just fwiw.

, Blogger (schlump), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

i've never wanted to flip over a fucking table so bad as i do right now after skimming this girl's tumblr

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link


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