You Make Polling Fun: FLEETWOOD MAC POLL RESULTS, ILM Artist Poll #22

It's a little intense to think of Kirwan writing Dust when he's like 22 years old. That's his last track on a Mac album, right?

He took the lyrics from a Rupert Brooke poem, but yeah, that's such a surprising and beautiful melody.

#42: "Crystal" (Stevie Nicks, 1975) - 117 points, 6 votes

http://blackjacketsymphony.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/fleetwood2.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/ypKuvQLq9rc

Originally recorded, of course, for the awesome Buckingham/Nicks LP from 1973.

I wish "Crystal" had been higher. I prefer the original recording but both versions tap into something...makes me cry every time.

Speaking of crying, I was reading last week how upset Stevie was during that photo shoot at LB and the photographer getting her out of her shirt.

It's a great song for anyone else, but subpar for THE MAC

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:48 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i've always felt that if "don't stop" was a lite thin lizzy song, i'd be fine with it. but it's so out of place on rumours. i've been warming up to it tho

Speaking of crying, I was reading last week how upset Stevie was during that photo shoot at LB and the photographer getting her out of her shirt.

Didn't she spend their food money for the week on the blouse she wanted to wear for the shoot?

i've always felt that if "don't stop" was a lite thin lizzy song

My mind just came dangerously close to exploding

It's still shocking to me that Buckingham/Nicks has never been released on CD.

Everything I've ever read about it not being on cd has to do with Buckingham being a perfectionist and blocking its release until he can tinker with the mix a lot.

(and he's not in a hurry to do so)

He's waiting for Neil Young to reissue Time Fades Away.

Last one for today...

"Sentimental Lady" (Bob Welch, 1972): 123 points, 5 votes

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/29752967/Bob+Welch.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/HvCUJgnVg3o

Whoops... With ranking:

#41: "Sentimental Lady" (Bob Welch, 1972): 123 points, 5 votes

This is as good a time as any to point out that Mick Fleetwood's autobio is MANDATORY READING. So fucking good.

To recap so far:

#60: "Sands of Time" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 57 points, 3 votes
#59: "Dragonfly" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 62 points, 3 votes
#58: "Blue Letter" (Richard & Michael Curtis, 1975) - 63 points, 4 votes
#57: "Warm Ways" (Christine McVie, 1975) - 70 points, 3 votes
#56: "That's Enough For Me" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 70 points, 3 votes
#55: "Coming Your Way" (Danny Kirwan, 1969) - 71 points, 4 votes
#54: "Seven Wonders" (Sandy Stewart, 1987) - 76 points, 4 votes
#53: "Sisters of the Moon" (Stevie Nicks, 1979) - 76 points, 4 votes
#52: "Show Me a Smile" (Christine McVie, 1971) - 87 points, 3 votes, 1 number one vote
#51: "Not That Funny" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 87 points, 5 votes
#50: "I'm So Afraid" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1975) - 90 points, 4 votes
#49: "Keep On Going" (Bob Welch, 1973) - 96 points, 4 votes
#48: "Spare Me a Little of Your Love" (Christine McVie, 1972) - 102 points, 4 votes
#47: "Monday Morning" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1975) - 109 points, 5 votes
#46: "Book of Love" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1982) - 109 points, 5 votes
#45: "Don't Stop" (Christine McVie, 1977) - 111 points, 6 votes
#44: "Woman of 1000 Years" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 113 points, 6 votes
#43: "Dust" (Danny Kirwan, 1972) - 114 points, 4 votes, 2 number one votes
#42: "Crystal" (Stevie Nicks, 1975) - 117 points, 6 votes
#41: "Sentimental Lady" (Bob Welch, 1972): 123 points, 5 votes

This is as good a time as any to point out that Mick Fleetwood's autobio is MANDATORY READING. So fucking good.

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:23 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Really good to know...

well after my last min bumping of sisters... i have a grand total of zero so far. suppose that's not really surprising as i didn't vote for anything pre-rumours. feel like i should prob check some of this danny kirwan dude out tho.

Good lord, that Mac version of Sentimental Lady is a rhythm section WORKOUT. Deserves to be higher.

Bottom 20:

Kirwan: 5
C. McVie: 4
Welch: 2
Buckingham: 5
Nicks: 2
Other: 2

That actually seems about right, except for Green...

Go Kirwain!

what has danny kirwan been up to for the past 35 years anyhow?

mental problems, alcoholism, homelessness

Pretty much the same thing Syd Barrett was up to until he died, though maybe not quite as nice...

:-(

If you're going to go nuts in a Hall Of Fame band, make sure it's Pink Floyd and not Fleetwood Mac...

