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i feel like i either posted these a while back, or didn't post them, because i think they were on Photo Booth & so maybe on the radar of some ilxors, but i just came back to some of the Kiana Hayeri photos that got some attention a while back. her portraits, which i think i like as much as any portraiture of its kind-

http://www.kianahayeri.com/veilphaseii/06Mina.jpg

& then her other, storyish series (choose 'Projects'), a bunch of which are Iran. they're so subtle & well observed. i'm kinda posting them as an addendum to the thing about a ~look~ of contemporary photography

http://www.kianahayeri.com/maygodedit2/Hayeri13.jpg
http://www.kianahayeri.com/maygodedit2/Hayeri15.jpg
http://www.kianahayeri.com/maygodedit2/Hayeri04.jpg

like sometimes in trying to gauge the success of some of my photos I find myself wondering if I've created some kind of noble excuse for them, in not having achieved this very technical quality that would make them similar to the street photographer guy i posted above's photos - very immediate & aesthetically upfront, & of a tradition (ie they're quite Robert Frank-y) in the way they look. but Kiana's are at a tangent to that style, i think, relying on semi-naturalistic camera functions, like the non-defined upfront blurring of characters or use of reflective surfaces, things that code as real and familiar or slightly exagerrated variations on those feelings, more than they come across as clever or novel metaphors or depictions. i've included the pretty blue-ish ~excellent colour photo~ one above, but they're subtler & more interesting than that one, i think, & do a really good job as understanding how things look.

, Blogger (schlump), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 12:36 (eleven years ago) link

not so much praising, but this was linked from LPV, and gets to a bit of that soth-like look that seems to be prevalent and prized right now.
http://www.nearbycafe.com/artandphoto/photocritic/

including this description of the elements that tend to make up the "well-made photograph" done in this vein:


The primary subject (there’s rarely a secondary subject) receives central placement within the frame.

The primary subject is the largest object within the frame.

The primary subject is addressed frontally and head-on.

The primary subject is closest to the picture plane within the frame.

The primary subject is in sharpest focus.

The primary subject contains the most intense highlights (in a b&w image) or the most intense colors, sometimes both.

This literal subject matter and image format then get repeated until enough variants accumulate to constitute a book, an exhibition, or some even larger aggregate.

and on this page: http://www.nearbycafe.com/artandphoto/photocritic/2012/07/08/trope-the-well-made-photograph-2/ the elements of the "well-made project"


Identify a literal subject matter. Just about anything will do: teenagers in their bedrooms, veterans suffering from PTSD, discarded purses from your local thrift shop that you’ve frozen in blocks of ice . . .

In their own environments or in some version of the studio, photograph 40 examples of your chosen subject matter (preferably using the image-structure template described above).

If your subjects are human, transcribe interviews with them, or get them to write their own stories to accompany the images. If they’re animals, or inanimate objects, find apropos text fragments or create your own.

Draft an artist’s statement explicating the significance of what you’ve chosen to point your camera at.
Voila! C’est fait!

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

not to say that all relates to alec soth's aesthetic, but it does seem to relate to the current vogue for reverent cataloging documentary or post-documentary photography.

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

it's nice to look through this thread and see that practically nothing posted here fits that formula! with the exception of the time we were trying to identify the 'style of the times'

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

still reading through this but even the way it's written seems to err towards a kinda hyper-literate, pristine & literal style, as per the photos. so much of it is reverence of the technical act - it sorta reminds me of "do you know how many chords are in this song?". like the prog of photography. or like w/super-neat tumblr-wave graphics in which things are spelled out in capital letters perfectly centred & typefaced per the Rules Of Design. so fussy!

, Blogger (schlump), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

tbh I'm not crazy about the writing style, and I don't really buy his thesis that higher education uniformity is to blame for the consistent style, but I think his list of project/photo traits that are in abundance at the moment seems spot on.

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

ha, sorry - i'd been reading that here rather than at the link & had thought it was instructive, like a ten photographic commandments, rather than a commentary.

