I want this

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-m/

can't believe the uk price. $799 = £560 including vat, not £750.

Pretty outrageous pricing. Panasonic Lumix GF-3 + 20/1.7 still some kind of high-water mark for this sort of camera system, I think, based on price.

Amazon US has been running some crazy Panasonic deals - basically, buy the 20 or 14 and get a free GF3 body. Must be clearing out inventory in advance of the GF5.

I don't want it, but the Sony full-frame compact w/ fixed 35/2 lens is a bold move. I'm shocked they didn't figure out how to include an EVF or OVF to really fuck up Leica's world, tho.

yes. and ovf and evf will be available at launch for an extra $450/600.

but... three grand to start? three thousand dollars? what's up with that?

FF SLRs start at $2200, this includes a top-shelf lens, etc., I guess

and its small

*everybody throws their leica x1 into the trashcan*

is it missing the point to bring up in this conversation all of the cool fixed focal length p&s cameras already out there that aren't digital?

http://japancamerahunter.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/0011534-811x1024.jpg

Not missing the point at all, IMO - enthusiasts have been pining for a true digital Contax/Canonet/Hexar AF since the first DSLRs. Micro-4/3 got closer, the X100 got closer still, there have been awesome small-sensor compacts, but this is the closest anyone's gotten to the fanboy's wet dream of a 36x24 sensor in a T2 package.

it's gorgeous, too. this is fixed lens though, right? boo.

The RX1's 35mm lens offers two control rings. The aperture ring offers click stops, but given the lack of an 'neutral' position on the ring we assume there is no mechanical connection to the aperture blades. Nevertheless the dial's operation feels very nice, with very well defined clicks, pretty much the same as on a mechanical lens.

The second ring lets you adjust the minimum focus distance, which basically makes it a macro-mode switch. The third ring, the furthest form the lens mount, is the focus ring. It's nicely dampened and moves very smoothly, but has no mechanical connection to the focus elements of the lens as the RX1 uses a focus-by-wire system.

=(

Leica M (M10), 24mp yada yada yada price of a good used Corolla etc.

suddenly so many cameras around that I want. The d600 and 6d both look pretty nice, too.

what are the differences between the M-E and the M9?

Got excited about the D600, remembered that I don't have £2,000 kicking about and I don't really *need* it.

m-e has same sensor as m9, doesn't have the EXCITING NEW "features" of the m10 (lol video), $1500-2000 cheaper?

see I would be down with the m-e if it was the same sensor as the m10

what's wrong with the m9 sensor, though? i think the m10 sensor is sorta chosen to optimize video... but i don't understand digital sensors so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_4xHIqU4t8&list=UUVmgQawOcdeA9v9o0aukV7A

"here we have the leica menu: space age! new typeface!"

Probably not to optimize video, but CMOS makes video possible, where it wasn't with CCD. And since that's a new feature, they're selling it - presumably the idea runs along "Leica M = photojournalist history = documentary footage shot on the spot!"

I just assumed new sensor tech = better lowlight performance which is all I really want from a digital M

lol http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/20/fashion/leica-cameras-favored-by-celebrities.html?_r=3

As if the base model is not exclusive enough, Jonathan Ive, the Apple designer, reportedly will produce an ultra-limited edition (one unit) to be sold at a charity auction by Bono, the company announced.

def gonna buy that if it's < $250

lol @ that article btw. i don't quite have the energy to rewrite it as an indictment of leica weilding ilxors but just imagine it. leica as jewellery.

i just threw mine away in a fit of pique

I gave mine to my butler

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/09/20/fashion/20zLEICA3/20zLEICA3-popup.jpg

"nice voigtlander, newb"

BONO SELLS LEICA ACIEL SLLES ONOB

Correction: September 20, 2012

A previous version of this article was accompanied by a picture of Emmy Rossum holding what was incorrectly identified as a Leica rangefinder. It was, in fact, a Fuji digital camera whose design was inspired by classic rangefinders such as the Leica.

how EMBARRASSING how GAUCHE

lol, it would have been fine if they hadn't tried to defend it, whose design was inspired by classic rangefinders such as the Leica HENCE THE CONFUSION

price on used x100s seems to be steadily dropping ...

600?

roughly, yeah. i'm trying to hold out for $500.

i like the idea of just shooting what i see and not constantly fucking with zoom (something i tend to do, mostly to my detriment) and also having a camera that facilitates doing what i like to do with digital cameras, which is to do as much stuff as i can in manual mode. and having an aps-c sensor. on the other hand, i'm not a particularly competent photographer so i worry it's not necessarily the best choice.

your thoughts?

iphone 5

?

u want an iphone 5

my iphone 4 does take better pictures than my current finepix

could you elaborate though? would you recommend the will.i.am camera accessory?

I was just being facetious - the x100 is a fine camera, go ahead and dip yr toe in the water

X100 sounds great.

Autofocus on all the X cameras has improved dramatically with the last firmware update.

Alas, there isn't good (any) third party support for underwater cases, so the X-E1 (which really seems like the perfect digicam) was out of contention for me.

Colleague of mine sold his X100 as he just couldn't live w/the user interface.

I tried an EOS M again the other day. Autofocus seems comically slow, even in bright light, and it's a pain to use the manual features. Gah, so close to what I want, which is basically a 5D sensor w/1D2 focus, in my pocket. (I'd also like Galaxy Camera-style connectivity, but that can wait)

sony rx1 mayne

I have an X100 which I use mainly for street shooting and I absolutely love it. Having said that, Stet's colleague is sadly otm about the interface; the menu system has improved a bit via firmware updates but it's still a pain in the arse.

However, the physical dials for shutter speed, aperture and exposure compensation make the actual work of making a picture very easy and you can create wonderful images in a vast range of shooting conditions. If a 35mm-equivalent lens suits the kind of images you want to shoot then I'd say you should absolutely go for an X100, especially if you can get one relatively cheaply.