At what age did you lose your virginity?

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24's really not that awkward imo, it's barely even an outlier in those results up there ^. I'd've said you'd be better 'overcoming' the shyness, or at least working around it. If you feel it's inhibited you, I'm guessing it's also done so in other ways too, so if you work on meeting people more generally you might find you pick up other experiences, the lack of which feels less pressing (and these might in turn lead to getting lucky, who knows?).

And I certainly wouldn't "worry about disclosure, for instance, in hypothetical future relationships" - you don't sound like you're going to be falling into scenarios where that'd seem weird, and anyway all relationships are different and the world is full of shy and inexperienced people. Chances are it'll be far less of a deal for a partner than you might think.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think there's anything weird about being a virgin at 24 either. It's more then never kissed someone thing that makes me think shyness is a big issue here. I assume this also means you've never had a relationship, right?

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

just get a fleshlight

the late great, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

srsly though i think there are scarier and more pleasurable things (in terms of the required trust and level of bonding) in a relationship ... ok tbh maybe only like 3 or 4 things but believe it or not sex w/o those other 3 or 4 things gets boring fast

the late great, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

anyway i think virgins should focus on enjoying that phase of their life, seeing past people as potential sexual partners is key to becoming sexual partners and it's hard to do that if you're stressed about being a virgin

you should take some intense martial arts and unicorn taming classes while you're still a virgin

the late great, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

maybe i should say "successful sexual partners" because obv a lot of people also settle for a sanitized version of the deathdrone approach

the late great, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

sex vs. relationships vs. success

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

haven't had much of any of those three lately....

Lee626, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

It is possible to not have had sex and still be happy with your life. As with everything in life, it only becomes a problem if you let it become one. I have better things to do than worry about solitude or virginity. The new Swans album leaked and it's awesome. :-)

StanM, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks for advice. To maybe clarify some things: involuntary celibacy doesn't bother me so much - I do enjoy freedom from relationship/chasing-tail burden - but growing complacency is making this look increasingly like an unecessarily long term thing. Basically, my problem is that I have a really difficult time meeting people and, especially, with maintaining relationships. As a result I have very few friends and hardly make any; at the same time, I've always figured whatever relationships I get into will come about through friendships, friends-of-friends, etc., which has never amounted to anything. I feel like I need to reconsider this strategy and go at it more... directly, I guess? In sum: last september I started an MA with a 36:3 male to female ratio. I mostly jokingly said to myself that if by [now] I'm still a virgin then I'm just going to give up on sexuality. This is like my crossroads ultimatum moment. And yes 24 isn't so bad, but I think it just feels long for someone who was sexually precocious early on (e.g masturbating at 10; more than daily at 12, lol).

EDB, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

I have better things to do
than worry about solitude or virginity.

- Rush, "The Eagle's Eye"

Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

That's female to male ratio. And the other males are respectively partnered and a repulsive asshole.

EDB, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

Those are good odds; time to back yourself and make friends imo.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

or you can just throw a post up on craigslist "casual encounters" and you'll be a non-virgin by next week. Though you probably won't enjoy the experience....

Lee626, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

Are you in a university town, or a city? I know a number of guys who had that kind of ratio in engineering school--they hunkered down, worked hard, got great jobs and wives after.

Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link

EDB, you're not that far off where I was at your age. If you're a grad student, find the stodgiest bar that grad students hang out at and just start talking to people, if that's at all appealing.

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

Hey EDB I found this "guide to flirting" and I thought it was p helpful. Kind without being GAMEMASTER or creepy or weird, genuinely practical advice for a dingdong like me.

Crabbits, Thursday, 26 July 2012 00:46 (eleven years ago) link

mh, why the stodgiest bar?

Je55e, Thursday, 26 July 2012 06:15 (eleven years ago) link

Grad students don't go to the partyingest college bars, that's for undergrads.

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Thursday, 26 July 2012 10:37 (eleven years ago) link

grad students go to the overpriced ones

the late great, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

OK, I give up. There's really no good reason I, at 25, and with an active libido and no relevant psychological or physical issues, should still be sexually inactive. I haven't even gotten anywhere, at all, since joining OkCupid more than a year ago. I dunno if I should, like, get this looked into, or whether I'm just subjecting myself to unnecessary self-pathologization.

Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Friday, 25 October 2013 03:19 (ten years ago) link

if you ask someone "can i kiss you?" at a somewhat unusual moment in the midst of a conversation during a date or romantically charged hangout that's going well -- and sell it correctly by sounding confident yet somehow also caught off guard, as if the idea has just come to you -- you should be golden.

(emphasis Treeship's) (Treeship), Friday, 25 October 2013 04:29 (ten years ago) link

ha

(emphasis Treeship's) (Treeship), Friday, 25 October 2013 04:35 (ten years ago) link

i mean, i am the first to admit i probably don't know what i am talking about. i just think that it might be a risk free way for ed.b to see where he stands if he finds himself in an ambiguous situation.

(emphasis Treeship's) (Treeship), Friday, 25 October 2013 04:39 (ten years ago) link

But if she says yes, then what do I do!?!?

The thing is, like, I haven't even gotten to the point where that was a possibility.

Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Friday, 25 October 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link

When I I I feel that something
I want to hold your haaaaaaand.
Please let me hold your ha-a-a-a-a-and.
I want to hold your hand.

And when I touch you I fele happy inside.
It's such a feeling that my love
I can't hide
I can't hide
I can't hide.

Aimless, Friday, 25 October 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link

I wish libidos were like, say, kidneys so I could sell mine on the black market.

Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Friday, 25 October 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link

Been looking at site new answers all day, guess Matt P is taking some time off

Jesus (wins), Friday, 25 October 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link

*farts*

stylings (Matt P), Friday, 25 October 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link

That's the spirit

Jesus (wins), Friday, 25 October 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link

do you have severe social anxiety and/or are you "holding out" for a supermodel? not joking. if the former you should address that in a more general sense rather than place too much emphasis on getting laid.

(emphasis Treeship's) (Treeship), Friday, 25 October 2013 23:39 (ten years ago) link

Well, I do have non-severe social anxiety issues - at least not severe enough to prevent me from going on dates - which is more or less the root of the problem. I rarely meet people, very rarely make friends, and have especial difficulty maintaining relationships, hence the fact I've never met and befriending available women where there's mutual attraction (I did come close this summer, but ultimately she wasn't interested in me).

Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Saturday, 26 October 2013 01:25 (ten years ago) link

Very tempted to start a sex/relationship advice column on ILTMI where people can benefit from my vast inexperience.

Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Saturday, 26 October 2013 02:00 (ten years ago) link

(a crowd gathers below the ledge and they chant)

do it! do it!

Aimless, Saturday, 26 October 2013 02:45 (ten years ago) link

People that are ultimately not that interested might be sex partners before that ultimatum comes into effect

mh, Saturday, 26 October 2013 04:20 (ten years ago) link

Is it possible to fail more totally as a human than by being a 28 year old virgin?

this is how a punch sounds, like ditch, like quitch (soref), Saturday, 26 October 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link

(excluding obvious answer of 'by being a 29/30/31 etc year old virgin')

this is how a punch sounds, like ditch, like quitch (soref), Saturday, 26 October 2013 17:26 (ten years ago) link

short answer: yes

Aimless, Saturday, 26 October 2013 17:37 (ten years ago) link

gotta say that never having put a part of your body into an opening in another person's body, or had a part of another person's body put into an opening in your body, does not strike me as a particularly noteworthy marker of one's success or lack thereof

Euler, Saturday, 26 October 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link

OTM

Victor Immature (WilliamC), Saturday, 26 October 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link

yeah, WTF? (re soref)

Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Saturday, 26 October 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link

28 yr old virgin = me, if that wasn't clear, not trying to have a go at anyone else.

this is how a punch sounds, like ditch, like quitch (soref), Saturday, 26 October 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link

not everyone has to have sex

if you want to, just make sure it happens before you're decrepit

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 26 October 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link

sex is not that great, really.

(emphasis Treeship's) (Treeship), Saturday, 26 October 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link

i think you should all pursue whatever types of experiences you want to have, but don't think you are missing out on the best thing in the world or something.

(emphasis Treeship's) (Treeship), Saturday, 26 October 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link

otm, close second at best

ͼѾͽ (sic), Saturday, 26 October 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link

i. scoring a goal

drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Saturday, 26 October 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link

i. scoring a goal

Also number one in the list of things I am even less likely to do than get laid.

this is how a punch sounds, like ditch, like quitch (soref), Saturday, 26 October 2013 20:13 (ten years ago) link

You can meet up with any nine people of a weekend and fix that.

drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Saturday, 26 October 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link


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