, Blogger (schlump), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah "well-made photograph" is meant as a pejorative term

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

happy birthday, william eggleston

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Friday, 27 July 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

obviously ^^; i was looking at some of his paris photos, recently, i would love to see like a lot of his more recent work to get a better hold on it.

just caught this

, Blogger (schlump), Saturday, 28 July 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

I really like eggleston's fairly recent Paris

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Sunday, 29 July 2012 01:51 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.fotonet.org.uk/images/Portrait-William-Eggleston.jpg

yeah me too - i've never seen the book but coming back to the photos i think i was surprised by how good it was; i think in my head i have a very brief, remembered judgement of some of his recent work being kinda the same but feat. landmarks of contemporary life (which fwiw i think is p much how eggleston sees it, too - that he doesn't consider any of his photos as inherently or visibly belonging to a specific era of his work). but that had superseded appreciating how fresh they are or how measured - sometimes appropriately a lil more muted than his older work, & still so good on catching some salient detail. this is why i wanna just see more, like enough to get a hold on his range. his framing's so interesting & fucking careless, now (like per his whole 'action outside of the frame' framing & all but seriously).

paris:

http://www.alexihobbs.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/testuser5_mar2009_01_EGGLESTON_TO_300309_dkapjY_WMNXZa.jpg
http://files.fluctuat.net/IMG/jpg/Eggleston4.jpg

in the 21st century (<- most of the series here):

http://www.scaithebathhouse.com/data/artists/assets_c/2010/09/william_eggleston_main-thumb-728xauto-494.jpg
http://www.scaithebathhouse.com/data/exhibitions/assets_c/2010/09/s_santa-window_300-thumb-550xauto-9.jpg
http://www.toimg.net/managed/images/10130205/w482/h298/image.jpg
http://prod-images.exhibit-e.com/www_cheimread_com/8752256b.jpg

(also notable & found while googling around, this archival chinavision shot, date unknown)

, Blogger (schlump), Sunday, 29 July 2012 12:06 (eleven years ago) link

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6nqu2R7Un1qc65n4o1_500.jpg

[img=http://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/objects?exhibitionId={66E4D6CB-A9AD-41A3-B40D-9150BDE16E4C}&pg=1&rpp=20]photography in the dark[/url], at the met, looks interesting

, Blogger (schlump), Sunday, 29 July 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/26/a-dip-into-the-black-sea/

intrigued by the notion of a 'communist aesthetic' - immediately I slot this in with jason eskenazi, vanessa winship (http://www.vanessawinship.com/gallery.php?ProjectID=146)

smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Sunday, 29 July 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

http://visualisingchina.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/JC-s037.jpg

via the blog of the visualising china project, which looks p interesting, the portraiture especially.

, Blogger (schlump), Sunday, 12 August 2012 11:25 (eleven years ago) link

http://bremser.tumblr.com/post/30059941847/baptiste-giroudon-afghan-worker-in-us-military

this photo made me really sad today

jack chick-fil-A (dayo), Friday, 24 August 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

robert adams rules

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

yeah I'm gonna go up to yale to look at that exhib

jack chick-fil-A (dayo), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

oh hey there's a Robert Adams opening at Matthew Marks in Chelsea this Thursday, for any NYC area people.
I'm gonna try to drop by (if I can work it in before meeting up w folks for DNC viewing night)

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

http://kenshukan.net/john/archives/2012/09/07/on-photography-as-of-late/

gets at my thoughts and worries a bit

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Friday, 7 September 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, feeling that. again, two questions: why shoot? why exhibit?

I like to analogize to writers - the novel, as it exists now, is similarly a mature artform. what do literary critics think of modern writers who ape chandler, who still strive after the well-crafted, simple and direct and perfectly forged sentence? or poets who still write poetry. maybe just accept that you are producing work only for a small community of individuals with like-leaning hearts and eyes.

