i am also a woody allen and courtney love stan. i am like this about 2 million people, though; it would take me forever to think of them all. peyton manning, obvs.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link
faulkner--though i know he has his faults
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Tove Jansson
― thunda lightning (clotpoll), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Brian Bendis, though it pains me to admit it.
― WmC, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 16:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Mario Vargas Llosa.Ricardo Villalobos.Henrik Larsson.
― Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link
what is this word "stan"?
― caek, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost. plus swiftly becoming a Roberto Bolaño stan.
― Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link
― caek, Wednesday, January 21, 2009 5:00 PM (42 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
short for "stanley"
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Arsene Wenger.
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Robyn HitchcockEddie CampbellThomas Pynchon
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link
nrq otm
― cozwn, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link
will stan for jd on occasion myself tho
― cozwn, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Alfred HitchcockThe Mekons
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Sleepytime Gorilla MuseumNabakovDFWMcSweeneysJonathan LethemFoetus
― Barackman Hussein Overdrive (John Justen), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Ernest HemingwayJay-ZRaymond ChandlerBuddhaJonathan LethemAlain Badiou
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 17:45 (fifteen years ago) link
ha xp!
you have good taste in stanning obv
― Barackman Hussein Overdrive (John Justen), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link
I guess for me it would be Prince:
* I own 13 albums by him (and a couple by his side projects), and I'm planning to get all of them eventually.
* I've searched and downloaded all of the B-sides and all of the 12" versions of his singles as 320kbps or FLAC files, plus a 300+ remixes, unreleased tunes and songs he wrote for other artists.
* I've read three different biographies of him.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link
jim woodring (hi-5 oilyrags)ray caesarbilly corganraymond carverdouglas couplandbret easton ellisblaine fontanafaith no more
― just1n3, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link
oh yeah also matthew barney for me
― Barackman Hussein Overdrive (John Justen), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link
damn hoos.
alain badiou is a pseudo-xtian creep, the last barrel-scraping from 1968TM.
― special guest stars mark bronson, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link
oh yeah,
Gilbert Hernandez
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link
post your list, fool
: )
― cozwn, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link
were any of those biographies worth reading, tuomas?
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
israel ><salingergreg dulli
― bnw, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link
and am i a prince stan if i think his last album sucked, but i'm still interested in what he does and think he still has the potential for greatness?
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, i think so. i don't like anything woody allen's done in years. i think i'm defining this as "someone who when other people criticize them, you freak out and defend annoyingly and at great length."
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link
andrew wk
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link
I keep mis-reading this thread title as "what are you a stain of?"
― snoball, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^ hahaha, nice
Courtney LoveThe WireIsabel MarantHillary Clintonthe New England Patriots <3 <3 <3
kind of a ridiculous list, I know. Oh hey wait, I'm not the only one for Court.. :) I love Gilles Deleuze so maybe I know some embarrassingly minute trivia, but it doesn't seem to make up for the fact that it's incredibly hard for me to understand what he's saying about 75% of the time.
― NFL RUNOFF miss u plaxico (daria-g), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link
I just realized that I am a Wicker Man stan too.
― shiitake maki (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link
(xpost) It was a question that I was often asked in my youth...
Serious answer (since the thread is moving beyond bands into other areas): early 80's home computers. Yes, what was once the future is now ancient history. I kind of wish this knowledge had some everyday use in the current IT industry, but it doesn't. Does anyone else find that the amount of knowledge they have on their "stan" subject is inversely proportional to the amount of practical use that knowledge is?
― snoball, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link
can't think of ""someone who when other people criticize them, you freak out and defend annoyingly and at great length"" : /
― cozwn, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link
:-(
― StainM (StanM), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm thinking this kinda fades with age maybe, stanism is a young person's game
― velko, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link
― cozwn, Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:30 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^^ otm. im not a anyone stan.
oh, maybe judd apatow.
― special guest stars mark bronson, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link
― shiitake maki (La Lechera), Wednesday, January 21, 2009 6:30 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
wicker stan!!
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link
can you stan for yourself?
― cozwn, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link
wd that make you lj?
Justin TimberlakeAnton YelchinCassieRichard KellyDavid LynchMichael CeraWeedsAmerican Idol90210
― Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I tried to be a stan for Sting, but he said "don't stan so close to me"...
― snoball, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link
oh also Sega Dreamcast!
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link
The best one I've read is Prince by Dave Hill, which takes a rather critical look on Prince's career, though still written by someone who appreciates his music, so it's not slander or anything. There's also a lot of information on the Minneapolis music scene Prince came from, and some interesting analysis of the racial politics in American popular music. The book came out in 1989 though, so it's not useful if you want to read about his full career.
Slave to the Rhythm by Liz Jones is also a good read if you're more interested in Prince's private life, though the music analysis isn't as good as in Hill's book. I think it is one of the few Prince books where Prince himself (among others) is actually interviewed, though it's not uncritical of him either. Dancemusicsexromance by Per Nilsen is about the first 10 years of Prince's career, and it's almost exclusively about his music only. There's a lot of trivia about recording dates and stuff, and individual analysis of almost everything he recorded between 1978 and 1988, but otherwise it's a bland read. More like a collection of record reviews than a good overall look on his music and career.
