10th Place: Say You Will (2003) - 12 points, 3 votes, 0 number one votes
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/Fleetwood_Mac_-_Say_You_Will.jpg
Their first record without Christine McVie-penned songs since Kiln House in 1970!
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
It's too long, Christine is badly missed, and the production is way too harsh ... but I like it
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 23 July 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
I like imagining that the cover is them feeling really deflated and bummed-out realizing how much they've lost without Christine's presence...
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
I did mean to come back and do albums btw, I just never bothered. Sorry Clarke.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 23 July 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
I would've voted for this most likely.
The Say You Will cover looks like the re-creation of the end of a groovy orgy they had in Van Nuys back in '76.
― Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 23 July 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
9th Place: Future Games (1971) - 26 points, 5 votes, 0 number one votes
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b5/Fleetwood_Mac_-_Future_Games.jpg
Christine's first record as a member, and a really lovely, enveloping record... I now feel bad for having cut it at the last second!
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
Is anyone a huge Kirwan stan?
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
say you will too low.
can't really complain tho as i forgot about the album ballot.
― second only to popcorn (or something), Monday, 23 July 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
8th Place: Then Play On (1969) - 28 points, 4 votes, 0 number one votes
http://www.alistairsdream.co.uk/mainalbum/18%20Alistairs%20Music/MUSIC%20ON%20VINYL/F/slides/FLEETWOOD%20MAC%20-%201969,%20THEN%20PLAY%20ON.jpg
Over the course of quite a few years picking off more and more of my mom's old LP collection during trips back to Virginia, I probably flipped and skipped this one 50 times before actually bothering to open up the gatefold and look to see what it was. By the time I did that, I knew about Peter Green and knew the LPs were somewhat hard to come by... You can imagine my delight, especially considering how anally clean and perfect my mom kept her records.
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
Future Games made my albums list when I realized that a couple of my tracks ballot (and a couple of late cuts) were on it.
When I wrote out my ballot short list and put the songwriter's initials next to every song, I was surprised at the number of DKs.
― Neil Jung (WmC), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
There have been so many instances of me listening to an earlier record, being really struck by a song, and looking to see who wrote it only to reveal it was him.
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
the Say You Will cover always reminded me of this Rolling Stone cover from 1977:
http://por-img.cimcontent.net/api/assets/bin-200904/4ea67ef0cda9083fba8e48f823439bf9.jpg
I felt guilty about not including anything from the album on my ballot. I like the album but no individual song from it quit made my top 20. And yeah it's a really long album - would've been a double album in the vinyl era. It's longer than Tusk!
I did include at least one Future Games cut, and a couple from Then Play On.
Only one Kirwan song on my ballot, and I'm ashamed to admit it's not "Dragonfly" which i've been listening to repeatedly this weekend and it's getting under my skin
― Lee626, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
7th Place: Bare Trees (1972) - 31 points, 6 votes, 1 number one vote
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/08/Baretreescd.jpg
Kirwan's last record with the band, and one of their most beautiful covers IMHO. Our first of the lineup to receive a number one vote... It went gold in 1976, and can still easily be found in dollar bins across the world. (A great investment...)
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link
My #3 pick. Side 2 of this album slays me.
The cover sleeve of the original vinyl (in the US anyway) has an interesting texture
― Lee626, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link
went gold in 1976, and can still easily be found in dollar bins across the world. (A great investment...)
as I discovered last week
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
Do you guys realize Kirwan was only 22 when Bare Trees was recorded? Wow...
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
6th Place: Mystery To Me (1973) - 34 points, 7 votes, 0 number one votes
http://backtomono.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/fleetwood_mystf.jpg
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
(It must be seen in full gatefold to properly appreciate...)
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
McVie's bass playing does not suffer from being so exposed on "Bare Trees" and "Danny's Chant."
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
but Mick didn't look like that in 1973
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link
awesome cover. this was my #4 out of 5.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link
I swear, man, their rhythm section... There's some funny stuff happening on that Jimi/Eddie thread regarding the word "underrated," but I really think Mick and John don't get enough props! Also, John McVie took that photo on the Bare Trees cover... I wonder what Instagram filter he used?
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link
Side note: I was the only one to vote for Kiln House! The cover of which Christine drew... I didn't even include any songs from that record on my ballot, but the whole thing is just so much fun to listen to and so damn weird within their discography that I had to include it as my number 5.
