Dublin

thanks everyone - this is more than enough to be getting on with

The Black Sheep on Capel Street is less smelly new location of Against The Grain crew.

this sounds good, fuck going way southside for a drink when i have to get the 42 from my parents' place covertly drinking a can lest i get beheaded or whatever the current sentence in ireland for peacefully drinking a cannister of liquid which contains alcohol as opposed to a cannister of liquid which doesn't is.

northside till i die.

major re-evaluation goin on here

what do you mean? (genuine question...)

no wait, you're from malahide or somewhere iirc?

Spiritually southside imo

Xp lol just that yr a southsider in my head

i'm probly gonna be living in clontarf this time next week, so it's not like i can talk tbf....

i can't claim any northside cred at all yeah, though i do think even malahide or howth, posh as they are, breeds a diff type of person to actual southside. posh southside has a more urban insular quality, malahide is a bit of a backwater, county dublin etc.

i did go to belvedere tho so there you go. yet again, a sort of difference from its southside counterparts but kinda the same.

what does fucking infuriate me is a few years in london of nobody understanding my voice on the phone has given me a nasal voice that suddenly makes any irish person think i'm from blackrock. this never happened until the last year or two. not that i had a huge north accent before but it's defo a swing based on having had to work in bbc.

heh do you sound like wogan, i wonder

I've started hypercorrecting my r's after years of English people going "or what?" and I kind of hate myself for it. Not that Greystones ever gave me a credible accent in the first place but still.

oo-er misses /frankiehowerd

heh do you sound like wogan, i wonder

my entire family are from limerick too, it's a similar fusion.

that's why you love that youtube selecta so much i guess....

i have been speaking in phrases from it for months, with many people i know bruv.

it's always mememe with u ppl

Well if you're darting it to Malahide they have another place near Connolly. Or is that the one on Dorset Street? They've kind of done a Porterhouse on it.

I agree with DMac, Howth is spiritually Southside. Sutton as well.

I too shall move soon to leafy Northside. Also Clontarf area. This is all most strange.

Has there been a Dublin FAP recently or was the one a few years ago the last one?

Dare it even be suggested? Is this the most passive aggressive FAP suggestion of all time? I don't care, not bothered, etc.

Oh yeah DV spot on re. Lord Edward. I also like Bull & Castle for draught Metalman.

Spiritually southside imo

Malahide... the South Side's West Berlin.

i'm probly gonna be living in clontarf this time next week, so it's not like i can talk tbf....

Just a short walk away from Barcode... RAPPEH, and an excuse to post this link again:http://www.dublinpubscene.com/thepubs/barcode.html

Goddamn full justification.

Well if you're darting it to Malahide they have another place near Connolly.

yeah, people keep saying it is good. But I am developing a slight reaction against the AtG/Black Sheep/OtherOne empire - the beer might be nice, but some of Dublin's oldschool pubs are nicer.

jesus@that barcode link. the 42 nightlink became significantly nastier when it started stopping outside that kip.

Bleedin rappeh!

I'd forgotten that DV, Is it still going I wonder.

I hear you re. Realaleification of Dublin. It does make a nice change though.

What is Hogans like now they have No Name Bar upstairs? Haven't been out that way in yonks.

that no name bar is kinda crap in my view, tho i was last there a good year or so ago, maybe more. just a big noisy sparse drink box.

i can't stop reading the barcode comments and thinking how everyone who posted them will die one day.

To summarise: FAP at Barcode then?

Bleedin rappeh!

looking forward to being in dublin next month for a couple of days!

i genuinely struggle to imagine what i would talk to a non-ilf ilxor about irl tbh

The magic of indoor plumbing?

is barcode near clontarf castle

Sadly not! Sure you could taxi out. Getting back would be a problem.

because I'd be dead

barcode is the sort of place that gives getting completely fucking trollied a bad name.

Hairy Lemon. It is a mystery why it prevails and yet I am expected to go tomorrow night. Could be worse. Could be the Market Bar. Or Hogans. Man, what happened to Hogans?

never went to barcode in the end

Tell me all.