Oh, and I just noticed the local library carries a pretty recent book about him written in 2004, so I guess I'm gonna read my fourth Prince biography.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link
my last real crushy fandom was probably robyn
before that, friedrich kittler
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:46 (fifteen years ago) link
All my pedestals have crumbled. Oh, hell, except maybe Muhammad Ali.
― Aimless, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link
ha, is it matos' book? because that is excellent.
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Unfortunately the Helsinki public library doesn't have Matos' book. It's a pity, I'd love to read it. Isn't it about Sign O' the Times only?
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Tove Jansson― thunda lightning (clotpoll), Wednesday, January 21, 2009 4:55 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
― thunda lightning (clotpoll), Wednesday, January 21, 2009 4:55 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
it boggles my mind that tove jansson would ever need defending from anything, but if so put me down for stan-hood.
― tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link
it's about sign o' the times but it brings in a lot of prince history and previous work.
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Ah. A pity it isn't available at the library, and I don't really have the cash to order it from overseas.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link
I like posting.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 13:27 (three years ago) link
https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2020/aug/03/taylor-swift-folklore-hardcore-pop-fans-abusing-critics-stan?
"This is horrible, anti-artistic behaviour from people wanting total consensus. That would be a strange and damaging thing to want even in politics, where some degree of consensus is necessary to make a democracy run. In art though, this impulse is downright fascistic."
Lol @ anti-artistic behaviour. Also berating (mainly) young people for fascism when the parents vote Trump and Tory.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 09:14 (three years ago) link
i give folklore zero stars. take that, stans!!
― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 10:36 (three years ago) link
I did a vote last week, we decided narrowly that everything is bad.
Who are the real villains?* Publications which insist on grading music to decimal places* Obsessive stans who launch petitions to have any non-fawning reviews taken down* Music writers who are still somehow employed in 2020, so must have done kind of faustian pact.— Centuries of Sound (@Centuries_Sound) July 28, 2020
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 11:23 (three years ago) link
I read some people on Facebook commenting that Swift's silence re: the harassment Mapes and Empire was "disgusting". I thought about responding there but decided to type it here.
People decrying Swift's silence, people targeting Mapes for her review, people piling on JK Rowling for being an TERFy idiot, the fact that Swift likely has to deal with a weekly attempt at a break-in, B-list musicians getting stalked, C-list musicians getting stalked-- this is all symptomatic of the same issue. The issue: individuals who have obtained even a modicum of visibility by dint of their occupation become subject to immense demonstrations of onlooker entitlement. Onlookers demonstrate entitlement over the visible individual's attention, their opinions, their bodies, and responding with immense resentment when their entitlement is met with resistance. (I don't want to focus on "stans" because I don't think it's just "stans" who do this-- even certain professional music writers themselves absolutely veer outside the realm of objectivity and demonstrate immense levels of entitlement upon their subject, even to the point of obvious narcissistic abuse.)
"Twitter" is a catalyst, not the problem itself. I don't know what the problem is, but I think it's a metaproblem that is woven into the very fabric of concepts of "visibility" and "culture industry".
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 11:35 (three years ago) link
tbf Rowling would probably not be getting abuse for being a terf is she didn't persistently keep posting terf shit on Twitter
― À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 11:39 (three years ago) link
I'm not saying that Rowling doesn't deserve the abuse, or defending her in any way shape or form. I'm just saying: it's abuse, it's not actually criticism. (You know, forget that I ever mentioned Rowling, to me she's literally not important and I've found over the past month that when I even mention her in passing, people will frothingly defend their inalienable right to frame the transparent online abuse she's received as "criticism", and I feel ridiculous even talking about it any more considering that I, too, agree that Rowling's comments were fucking foul, and I have no personal use for her presence or work in my life henceforth.)
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 11:46 (three years ago) link
I agree that there's a lot of abuse which is beyond the pale, and I agree that people are not fair game because they happen to have some level of celebrity
― À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 11:48 (three years ago) link
Don't use Twitter would seem to be one way out of this.
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 12:03 (three years ago) link
Yes. Several A-list musicians I am acquainted with do not engage with social media in any capacity-- two particularly famous clients don't own phones at all and communicate solely via e-mail. But: Twitter is just a pressure cooker for a broader cultural problem.
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 12:40 (three years ago) link
In what ways does it happen outside of Twitter? Feels like Twitter fuels it behind the scenes either way.
― Evan, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 13:25 (three years ago) link
harassment of people in the public sphere/their relatives happened long before twitter!! harassment can take many forms, it's just easier now
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link
Also, writers/journalists have good reason to feel they must be on twitter for professional reasons
― rob, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link
I suppose I assumed fgti was talking more about when people gang up to do it but I misread.
― Evan, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link