At what age did you lose your virginity?

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lol

Tartar Mouantcheoux (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 July 2012 09:33 (eleven years ago) link

Not intended to be funny; it's actually kinda sad. Orwellian even. Newspeak didn't have a word that meant "freedom" so the people couldn't dream up and discuss the concept since there was no word that described it. When the main terminology we have for experiencing sex for the first time is wrapped up in words like "lose" and "take" and "put out", we're robbed of the ability to describe how it really does feel, often enriching rather than feeling as if you're less complete than you were because you're missing something you previously had. When these things are baked into the language, accurate and eloquent thought suffers.

"making love" is a phrase that isn't necessarily sex positive?

Tartar Mouantcheoux (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 July 2012 09:48 (eleven years ago) link

It was less clinical than most non-obscene alternatives

lol

starfish entryprize (darraghmac), Monday, 16 July 2012 10:15 (eleven years ago) link

I agree w your broader point but yeah "making love" doesn't work in there for several reasons. "Fucking" would because I can do that w/somebody I love or not & it's still an awesome experience. Which is the better part of your broader point, that fucking is awesome and doing it for the first time isn't a loss of anything any more than me eating a sandwich for the first time is a loss. But then people do talk about "losing their (non-sexual experience) virginity" - this is just more xian hangover I think with a whopping side-order of Blake & Wordsworth

tallarico dreams (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 16 July 2012 12:01 (eleven years ago) link

whipping, shurely

starfish entryprize (darraghmac), Monday, 16 July 2012 12:07 (eleven years ago) link

Losing one's virginity is better suited to describing "the first time I ate papaya salad" or "the first time I listened to Siouxsie"

Ówen P., Monday, 16 July 2012 12:14 (eleven years ago) link

At what age did you gain your non-virginity?

pplains, Monday, 16 July 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

p sure there was a kid in india born without one, tho iirc they found a donor p quickly by targetting d&d forums

starfish entryprize (darraghmac), Monday, 16 July 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link

I think the word Leeeee is looking for is "jamming" or "rocking out"

well, now I'm turned off of sex forever

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Monday, 16 July 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link

lol

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EDB, Monday, 16 July 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I kind of cringe at "losing ones virginity". It's sounds careless whereas I was actively pursuing the state of non-virginity when I finally got lucky.

Et tant pis pour Byzance puisque que j´ai vu Pigalle (Michael White), Monday, 16 July 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

i'll bet this phrase is better in finnish

mookieproof, Monday, 16 July 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

Hei me Tehdään non Vïrrgnitus!

pplains, Monday, 16 July 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

i gained my blessing at 27, proper adult virgin. was alright, nice but weird. unfortunately, i let it spin out into a difficult five-year relationship, which i probably wouldn't have charged into if i hadn't waited so long.

contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 06:35 (eleven years ago) link

ten mins to lose yr virginity, the next five years arguing about the details?

starfish entryprize (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 06:43 (eleven years ago) link

haha, i had the same thought.

estela, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 06:54 (eleven years ago) link

poll is in the wrong tense

buzza, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 07:10 (eleven years ago) link

xxp lol yeah

occurs to me that "lose your virginity" isn't necessarily so victorian prudish in contemporary use. to my mind, it suggests the deliberate abandonment of childish naivete and restriction. people say "i finally lost my virginity," like it was an awful burden to begin with.

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 00:23 (eleven years ago) link

tbh, kind of is. all those misconceptions of sex society foists on you, unburdened

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 00:25 (eleven years ago) link

as lonng as it's only misconception

starfish entryprize (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link

time to make a quick withdrawal from this convo

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 00:34 (eleven years ago) link

seriously, avoid missusconception at all costs

sarahell, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 00:35 (eleven years ago) link

I was 20 or 21(I know the year but I don't remember what part of the year it was), which felt terribly old at the time but doesn't sound as bad to me now. It was awful, fwiw. The girl kept biting my lip way too hard and being weirdly aggressive.

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 00:40 (eleven years ago) link

time to make a quick withdrawal from this convo

pullout method isn't reliable

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 00:46 (eleven years ago) link

still counts, dad

mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link

kind of hard to define virginity for a gay male. for me: 1st bj @ 14 which is young, but first anal at 23-ish, which is a lot later. can't remember whether i topped or bottomed first, but i'm pretty sure that many months passed between doing each for the first time.

Je55e, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link

butt-first anal

Je55e, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link

well sure, but when did you first destroy god's covenant of love between a man and a woman

mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 01:45 (eleven years ago) link

kisses are pretty special tho

mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

I already answered upthread (17) but I guess it was a little strange in that it took a couple trys. Boyfriend at the time was living in DE and we'd planned to do it on one of my visits there. So we're making out in his basement and it gets to that time so he runs upstairs to get a condom but when he returned he couldn't get it up. Mortified he got tears in his eyes and tried to explain that he was nervous because it was my first time. The next night we thought ahead and brought the condom down to the basement. This time he lost it as soon as he went to put it on. I was devastated and convinced it was something with me. We tried a third time when he came to visit me a couple months later. It was sweet and fine and didn't hurt even a tiny bit. If anything I was sort of like, "Huh, that's what all the fuss is about?". I guess I thought it would be a BIG MOMENT while it was just another thing that happened. I remember joking afterwards and asking him if I looked different and he said "You look like a tall beautiful pixie". lol.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 01:51 (eleven years ago) link

x-post - Indeed they are.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 01:52 (eleven years ago) link

aww

mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 01:54 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, it was cute. He was a good egg. Still is. He's married with 2 kids and is a PI!