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
5th Place: Mirage (1982) - 43 points, 10 votes, 0 number one votes
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e2/Fleetwood_Mac_-_Mirage.jpg
Didn't someone on the lead-up thread say that this was Lindsey Buckingham's least favorite Fleetwood Mac record? The cover art is intriguing... Is Christine seducing Lindsey? Or warning him?
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
yep -- the let's-consciously-make-a-Rumours-sequel.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
which worked commercially: it remained #1 in America for five weeks and outsold Tusk.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
it's great!
― contenderizer, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
eyezatha world!
― contenderizer, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
I ended up with three tracks from Mirage in my top 20 but I didn't put it on my albums ballot...
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
Christgau's take: "This is the safe follow-up Rumours wasn't, and I find myself alternately charmed by its craft and offended by its banality. After seven years, you'd think they'd weary of romantic tension-and-release. But despite the occasional I'm-scareds and can't-go-backs, you'd never know how much passion they've already put behind them--they write about infatuation and its aftermaths like twenty-year-olds. This is obviously a commercial advantage, and I wouldn't want to be immune to its truth. But pop music offers endless variations on that truth, and since only the most graceful are worth pondering I have to say that there isn't another "Hold Me" here. B+"
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
4th Place: Tango In the Night (1987) - 68 points, 13 votes, 2 number one votes
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Fleetwood_Mac_-_Tango_in_the_Night.jpg
Did you guys know this record started out as a solo project of Lindsey's?
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
What is kinda amusing about the "attempt to recreate Rumours" narrative (incl. from Lindsey himself) is how relatively little Mirage actually sounds like it. You'd think if they were trying so hard for that they wouldn't have included so many oddities and curios good ("Empire State", arguably even "Hold Me") and bad ("Oh Diane").
― Tim F, Monday, 23 July 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
re: Christgau - "This is the safe follow-up Rumours wasn't" - more like, this is the safe follow-up to Rumours that Tusk wasn't
― Lee626, Monday, 23 July 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
Love Tango but I don't think I ended up voting for it - oddly, the weaker tracks (i.e. mainly the two non-single stevie tracks) prevent me from embracing it as an album more than the weaker tracks on Mirage do, even though there's less of them.
― Tim F, Monday, 23 July 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
in Buckingham's defense, when he says "attempt to recreate Rumours" he (and the band too) mean "We all played together."
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
God, those Stevie tracks are REALLY rough going, huh? The best song she does on the record ("Seven Wonders") wasn't even written by her.
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
No I think Christgau meant what he said: Rumours *wasn't* a safe follow-up to the self-titled album when that could have been expected. He's attempting to distinguish between safe commercial appeal and brave commercial appeal, I think.
He's kinda wrong in this case I think (Mirage is the weirder album of the two) but it's a neat distinction nonetheless.
― Tim F, Monday, 23 July 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
the most aurally adventurous parts of Tusk and TITN are Buckingham stitch jobs.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
Rumours def wasn't the safe followup to Fleetwood Mac, so xgau makes sense
xpost ha -- Tim!
x-post
I'm guessing nobody's feeling an insane amount of anticipation for what the top three records will be, haha... In what way was Rumours not a somewhat safe follow-up to the self-titled? I'm not trying to be dense; I've really just always seen those two records as companion pieces.
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
What depresses me about the non-"Seven Wonders" tracks on TITN is how many good songs Nicks had in storage (her stockpile goes back to the seventies).
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
I feel sort of bad for not having voted for "Family Man" or "Caroline"--two "lesser" TITN tracks that I think rule.
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
In what way was Rumours not a somewhat safe follow-up to the self-titled? I'm not trying to be dense; I've really just always seen those two records as companion pieces.
to my ears there's a sense in which the eponymous debut betrays its origins by sounding like a bunch of pop songs with generic I/you pronouns that coheres thanks to expert playing ("Rhiannon" def not though). I guess "Go Your Own Way" is a more urgent, structurally inventive take on "Blue Letter" and "Songbird" a more despairing "Warm Ways."
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
what I love most about the eponymous album is how the songs have an audible joy -- a bunch of people realizing that not only do they like each other, but they make SHIT HOT music together. That's how "Monday Morning" sounds; it LEAPS off the turntable.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, exactly! I love the way the s/t feels. It's lesser songs are better than Rumours's lesser songs, I think, and I enjoy listening to it more (and do listen to it more frequently as well).
― Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
In any case, Rumours wasn't made with commercial appeal as a primary objective, which makes its massive popularity all the more ironic. Certainly demonstrates that sometimes the best way to sell a gazillion records is to just make music that reflects what you're feeling.
― Lee626, Monday, 23 July 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
I have too, and yet, there's a definite feeling of yin/yang between those two as well. The first one was made when all the band members were getting along and there were two couples amongst them; the second was made by a tense band after everyone had broken up.
― Lee626, Monday, 23 July 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
I'm trying to avoid biographical criticism though
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
lol *hill darn
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Monday, 30 July 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link
"Hackensack! Hackensack!/In the middle of my room..."
― Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 30 July 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link
Hahaha that's so bad.
― collardio gelatinous, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 02:29 (eleven years ago) link
Linthicum rings like a bell through the night...
― collardio gelatinous, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 02:49 (eleven years ago) link
Somebody mentioned upthread that "Station Man" and "Hypnotized" carried over into 1975-76, and "Oh Well" is on the 1980 live album. Did any pre-75 material hang around in their live set after 1980?
― Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 03:38 (eleven years ago) link
I recall a dj on the local classic rock station claiming "Hypnotized" popped up in the setlist for a recent reunion tour.
― Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:15 (eleven years ago) link
I think some of this stuff sneaked back into their set in '87, once Burnette & Vito replaced LB. Rattlesnake Shake became a staple on that tour, and Black Magic Woman got played as well.
― collardio gelatinous, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:31 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZVIEaKV4cI
― Three Word Username, Sunday, 19 August 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
This poll, which I didn't participate sent me back through the entire Buckingham/Nicks-era catalog. In addition to Rumours (and I concur with Al's sentiment that it's pretty clearly the best, revisionism notwithstanding), the first stunner for me in the bunch was "Monday Morning," which is such an effusive way to open this era of their career. I also think Mirage is a pretty underrated record all in all. "Gypsy" and "Hold Me" are incredible singles -- and the production on the whole is kind of a perfect fusion of the Rumours smoothness and Tusk's out of tune guitars (the cover snap is also outstandingly Shakespearian).
One thing: the poll also prompted me to buy the Caillat book, which hipped me to how Lindsey apparently has this long history of physically abusing people -- particularly women (which is confirmed here).
How is this not better known about him? Do people just write it off as the price of genius or something?
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 19 August 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
i read a chunk of Harris' book one long afternoon at the bookstore two summers ago, and while her blithe entitlement got on my nerves I had no reason to doubt the events therein.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 August 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
I believe "Blithe Entitlement" was the original title of Mirage.
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 19 August 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
blithe entitlement is snorting coke with Stevie Nicks in a parked car outside a house where a big early eighties Hollywood party's taking place.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 August 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
I just read the Caillat book too! It was absolutely worth the read. I loved all the little production details. So much great information there. Wish he hadn't been as hung up on Nina from the Record Plant. What a cornball.
― the same dope water as you (how's life), Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
I love this exchange b/w Courtney Love and Nicks:
CL: One thing you've always done, I realized recently, is write about these muses, these other females, these goddesses. These parts of yourself. You don't write big, sexy love ballads about men. I wondered why that was for you? Because I do the same thing. I was listening to a song of Billy Corgan's yesterday called "I Need a Lover." It's sexy, okay. But I'm listening and I'm going, I can't write like this.
SN: You know who else asked me that same question a long time ago: Prince. We were really close for a while--we never went to bed together, but we had something that was very, very special. And he always said, Why don't you write songs that are more sexual? And I said, Well, because that's not the way I am in my real life. I am not a person who walks naked through the house. I will always have something beautiful on. It will be beautiful, and it will enhance me.
Those last two sentences!
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 August 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link
There's so many layers to Courtney's question. It's not clear to me that she's only -or even at all- asking about the lack of explicit sexuality in Stevie's music. The way she frames the question tells me she's trying to find out whether her own muse is as autonomous (from men) and feminist ("these other females", "these goddesses", "these parts of yourself") in spirit as Courtney has made her out to be ("Because I do the same thing").
