~~ Erotic Thrillers of the 80s and 90s ~~

Wild Things is def the connoisseur's choice here

Like is this regarded as being in the same canon as Showgirls? Why is this not Showgirls-level notorious?

It isn't. Because it's not as much a masterpiece as Showgirls.

Stevie everything you're hating on is being done v v deliberately by Wild Things. It's directed by John McNaughton!

and it's really not like people don't KNOW that Wild Things is a ridiculous movie

I saw it in the cinema and we laughed so much that a guy who was not there to enjoy it in the same way got up and left

This poll was so long ago I forgot what I voted for! I thought I had voted for Jade but obviously not.

I'm not hating! It just, I don't know, didn't seem deliberate in its boring cliches (look, a rowdy classroom! You can tell its rowdy because someone is throwing a paper airplane!) and stuff. I know nothing of the director. It just felt like it was supposed to be dramatic/thrilling in adult way and not a comedy but who knows. I enjoyed it.

Wasn't Bill Murray in this?

But it seemed to take itself seriously though

Also the DVD I picked up for 99c is pan & scan and they did THE WORST job of panning. For fucking real half the film looks like a Jim Blashfield animation.

xp yeah which just added to the wtfness

Wild Things is AWESOME watched it the other night actually. so much fun.

Wasn't Bill Murray in this?

wearing a hat!

I think the only thing it takes "seriously" is the class warfare angle. the Bacon/Dillon thing is BLATANTLY super-gay! part of the joke is how both of them are total amoral pervs!

love McNaughton

Of course it's blatantly super-gay but it was just frustrating that someone somewhere was like "okay just NO KISSING OR TOUCHING bcz that would weird people out"

I'm going to rewatch it soon and maybe I'll have a diff approach but idk maybe I just went into it wrong or it's more deadpan than I realize or something *shrug*

y'know, I've never seen Basic Instinct. how bad is it.

kind of amazing Body Double got zero votes, I'd probably rate that over Dressed to Kill these days

basic instinct is classic
gotta see it!

never been able to find a copy of Poison Ivy tbh

try your local blockbuster

Other thread on these monuments of the filmic arts:

'An erotic thriller'

lol xp

Also,

I love Jade, but any movie starring Caruso should be disqualified from being "erotically thrilling".

= truth bomb

never seen Basic Instinct either, but somehow have read most of two different Ezterhaus books

wait, 80s/90s erotic thrillers... and no "Hot Spot" !!??

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As for De Palma, it's almost 90s but "Femme Fatale" was one silly movie (and the main action took place in the street I used to live in !)

I saw Body Double for the first time recently, it's really good fun, particularly the Frankie Goes to Hollywood section, which makes no sense at all but is really fun/sleazy.

yeah the film def ratchets the insanity up a notch for that sequence

o_0 @ the credits on Hot Spot: The Hot Spot is a 1990 American neo-noir film directed by Dennis Hopper and based on the 1952 book Hell Hath No Fury by Charles Williams, who also co-wrote the screenplay. It stars Don Johnson, Virginia Madsen, and Jennifer Connelly, and features a score by Jack Nitzsche played by John Lee Hooker, Miles Davis, Taj Mahal, Roy Rogers, and drummer Earl Palmer.

To the best of my recollection, only one erotic thriller was made in the 1980s and it was Crimes of Passion.

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We need more erotic thrillers like this. The world's a crazy place. Instead of Star Wars: Nerd Wars 12 and Marvel's Spandex Heroes or whatever the fuck's out there now.

crimes of passion is totally bugfuck iirc

I remember Bound being a very bad and not sexy Coen bros pastiche with comedy mafioso bad guys.

I'd add Red Rock West, one of the classic 1990s "let's get something from the video store with one of the Twin Peaks girls" movies.

The Wachowskis did Bound immediately before The Matrix

It is terrible, the wachowskis are incompetent

that is not true!

Red Rock West was great. There were a good handful of neo-noir flicks at the time. RRW and Kill Me Again, with Joanne Whalley-Kilmer, stood out. Slam Dance was good one, too.

More germain to this thread, Caroline at Midnight is one I haven't seen on DVD yet. Mia Sara and "Wings"' Tim Daly.

basic instinct is essentially verhoeven remaking vertigo with a joe eszterhas script, it's awesome and upsetting. doesn't quite reach the peak of art trash that showgirls does but that's a precarious peak anyway

basic instinct is overdue a critical reassessment imo

Michael Douglas dancing in a disco in a sleeveless tank top is an indelible image

Whatever it's worth, it's an incredibly entertaining movie

boy is it ever, it’s all i can think about every time i see michael douglas in anything xp

Basic Instinct was not the best of the erotic thrillers but it really was some kind of apex. Verhoeven is a very intelligent guy making a fairly smart flick about an extremely stupid man who is basically seduced and destroyed by an obvious psychopath because he decides the sex is going to be worth it.

Michael Douglas is quite good, he takes his Black Rain and Fatal Attraction roles, adds the dumb twist, a bit of Pacino in Cruising, and voila.

Sharon Stone is exceptional though, I mean it’s a very brave performance in a lot of ways (beyond the obvious) and she’s just alive and fully committed to it.

Good point about Stone. Makes one wonder why Sliver was so stiff and joyless in contrast.

*coughbillybaldwincough*

also: in basic instinct stone gets to play a playful, manipulative vamp with a murderous streak while in sliver she is a proto-anastasia steel with a sleek bob haircut and has to pretend to find the idea of billy baldwin jerking off in front of a bank of crt monitors irresistibly sexy

Speaking as a hopelessly cishet person, the appeal of most of these men is going to elude me. That said, merely the fact that Douglas was a sex symbol for most of my lifetime is still bewildering. I mean, he was kinda roguish and self-mocking in Romancing the Stone but otherwise? Gah.

in Sliver, they decided to cast Stone in the Michael Douglas type role. also the Billy Baldwin stuff is toothless because he's not even the killer, he's just a dopey voyeur.

My very Baptist dad took me and my little sister to Basic Instinct when we were kids. He didn't know it was a hard R type flick. Aside from the constant cringing, I remember being totally into it. "She's evil... she's brilliant!"

my podcast is doing 9 1/2 weeks of erotic thrillers curated by ilxor Mandee

She picked some good ones. Animal Instincts is a cuck cop movie.