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link

I was also a little "nervous" my first time. Way too much expectation is put on it. It's something that you get better at with practice.

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 02:17 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah. It wasn't his first time though but pressure certainly played a part in what happened. He was mostly nervous about being with me and because it was mine. He wanted it to be special, I think.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 02:19 (eleven years ago) link

but not alone practice.

xpost

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 02:19 (eleven years ago) link

for me the Big Event was kind of a formality because we had been getting each other off by hand or mouth 1-3x a day for like half a year already. I was 15 & we were both going at it one Saturday, but in the house instead of the car because neither of my parents were home & I had the house for the day. I knew where there was a condom so in the middle of playing around it was like hell yes let's do this & so we did & it was cool if not for me as satisfying as The Other Stuff One Does

tallarico dreams (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link

omg enbb that's really really sweet.

19, on a beach. not my best idea. sand everywhere for days. later she gave me a handjob as we drove back into the city. the lights! the lights were much better than the sand. i did not crash the car.

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 02:32 (eleven years ago) link

here's my story, i'm sure you're all huddling over your laptops now. lost virginity part one at 15 to two guys from new zealand i met on the internet when they visited nyc. i was a bored, weird kid with null parents, probably not my best judgment there. lost virginity part two at 18 to my first long-term girlfriend. nervous as hell, had trouble getting "it" up. the fun wasn't the sex, i was too nervous to feel much, but the whole moment felt special, especially since it was the first girl i had some Real Connection with, which was rare as fuck growing up in a town where shirtless rednecks ride in the dozens on the backs of pick-up trucks throwing empty budweiser cans at anyone who "looks funny".

Spectrum, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 02:34 (eleven years ago) link

ha yeah the technical aspect of fulfilling this requirement was actually pretty anti-climactic, so to speak.

in some ways remembering it is disappointing, because she was (and is) ridiculously beautiful and awesome and later gave me 'steppenwolf' for my birthday.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link

I drove to a different time zone with her to make an event out of it. Couldn't get the rubber on right and she finally said, oh just put it in. I did and it was like trying to insert myself into a keyhole.

I remember driving back to where we lived and thinking, sooooo I guess I'm not a virgin anymore. Didn't feel one ounce different.

About a week later, went back to her place and that time it was for real. She teased me for the longest time for going "ooooh, I get it now!"

pplains, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 03:44 (eleven years ago) link

I guess the first time could be good if you had no idea what sex was and someone talked you through the intro and you had no preconceptions or ideas. After you get the hang of it, pretty ok, eh?

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 03:54 (eleven years ago) link

My favorite joke from age 10-15 ended with the punchline "But look what it did to my clam digger!"

pplains, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 04:24 (eleven years ago) link

There was never moment in my life when I realized I wasn't a virgin anymore. After the first one at 14, I got another bj at 15, but it never occurred to me that I might not still be a virgin (esp. b/c I thought I was straight). Did some really awkward making out and manual stuff w/ girls at 18-ish, then some oral w/ guys at 18 or 19, which certainly didn't count, and gradually over the years, dick converged w/ butt, but by that time I it didn't occur to me that I might still be a virgin. It was a glacial deflowering.

When I think about the bjs at 14 and 15, I feel a little disappointed and very disgusted with homophobia. They were very exciting bjs, but I got them from 30-40-something guys while cruising (I was very precocious in this skill), and it makes me a little sad that I never got the chance to explore and discover (and invent!) sex with a boy I knew, maybe of a similar age. I had quite number of opportunities to date or fool around w/ girls in middle and high schools, and I feel sure I would have taken advantage of them if I had been straight (though maybe I was getting female attention b/c I wasn't lovesick or a horndog toward them). People learn a lot from dating and sexual-romantic pursuits during adolescence, and a lot of gay kids miss out on some really valuable lessons.

The barrier of homophobia aside, for me there was the ridiculous matter of attending a high school w/ a total student body of <100, 40 miles from home. Not only was it unfeasible to have a social life of any real substance, there was no fucking way I (or almost any gay kid) would risk being outed and ostracized in such a tiny social pool (esp. one w/ such a high redneck demographic).

Je55e, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 04:31 (eleven years ago) link

Soz if that's a bummer.

Lighter stuff: There was actually one time when I really, really felt like a virginity was lost, and that was when at age 31 I first went down on a woman. I was thrilled!

Je55e, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 04:32 (eleven years ago) link

Je55e you're amazing

Ówen P., Wednesday, 18 July 2012 04:38 (eleven years ago) link

I can't contribute to this thread, disclosure-wise

Except that me and my current bf "did it" for the first time on the night of the 2003 blackout and it was pretty much the best day/night ever, looking forward to an electricity-free future

Ówen P., Wednesday, 18 July 2012 04:41 (eleven years ago) link


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