USADA Bin Dopen (dayo), Friday, 7 September 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

john sypal blog reminded me of abe shinji and i really love it raw loud contrasty non jokey (international street photographer DARK SKIES OVER TOKYO/SAN DIEGO: THE SUBTLE GLINT OF THE CORONA/THE PAST MEETS THE FUTURE MEETS ENTROPY IN KUALA LUMPUR eric kim harsh flash head-on photo of a fat woman holding an ice cream cone = modern street photography)

http://www.japanexposures.com/images/2010/01/shinji-abe-6.jpg
http://www.japanexposures.com/images/2010/01/shinji-abe-9.jpg

28 pictures

dylannn, Friday, 14 September 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

(international street photographer DARK SKIES OVER TOKYO/SAN DIEGO: THE SUBTLE GLINT OF THE CORONA/THE PAST MEETS THE FUTURE MEETS ENTROPY IN KUALA LUMPUR eric kim harsh flash head-on photo of a fat woman holding an ice cream cone = modern street photography)

this is amazing btw

very sexual album (schlump), Saturday, 15 September 2012 02:10 (eleven years ago) link

i'm a sucker for give cameras to kids and see what happens projects.

皮村小小摄影师 the little photographers of pi village

pictures from the photography class at tongxin experimental school in the suburbs of beijing. most of the kids are children of migrant workers, who have a history of having a hard time getting decent or any education for their kids. a sign at the entrance to the school hopefully reads: 流动儿童也是祖国的花儿 / lit: the children of migrant workers are flowers of the motherland, too. i like 刘路明 liu luming's pictures. 涂星星 tu xingxing is my favorite:

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/jiaoqu/gongmink5.jpg
http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/jiaoqu/gongmink6.jpg
http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/jiaoqu/gongmink7.jpg
http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/jiaoqu/gongmink1.jpg

dylannn, Thursday, 27 September 2012 04:02 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.unchangingwindow.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/bill1.jpeg

those are great, btw, dylannn, & what is not to love about giving cameras to kids. i am trying to get hold of a bunch of pictures when i got a camera when i was six or seven, i am pretty sure my aesthetic has not changed so much.

unprotectable tweetz (schlump), Sunday, 30 September 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

Not checked this thread in a while.

The light on the girl's face in the first of the Beijing shots dylannn posted is great, just hits in the right place.

Really like the Cushman bridge photo upthread too, will read the articles later.

michaellambert, Sunday, 30 September 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

love those

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 01:21 (eleven years ago) link

first is one from a bunch available on the tate site. kinda having trouble finding stuff online but there's a catalogue at my library imma check out

http://www.tate.org.uk/art/images/work/P/P78/P78218_10.jpg

unprotectable tweetz (schlump), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link

yeah those are really nice

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 01:34 (eleven years ago) link

i really want one of those genius grants. just to cover processing costs.

unprotectable tweetz (schlump), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 01:43 (eleven years ago) link

Uta Barth <3

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

uta <3

judith, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link

in her exhibition catalogue, her 'in passing' photographs, like those boxed shots at the Tate site, are paired with extracts from Joan Didion's Democracy

unprotectable tweetz (schlump), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.americansuburbx.com/2012/10/interview-interview-with-ernesto-bazan-2012.html

longish post, some cool pics interspersed & at bottom

barthes simpson, Thursday, 4 October 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

I feel like this is what all of those hd camera guys are trying to do, only w/shots of their everyday life rendered in the same palette:

unprotectable tweetz (schlump), Monday, 8 October 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.npr.org/news/graphics/2009/feb/robertfrankintro.html
http://i.imgur.com/7TXs9.jpg

i've never seen this before and it's kind of making me tear up on a tuesday night

barthes simpson, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 02:41 (eleven years ago) link

reading now; did you ever see this,

http://i.imgur.com/H7dVZ.jpg

*buffs lens* (schlump), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 03:13 (eleven years ago) link

i've never seen this before and it's kind of making me tear up on a tuesday night

― barthes simpson, Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:41 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

read this while listening to "ramada inn" by Neil Young and was like damn

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Saturday, 13 October 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

haha I like the not so subtle "PLEASE SEND ME MONEY!" message xp

乒乓, Saturday, 13 October 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.magnumphotos.com/C.aspx?VP3=SearchResult&ALID=2TYRYDZ27I8O

乒乓, Monday, 15 October 2012 12:20 (eleven years ago) link

I wouldn't complain about a 70 cent haircut. (only about $7 in today's money!)
Get over it Robert.

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Monday, 15 October 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

some good photos here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-19873074

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Monday, 15 October 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link

for gr80: http://ignacio-torres.com/

乒乓, Friday, 19 October 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link


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