I think maybe what I was getting at is that I wish Stevie did blissed-out well. :)
― cwkiii, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
Christine does it though! Listen to "Warm Ways."
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
I think "Don't Stop" is just kind of treacly and simpleminded in sentiment and lyric, and was surprised to find myself thinking that about most of Christine's songs as I went through the catalogue. Coming into this poll, I would have ranked LB >> CM >> SN, but now I'd put Stevie ahead of Christine because her songs don't reduce down to swoony Moon-June-Spoon platitudes and cliches -- at least not as often. #stonetheheretic
― Neil Jung (WmC), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
No way is she as interesting a lyricist, let alone a personality, as Buck-Nicks, but she's such an attractive singer.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
I'll give you that, yep.
― Neil Jung (WmC), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
I listened to the Christine Perfect album last night while I was drifting off to sleep. I think I'd heard it before then, but if so I didn't remember anything about it. Pretty plain, imo. Especially for something dubbed "The Legendary Christine Perfect Album".
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
all the live versions of "i'm so afraid" are blistering
i heard the version on the dance before i ever heard the album version and i'm kind of ruined
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OrtLxsqSic
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link
Moreover, as the Normal Person among the songwriters she's the ideal foil.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link
Thing about Christine is she's been churning out high quality stuff like clockwork forever. I'm kind of amused that my highest ranked nu-Mac song did so poorly. It makes me think I was on to something....
― dlp9001, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:10 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
That's very true...
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
Yay "Woman of 1000 Years"! My 2nd track to make it!
Remember Stevie saying when Lindsey first told her he'd been asked to join FM, she went out and bought all the FM albums and listened to them in order, noting a ethereal-mystical thread that ran through them that appealed to her. There's no question in my mind that this song was one of the ones that appealed to her.
(not why I voted for it, of course--it's just achingy pretty. Future Games, as an album, has a really sweet Zep III/Zoso vibe to it. Except with more appealing vocals.)
― seapluspluspunk (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
After my son was born I walked home from hospital at three in the morning and ramped up I'm So Afraid on repeat for about an hour. I don't think it was a comment on my mental state or anything, it's just an epic jam.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
Also, I would never include "Don't Stop" in my 20 favorite FM tracks but I don't hate it by any means. I think its place in Rumours gives it depth, makes it sound more desperate than it otherwise would: I don't hear it as "smiling thru tears" so much as "clutching for dear life on the hope of tomorrow to get us thru this pit of tumult and despair"
― seapluspluspunk (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
can we go back to discussing how awesome Buckingham's arrangement for "Seven Wonders" is?
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
Danny K. straight-up killin' it!
#43: "Dust" (Danny Kirwan, 1972) - 114 points, 4 votes, 2 number one votes
http://cdnimg.visualizeus.com/thumbs/97/dc/fleetwood,mac-97dc38158d6f75d3026e638ec49e1b37_h.jpg
Track link: http://youtu.be/f2ncrkgeM0g
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
I discovered "Dust" last week.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
So did I! It's great!
― seapluspluspunk (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
Future Games, as an album, has a really sweet Zep III/Zoso vibe to it.
I have to think CSN had an impact, too. "Future Games" the song sounds quite a bit like "Wooden Ships" to my ear.
― David Allan Cow (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
It's a little intense to think of Kirwan writing Dust when he's like 22 years old. That's his last track on a Mac album, right?
― dlp9001, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link
He took the lyrics from a Rupert Brooke poem, but yeah, that's such a surprising and beautiful melody.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
#42: "Crystal" (Stevie Nicks, 1975) - 117 points, 6 votes
http://blackjacketsymphony.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/fleetwood2.jpg
Track link: http://youtu.be/ypKuvQLq9rc
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
Originally recorded, of course, for the awesome Buckingham/Nicks LP from 1973.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
I wish "Crystal" had been higher. I prefer the original recording but both versions tap into something...makes me cry every time.
― JessFlip, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
Speaking of crying, I was reading last week how upset Stevie was during that photo shoot at LB and the photographer getting her out of her shirt.
― Neil Jung (WmC), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
It's a great song for anyone else, but subpar for THE MAC
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:48 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i've always felt that if "don't stop" was a lite thin lizzy song, i'd be fine with it. but it's so out of place on rumours. i've been warming up to it tho
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
Didn't she spend their food money for the week on the blouse she wanted to wear for the shoot?
― Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
i've always felt that if "don't stop" was a lite thin lizzy song
My mind just came dangerously close to exploding
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
It's still shocking to me that Buckingham/Nicks has never been released on CD.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
Everything I've ever read about it not being on cd has to do with Buckingham being a perfectionist and blocking its release until he can tinker with the mix a lot.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
(and he's not in a hurry to do so)
He's waiting for Neil Young to reissue Time Fades Away.
― Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
Last one for today...
"Sentimental Lady" (Bob Welch, 1972): 123 points, 5 votes
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/29752967/Bob+Welch.jpg
Track link: http://youtu.be/HvCUJgnVg3o
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
Whoops... With ranking:
#41: "Sentimental Lady" (Bob Welch, 1972): 123 points, 5 votes
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
This is as good a time as any to point out that Mick Fleetwood's autobio is MANDATORY READING. So fucking good.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
To recap so far:
#60: "Sands of Time" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 57 points, 3 votes#59: "Dragonfly" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 62 points, 3 votes#58: "Blue Letter" (Richard & Michael Curtis, 1975) - 63 points, 4 votes#57: "Warm Ways" (Christine McVie, 1975) - 70 points, 3 votes#56: "That's Enough For Me" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 70 points, 3 votes#55: "Coming Your Way" (Danny Kirwan, 1969) - 71 points, 4 votes#54: "Seven Wonders" (Sandy Stewart, 1987) - 76 points, 4 votes#53: "Sisters of the Moon" (Stevie Nicks, 1979) - 76 points, 4 votes#52: "Show Me a Smile" (Christine McVie, 1971) - 87 points, 3 votes, 1 number one vote#51: "Not That Funny" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 87 points, 5 votes#50: "I'm So Afraid" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1975) - 90 points, 4 votes#49: "Keep On Going" (Bob Welch, 1973) - 96 points, 4 votes#48: "Spare Me a Little of Your Love" (Christine McVie, 1972) - 102 points, 4 votes#47: "Monday Morning" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1975) - 109 points, 5 votes#46: "Book of Love" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1982) - 109 points, 5 votes#45: "Don't Stop" (Christine McVie, 1977) - 111 points, 6 votes#44: "Woman of 1000 Years" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 113 points, 6 votes#43: "Dust" (Danny Kirwan, 1972) - 114 points, 4 votes, 2 number one votes#42: "Crystal" (Stevie Nicks, 1975) - 117 points, 6 votes#41: "Sentimental Lady" (Bob Welch, 1972): 123 points, 5 votes
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:23 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Really good to know...
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
well after my last min bumping of sisters... i have a grand total of zero so far. suppose that's not really surprising as i didn't vote for anything pre-rumours. feel like i should prob check some of this danny kirwan dude out tho.
― second only to popcorn (or something), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
Good lord, that Mac version of Sentimental Lady is a rhythm section WORKOUT. Deserves to be higher.
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
Bottom 20:
Kirwan: 5C. McVie: 4Welch: 2Buckingham: 5Nicks: 2Other: 2
That actually seems about right, except for Green...
― dlp9001, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
Go Kirwain!
― windjammer voyage (blank), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
what has danny kirwan been up to for the past 35 years anyhow?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
mental problems, alcoholism, homelessness
― buzza, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
Pretty much the same thing Syd Barrett was up to until he died, though maybe not quite as nice...
― dlp9001, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
:-(
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
If you're going to go nuts in a Hall Of Fame band, make sure it's Pink Floyd and not Fleetwood Mac...
― dlp9001, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
― Clarke B., Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:28 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I started reading this last year, and he's been sitting there, staring at me with his big crazy eyes, waiting for me to get around to finishing ever since. This poll has been nagging me towards picking it up again. He had just met John McVie when I stopped reading, though, so I'm yet to get to the interesting stuff (early chapters of bios are always a chore for me). The poem his dad wrote about him is worth reading, though.
― cwkiii, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
w.r.t. "Sentimental Lady":
This song appears in the movie Grown Ups, and Maya Rudolph describes this as the "whitest song ever".[citation needed]
― queequeg (peter grasswich), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
I read it either when I was still in high school or shortly thereafter, so...about 20 years ago. I just bought a copy on ebay to read it again.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
voted for both 'spare me a little of your love' (my #4) and 'blue letter' (my #12) out of todays jamz
going to make a p sweet playlist i think
― Lamp, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
i freaking love spare me a little. would made my top 5 and it coulda/shoulda been a smash
― making plans for nyquil (outdoor_miner), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link