This is as good a time as any to point out that Mick Fleetwood's autobio is MANDATORY READING. So fucking good.

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:23 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Really good to know...

― Clarke B., Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:28 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I started reading this last year, and he's been sitting there, staring at me with his big crazy eyes, waiting for me to get around to finishing ever since. This poll has been nagging me towards picking it up again. He had just met John McVie when I stopped reading, though, so I'm yet to get to the interesting stuff (early chapters of bios are always a chore for me). The poem his dad wrote about him is worth reading, though.

w.r.t. "Sentimental Lady":

This song appears in the movie Grown Ups, and Maya Rudolph describes this as the "whitest song ever".[citation needed]

I read it either when I was still in high school or shortly thereafter, so...about 20 years ago. I just bought a copy on ebay to read it again.

voted for both 'spare me a little of your love' (my #4) and 'blue letter' (my #12) out of todays jamz

going to make a p sweet playlist i think

i freaking love spare me a little. would made my top 5 and it coulda/shoulda been a smash

So sad about Kirwan... From Wikipedia: 'Kirwan shouldered much of the songwriting responsibility during this troubled and uncertain period for the band, through the changes in both the line-up and in musical style. The pressure showed in his health and he suffered problems with alcoholism; stories abound of Kirwan not eating for several days at a time, subsisting largely on beer. He gradually became estranged from the other band members, and things came to a head during the autumn of 1972. Before a concert on that year's US tour, Kirwan and Welch rowed over tuning and Kirwan flew into a rage, smashing his guitar and refusing to go onstage. Instead he watched while the rest of the band struggled through without him, and offered unwelcome criticism afterwards. Kirwan had to be sacked by Fleetwood, who had hitherto been the only other member still speaking to him. Fleetwood later said: "It was a torment for him, really, to be up there, and it reduced him to someone who you just looked at and thought 'My God'. It was more a thing of, although he was asked to leave, the way I was looking at it was, I hoped, it was almost putting him out of his agony."'

This is as good a time as any to point out that Mick Fleetwood's autobio is MANDATORY READING. So fucking good. - i've heard otherwise!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6IXCBWlh4c

It's a pretty good work of fiction.

i enjoyed mick's book quite a lot, but then i am equally excited about reading ken caillat's book too

yeah! that's on my list. has anyone here read it?

I read a good chunk at a bookstore a few weeks ago: good stories about Buck at the mixing desk.

Speaking of Buck at the mixing desk, this clip is amusing to me because I didn't really expect Lindsey to sound so dweeby. Tho it helped make sense of a lot of things, really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TElW2xIEfFI

Also makes me sad that Mark Ruffalo is already too old to play Lindsey in a should-have-been HBO docudrama about the making of Rumors.

The Caillat book is quite good.
The impression is of a really odd bunch of ppl, working quite hard, and getting to grips with increasing success.

Lindsey, in particular, seems a piece of work.

Also makes me sad that Mark Ruffalo is already too old to play Lindsey in a should-have-been HBO docudrama about the making of Rumors.

OMG

Y'all ready for this?

COMMENCE TOP 40...

#40: "I Don't Want to Know" (Nicks, 1977)

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/spinal-tap-fleetwood-mac-431x300.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/Og7msZ0wuZ8

Let me complete that thought... (I'm still undercaffeinated.)

#40: "I Don't Want to Know" (Nicks, 1977) - 124 points, 6 votes

God, Mick is the freakiest looking fucker!

apparently these guys didn't believe in bathing more than once a week

xp: although Christine is giving him a run for his money in this pic. wow.

"I Don't Want to Know" sounds like it could have come straight off of Buckingham/Nicks (except for the superior rhythm section)...

Found this
interview with Danny Kirwan from 1997.

The interviewer had this to say in 2000:

Good news: I met Danny's ex-wife Clare recently who kindly helped me with liner notes for a Kirwan compilation called 'Ram Jam City' which Mooncrest recently released. Danny turned 50 this May and Clare showed me photos taken of him on his birthday.
I was really pleased to notice him looking a lot fitter than was the case five years ago when I interviewed him. His hair is now short and he looks stronger and more together. Best news of all, perhaps, is that he keeps a guitar in his room and plays quite often for his own pleasure.

He remains a very private person who keeps himself to himself and is nicely settled in the care centre where he's been for some time now.

I know that some of his many well-wishers took to the idea of Danny possibly moving to Eric Clapton's Crossroads centre in Antigua for treatment: whilst this may be a poignant notion as a modern story of the blues, in reality his family feel that he is far better off staying where he is. Obviously they know what's best and isn't it great to know that music still is there in Danny's day-to-day life.