who are you a stan of?

how could I forget

Judith Light
Julie Andrews

Pulp and the Cure and, according to a conversation I found myself having, an old boss who's apparently being taken to court by loads of creditors...

Joan Didion, Souled American

i am also a woody allen and courtney love stan. i am like this about 2 million people, though; it would take me forever to think of them all. peyton manning, obvs.

faulkner--though i know he has his faults

Tove Jansson

Brian Bendis, though it pains me to admit it.

Mario Vargas Llosa.
Ricardo Villalobos.
Henrik Larsson.

what is this word "stan"?

xpost. plus swiftly becoming a Roberto Bolaño stan.

what is this word "stan"?

― caek, Wednesday, January 21, 2009 5:00 PM (42 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

short for "stanley"

Arsene Wenger.

Robyn Hitchcock
Eddie Campbell
Thomas Pynchon

nrq otm

will stan for jd on occasion myself tho

Alfred Hitchcock
The Mekons

Sleepytime Gorilla Museum
Nabakov
DFW
McSweeneys
Jonathan Lethem
Foetus

Ernest Hemingway
Jay-Z
Raymond Chandler
Buddha
Jonathan Lethem
Alain Badiou

ha xp!

you have good taste in stanning obv

I guess for me it would be Prince:

* I own 13 albums by him (and a couple by his side projects), and I'm planning to get all of them eventually.

* I've searched and downloaded all of the B-sides and all of the 12" versions of his singles as 320kbps or FLAC files, plus a 300+ remixes, unreleased tunes and songs he wrote for other artists.

* I've read three different biographies of him.

jim woodring (hi-5 oilyrags)
ray caesar
billy corgan
raymond carver
douglas coupland
bret easton ellis
blaine fontana
faith no more

oh yeah also matthew barney for me

damn hoos.

alain badiou is a pseudo-xtian creep, the last barrel-scraping from 1968TM.

oh yeah,

Gilbert Hernandez

post your list, fool

: )

were any of those biographies worth reading, tuomas?

israel ><
salinger
greg dulli

and am i a prince stan if i think his last album sucked, but i'm still interested in what he does and think he still has the potential for greatness?

yeah, i think so. i don't like anything woody allen's done in years. i think i'm defining this as "someone who when other people criticize them, you freak out and defend annoyingly and at great length."

andrew wk

I keep mis-reading this thread title as "what are you a stain of?"

^^^ hahaha, nice

Courtney Love
The Wire
Isabel Marant
Hillary Clinton
the New England Patriots <3 <3 <3

kind of a ridiculous list, I know. Oh hey wait, I'm not the only one for Court.. :) I love Gilles Deleuze so maybe I know some embarrassingly minute trivia, but it doesn't seem to make up for the fact that it's incredibly hard for me to understand what he's saying about 75% of the time.

I just realized that I am a Wicker Man stan too.

(xpost) It was a question that I was often asked in my youth...

Serious answer (since the thread is moving beyond bands into other areas): early 80's home computers. Yes, what was once the future is now ancient history. I kind of wish this knowledge had some everyday use in the current IT industry, but it doesn't. Does anyone else find that the amount of knowledge they have on their "stan" subject is inversely proportional to the amount of practical use that knowledge is?

can't think of ""someone who when other people criticize them, you freak out and defend annoyingly and at great length"" : /

:-(

i'm thinking this kinda fades with age maybe, stanism is a young person's game

can't think of ""someone who when other people criticize them, you freak out and defend annoyingly and at great length"" : /

― cozwn, Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:30 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^ otm. im not a anyone stan.

oh, maybe judd apatow.

I just realized that I am a Wicker Man stan too.

― shiitake maki (La Lechera), Wednesday, January 21, 2009 6:30 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wicker stan!!

can you stan for yourself?

wd that make you lj?

Justin Timberlake
Anton Yelchin
Cassie
Richard Kelly
David Lynch
Michael Cera
Weeds
American Idol
90210

I tried to be a stan for Sting, but he said "don't stan so close to me"...

oh also Sega Dreamcast!

were any of those biographies worth reading, tuomas?

The best one I've read is Prince by Dave Hill, which takes a rather critical look on Prince's career, though still written by someone who appreciates his music, so it's not slander or anything. There's also a lot of information on the Minneapolis music scene Prince came from, and some interesting analysis of the racial politics in American popular music. The book came out in 1989 though, so it's not useful if you want to read about his full career.