Stevie's answer is very "Stevie", in that neo-Victorian way of hers, and in its final two sentences(which I doubt she would have uttered circa 1975), somewhat diva-ish. But in that answer too, there's more than that, which I can barely begin to articulate..
I was listening to Bjork yesterday, and it strikes me how different sexuality plays out there. Bjork seems to be perpetually startled by sex (and love too), and she keeps circling around this sense of awe and wonder, and gutturaly celebrating it. With Nicks you could say, well, she wants to cover "nakedness" up in something beautiful, and in this way she's just a big prude. But I think it's something else. I think, unlike Guomundsdottir, she's just not at all startled by her sexuality, or even desire more broadly, at all. If anything, what she's "startled" by (constantly disappointed by, more precisely) is the other side of it: the frustration of desire, the loss of the the loved one, and the ensuing aftermath of mourning or melancholy ("I know I could have loved you but you would not let me").
― collardio gelatinous, Monday, 20 August 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
He was kinda corny across the board though, no? It's one of the things I liked about the book. The guy outwardly acquired all the accoutrements of 70s California cool - the gig, the car, the babes, the deductible cocaine- but throughout it he retains a "wow gee-whiz" tone about the whole thing. He comes across as genuinely digging and respecting the people around him, without being blind to their flaws.
― collardio gelatinous, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
Agreed -- I thought it was a great read. How could you not be jealous of him?
You know, aside from the whole Lindsey-choking-him thing.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
I have just now realized Lindsey is playing here in town tonight. Snapped up a ticket pronto. Made me glad for this poll having reignited my Lindsey interest.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link
I saw him in August: a brief, intense performance. Terrific.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, that was a great show. I liked the contrast between his zenned-out stage patter and the taut, manic playing. Rock and roll.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 04:04 (eleven years ago) link
I showed Christine McVie a little bit of love.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 December 2018 12:28 (five years ago) link
I will forever believe that the chorus to “Hold Me” was cooked up by Lindsey in the studio and that he deserves a writing credit. The original refrain is shit.
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 17 December 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link
Sounds like he added the background gremlins and tightened the lyric?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbYV6PO6UKY
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2018 20:23 (five years ago) link
xp :) every good blog post starts with a pre-emptive riposte to the reader
― Karl Malone, Monday, 17 December 2018 20:23 (five years ago) link
Christine stands in opposition to the general narrative that Lindsay came on board and pushed the band into being a pop juggernaut (not to diminish his contributions)
but Christine's style and songwriting was already pretty established, there's stuff in the Bob Welch/Kirwin era that could easy slot into FM or Rumours
― No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 December 2018 20:31 (five years ago) link
like this for example, love this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmJtRnazW20
Is there a good 70s or 80s live version of “angel” on any sanctioned release or good boot?
― calstars, Monday, 15 April 2019 00:29 (five years ago) link
I shouldve voted for Coming Home & the 74 Angel. Heroes is a bit of a monster; prob Bob Welch's finest hour (while Christine is warming up for the s/t next year)
― everdose of cloverness (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 14 December 2023 08:29 (four months ago) link
Bad Loser too tbh
― they call her the sweet omega (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 14 December 2023 08:51 (four months ago) link
Don't Stop over Sands of Time and Woman of 1000 Years? Criminal.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 14 December 2023 13:37 (four months ago) link
A few years ago, I bought four of the early-'70s albums as budget CDs: Future Games, Bare Trees, Mystery to Me, and Heroes Are Hard to Find. I did play them all in the car, but only once and put them away. Took them out again last week and was really struck by two instrumentals (well, one's a near-instrumental): "Sunny Side of Heaven" and "Safe Harbour."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxUtZSdXy6A
They only got one vote between them in this poll--would have added them to my ballot for sure, also "Forever."
― clemenza, Friday, 23 February 2024 02:12 (one month ago) link
I'd never heard Behind the Mask, but the other day my shuffle gave me something that I assumed was Christine solo, but no. Behind the Mask. It was ok.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 February 2024 02:18 (one month ago) link
I want to buy the one CD I'm missing in that sequence above, Penguin, but it's not part of the same budget series and very over-priced on Amazon for some reason ($35 used plus shipping).