I suppose you went for all the hackneyed locations. I dunno why Barcode doesn't do well, it could set itself up in Cara as the anti-Johnny Foxs.

it does amazingly well, or it did when i lived in bac.

didn't get up to all that much exciting tbh

was delayed 10hrs by ryanair on our flight out so lost a day. had some americans in tow so did a lot of touristy stuff: merrion sq, national gallery, the guinness storehouse. pints & the dublin game at the duke off dawson st., food at elephant & castle in temple bar was OK.

will say dublin is very pretty in places; the georgian townhouses are gorgeous

That is rough re. Ryanair. A pity that you lost so much time. Still, looks like you made the touristy best of what time you had.

Not sure if this is the best place to post this but:

I live in Northern California (flying out of SF, Sacramento or Oakland) and have traveled to Europe twice in the last 2 years, planning a third and no matter how widely I search, going on 3 years, flying into Dublin is the cheapest in western Europe by a margin of about $300. I never really hear anyone else mention this, though, irl or online...I feel like most transatlantic travelers don't share my experience in finding Dublin flights so cheap? I love Dublin, but would love to see a new city en route to my ultimate destination, Valencia, Spain. Any tips, other places to search, insights into this huge price gap would be greatly appreciated.

Long haul taxes are low out of Dublin and there's lots of competition between airlines. Frankfurt and Amsterdam might be worth checking though.

i got propositioned tonight walking up behind the mespil (i think?)

jaysus i didnt think that happened. dublin, eh? its not like back at home at all at all.

in Dublin Airport for a short-ish layover today & unlike my last flight on Aer Lingus a few years back, the flight staff spoke no Irish today/last night. but I notice lots of signs in both English and Irish. is this just for tourists or is there a substantial community of people here who prefer to read Irish? is there a real move toward bilingualism here?

Irish is the official language. All official documentation/signage is in both languages.

fair q

the answer will depend on who you ask

I'm from a Gaeltacht myself but haven't got great Irish. we had a few houses that the mandated inspector knew to visit to be able to stamp the forms to allow the nod/wink of culture claim and cash flow to the area from the approving Dublin middle class, who speak Irish (having the resources to teach it and send their kids off to the strange and foreign west to learn it each summer). where I'm from, we were much more worried about getting practical subjects so we could hopefully get jobs or bring jobs locally someday.

that never came about, obv. we'd have been better learning our gaeilge, how to weave baskets and act as if life out west hasn't changed since our grandfathers' time. that's p much the only industry coming to the gaeltachts any time soon, aping past poverty for tourists and hobbying dubs.

ito the language, there's a huge scam driven by a range of cabals attempting to sell the pretends of Irish as a living tongue, using a gamed census form and spin to radically overstate the extent to which people use or can use it in everyday life. throwing it on signs, insisting on tramlnslation of all forms/services, EU docs, legislation, making it compulsory to study it until leaving school, the whole thing is a cod and a farce driven by a tiny group of actual gaeilgeoirs from the Gaeltacht (most of whom speak better English), hobby gaeilgeoirs from elsewhere that have a fetish for a famines west, and a few literary scholars who need to drum up work.

I don't have a chip on my shoulder about this at all btw

huh, interesting. I wonder if there are other nations with an official language that isn't dominant in the communication of most of that nation's people. the examples that I'd consider would all be former European colonies where the official language is a European language but most people speak an indigenous language. but that's not the case in Ireland.

French in Canada is an obvious one

-- Do you understand what he says? Stephen asked her.

-- Is it French you are talking, sir? the old woman said to Haines.

Haines spoke to her again a longer speech, confidently.

-- Irish, Buck Mulligan said. Is there Gaelic on you?

-- I thought it was Irish, she said, by the sound of it. Are you from west, sir?

-- I am an Englishman, Haines answered.

-- He's English, Buck Mulligan said, and he thinks we ought to speak Irish in Ireland.

-- Sure we ought to, the old woman said, and I'm ashamed I don't speak the language myself. I'm told it's a grand language by them that knows.

I just saw a guy in a kilt while sitting here in the airport Burger King; now all my stay in Ireland needs for full ~~~~authenticness~~~~ is for me to scarf down a bag of Taytos

not all, but urgent certainly

In Dublin for a couple of nights next week - are there any nice guides for events in the centre of town? Any arthouse cinemas etc.

lighthouse in Smithfield or the ifi in temple bar are yr bets.

I hesitate to propose a fap but fap?