Slave to the Rhythm by Liz Jones is also a good read if you're more interested in Prince's private life, though the music analysis isn't as good as in Hill's book. I think it is one of the few Prince books where Prince himself (among others) is actually interviewed, though it's not uncritical of him either. Dancemusicsexromance by Per Nilsen is about the first 10 years of Prince's career, and it's almost exclusively about his music only. There's a lot of trivia about recording dates and stuff, and individual analysis of almost everything he recorded between 1978 and 1988, but otherwise it's a bland read. More like a collection of record reviews than a good overall look on his music and career.

Oh, and I just noticed the local library carries a pretty recent book about him written in 2004, so I guess I'm gonna read my fourth Prince biography.

my last real crushy fandom was probably robyn

before that, friedrich kittler

All my pedestals have crumbled. Oh, hell, except maybe Muhammad Ali.

Oh, and I just noticed the local library carries a pretty recent book about him written in 2004, so I guess I'm gonna read my fourth Prince biography.

ha, is it matos' book? because that is excellent.

Unfortunately the Helsinki public library doesn't have Matos' book. It's a pity, I'd love to read it. Isn't it about Sign O' the Times only?

Michael Pratini...from one of the greatest footballers of the 80s, to the UEFA scandal, and now this; how can a man sink any lower

He could talk about how he is "on the spectrum" to justify his terrible posts?

if you'll forgive me (don't bother) for lapsing into stan mode, the stan of self, the one true eternal stan: why do you even post, everyone fucking hates you

I like posting.

https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2020/aug/03/taylor-swift-folklore-hardcore-pop-fans-abusing-critics-stan?

"This is horrible, anti-artistic behaviour from people wanting total consensus. That would be a strange and damaging thing to want even in politics, where some degree of consensus is necessary to make a democracy run. In art though, this impulse is downright fascistic."

Lol @ anti-artistic behaviour. Also berating (mainly) young people for fascism when the parents vote Trump and Tory.

i give folklore zero stars. take that, stans!!

I did a vote last week, we decided narrowly that everything is bad.

Who are the real villains?

* Publications which insist on grading music to decimal places
* Obsessive stans who launch petitions to have any non-fawning reviews taken down
* Music writers who are still somehow employed in 2020, so must have done kind of faustian pact.

— Centuries of Sound (@Centuries_Sound) July 28, 2020

I read some people on Facebook commenting that Swift's silence re: the harassment Mapes and Empire was "disgusting". I thought about responding there but decided to type it here.

People decrying Swift's silence, people targeting Mapes for her review, people piling on JK Rowling for being an TERFy idiot, the fact that Swift likely has to deal with a weekly attempt at a break-in, B-list musicians getting stalked, C-list musicians getting stalked-- this is all symptomatic of the same issue. The issue: individuals who have obtained even a modicum of visibility by dint of their occupation become subject to immense demonstrations of onlooker entitlement. Onlookers demonstrate entitlement over the visible individual's attention, their opinions, their bodies, and responding with immense resentment when their entitlement is met with resistance. (I don't want to focus on "stans" because I don't think it's just "stans" who do this-- even certain professional music writers themselves absolutely veer outside the realm of objectivity and demonstrate immense levels of entitlement upon their subject, even to the point of obvious narcissistic abuse.)

"Twitter" is a catalyst, not the problem itself. I don't know what the problem is, but I think it's a metaproblem that is woven into the very fabric of concepts of "visibility" and "culture industry".

tbf Rowling would probably not be getting abuse for being a terf is she didn't persistently keep posting terf shit on Twitter

I'm not saying that Rowling doesn't deserve the abuse, or defending her in any way shape or form. I'm just saying: it's abuse, it's not actually criticism. (You know, forget that I ever mentioned Rowling, to me she's literally not important and I've found over the past month that when I even mention her in passing, people will frothingly defend their inalienable right to frame the transparent online abuse she's received as "criticism", and I feel ridiculous even talking about it any more considering that I, too, agree that Rowling's comments were fucking foul, and I have no personal use for her presence or work in my life henceforth.)

I agree that there's a lot of abuse which is beyond the pale, and I agree that people are not fair game because they happen to have some level of celebrity

Don't use Twitter would seem to be one way out of this.

Yes. Several A-list musicians I am acquainted with do not engage with social media in any capacity-- two particularly famous clients don't own phones at all and communicate solely via e-mail. But: Twitter is just a pressure cooker for a broader cultural problem.

In what ways does it happen outside of Twitter? Feels like Twitter fuels it behind the scenes either way.

harassment of people in the public sphere/their relatives happened long before twitter!! harassment can take many forms, it's just easier now

Also, writers/journalists have good reason to feel they must be on twitter for professional reasons

I suppose I assumed fgti was talking more about when people gang up to do it but I misread.