― clemenza, Friday, 23 February 2024 02:22 (one month ago) link
Bare Trees sounds like its sleeve: spare, wintry, fragile.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 February 2024 02:29 (one month ago) link
I wasn’t familiar with Prove Your Love until it was in that HBO show about the Lakers a couple years back. That was a nice surprise
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Sunday, 25 February 2024 04:45 (one month ago) link
A compilation focused on those post-Green, pre-N&B years would've been very welcome, but it doesn't look like we ever got one. Bare Trees is the best of them though thanks to Kirwan. Based on that album, especially for his solos on songs like "Spare Me a Little of Your Love," I think he could've flourished as the lead guitarist with the later group if they could've made that work, but based on his conversations at the time, he clearly had enough of the band and later his mental illness would make it impossible.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 25 February 2024 07:51 (one month ago) link
(by "making that work," that probably means filling in for Buckingham when he quit/was fired, but by then Kirwan was in no shape to do anything)
― birdistheword, Sunday, 25 February 2024 07:53 (one month ago) link
kirwan replacing buckingham in 1987 would have been so dope
just read Fleetwood's latest autobio, he'll have to write another one, what a life to have to keep updating your autobio, but per Mick he wasn't sure what to do about Danny's nervous breakdown so he consulted Jon Lord after the gig and was convinced to fire him that night, and then he cried afterwards
where were the adults, anyways it's kind of a sad read, reads sadder than the 94 autobio, feel like maybe rock star is not a good job
― Florin Cuchares, Sunday, 25 February 2024 11:28 (one month ago) link
Play On, from 2014? Or is there something newer?
― Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro), Monday, 26 February 2024 03:34 (one month ago) link
yeah that's the latest, covers everything up to Christine tentatively joining back up and working out new material, which I guess turned into the Buckingham/McVie record, on account of Stevie not being at all interested in writing/recording
Mick talks very wistfully about his dalliance with Stevie, was pretty intense apparently before he traded her for her best friend lol, what a shitshow
his greatest regret seems to be the wild ass drama he subjected his kids to, which was a lot but at least he understands how shitty that was and is repentant
― Florin Cuchares, Monday, 26 February 2024 04:08 (one month ago) link
wow how interesting. am now curious to learn more. i recently discovered Mystery to Me - was amazed. what a beautiful start to finish conceit.
― Swen, Monday, 26 February 2024 04:18 (one month ago) link
I want to buy the one CD I'm missing in that sequence above, Penguin
It's completely forgettable. McVie and Welch are on autopilot, and the new "lead singer" performs on two songs that have nothing to do with Fleetwood Mac. Christine plays some nice piano on "Road Runner", that's the highlight.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 2 March 2024 04:17 (one month ago) link
I really like “Remember Me” and “Dissatisfied.”
― birdistheword, Saturday, 2 March 2024 04:57 (one month ago) link
Actually “Did You Ever Love Me” too. I guess I just like Christine’s stuff.
― birdistheword, Saturday, 2 March 2024 05:01 (one month ago) link
I swear Penguin was listed as a new release on the Cherry Red website a few weeks ago, but it's nowhere to be seen now.
― Hideous Lump, Saturday, 2 March 2024 06:46 (one month ago) link
It's not that bad considering the state they were in at the time, pretty impressive turnaround though I'm sure it was stressful
and yeah it totally gave Christine a chance to stretch out a little more which totally saved the band several times, Christine McMVP
also Penguin is a really good album cover, maybe the best Fleetwood Mac album cover
― Florin Cuchares, Saturday, 2 March 2024 08:20 (one month ago) link
i recently discovered Mystery to Me - was amazed. what a beautiful start to finish conceit.
yeah what a rebound, fire the singer, keep the guitar player and move the entire band into an old farmhouse in the english countryside, because of course
guitar player and drummer's wife hit it off, drummer is not happy, bass player and keys player are on the rocks, bob welch is over it and eyeing a solo career, make a record you have ~4 weeks
cannot imagine a world where this ragtag crew is subsidized by the upper crust to make Mystery to Me but they sure did
― Florin Cuchares, Saturday, 2 March 2024 08:46 (one month ago) link
bass player and keys player are on the rocks
...and she is supposedly "hitting it off" with the engineer.
This is Bare Trees or Mystery to Me depending on whether I'm up or down, I've actually displayed the latter around the house.
Controversial opinion: Christine's songs on Heroes are Hard to Find are better than what she came up with on the '75 album.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 2 March 2024 13:21 (one month ago) link