d'angelo - voodoo - classic or dud?

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aw that concert recording got taken down :(

♆ (gr8080), Thursday, 12 July 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

:(

chain the color of am0n (The Reverend), Thursday, 12 July 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

mary/d shows are outta my reach; guess i'm waiting for nyc show

one month passes...

hmmm missed his show tonight...

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 August 2012 01:43 (eleven years ago) link

Gonna try to catch them here. MJB is always good, and D'Angelo was great years ago.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 August 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

If you were going to trim this album down to approx 60 minutes in length, which tracks would you leave off?

I think I'd be tempted to get rid of:
3. "Left & Right" (feat. Method Man & Redman) 4:46
5. "Send It On" 5:57
11. "Greatdayindamornin' / Booty" 7:35

Leaving:
1. "Playa Playa" 7:07
2. "Devil's Pie" 5:21
4. "The Line" 5:15
6. "Chicken Grease"4:36
7. "One Mo'Gin" 6:15
8. "The Root" 6:33
9. "Spanish Joint" 5:44
10. "Feel Like Makin' Love" 6:22
12. "Untitled (How Does It Feel)" 7:10
13. "Africa" 6:13

Want to play this at our record club tomorrow, but we have a 60-minute time limit.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

would switch out devil's pie and send it on with those restrictions.
and possibly untitled withgreatdayindamornin depending on what day you found me

What am I, in France? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

Can't endorse the cutting of send it on

Binder, Binder & (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, don't leave out "Untitled." That's dumb.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

i would cut zero seconds of this album least of all "send it on," jesus christ

anyway the re-issue of this is so great, the new liners were a great read

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 January 2013 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

who wrote em?

thomp ynchon (some dude), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

Just take off your shirt and flex at anyone that tries to pull the album after an hour

Binder, Binder & (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

Gotta leave Untitled in - the rest of the guys wont have heard it before, and I'd need to explain the album's legacy (and hence that video) in my introduction to it.

Left & Right just feels jarring to me now (mainly for Method and Red, though they might be good orienting devices for one guy who's a Wu fan).

No one else at our little club has heard it at all, and I think it'll be a very difficult record to get a handle on for them.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

Switch in Send it On for Africa. Untitled works as a great closer.

tsrobodo, Monday, 7 January 2013 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

man, africa is timeless; be real

What am I, in France? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

yeah "Africa" is too great

thomp ynchon (some dude), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

love ?uestlove's homage to "I Wonder U" on that

thomp ynchon (some dude), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

nick i think it's nice you're starting a record club at an old-folks home, but really i think the time limit is unnecessary, what else are these people gonna do with their day

fiscal cliff paul (k3vin k.), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

It's been pointed out to me that Send It On's the one with the mournful horns, so that's staying.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

i am frankly not a fan of devil's pie in context of this album

What am I, in France? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

How come?

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

feels awkward and rockish-y to me; always has

What am I, in France? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

who wrote em?

― thomp ynchon (some dude), Monday, January 7, 2013 10:32 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

jason king... which made it extra funny when people were trying to slander him for that r&b thing

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 January 2013 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

also never a big fan of untitled, historical importance be damned

What am I, in France? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

i mean some of it is of course redundant if you know the history/mythology of the album but there's still some really good technical stuff (a lot about the timing of the drums and the bass) plus some interesting historical connections made

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 January 2013 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

for christ's sake, forks

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 January 2013 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

I Love Africa but if time is a concern it makes sense to x it.

tsrobodo, Monday, 7 January 2013 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

time being a concern is at odds with the very ethos of this album, so it doesn't even make sense to me to discuss it

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 January 2013 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, Voodoo kind of bends time.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 7 January 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know. The mumbled lyrics in Devil's Pie are all "gotta get up, get outta bed, get some coffee, and go to work. I don't have time to kiss you there."

xpost

Binder, Binder & (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 7 January 2013 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

Read what ?uestlove has to say about working with D'Angelo here. Crazy shit.

http://pitchfork.com/features/5-10-15-20/8474-5-10-15-20-uestlove/

beecheese, Monday, 7 January 2013 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

what the fuck could possess a human being to be hating on "devil's pie" and/or "untitled"

one bish two bish red bish blue bish (fadanuf4erybody), Monday, 7 January 2013 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

then there's this, which i remember reading years ago but was apparently written before voodoo came out:

http://web.archive.org/web/19991114212019/http://www.okayplayer.com/reviews.htm

at the time ?uest says that meth & red's verses had been taken off in favor of q-tip's original one, that lauryn was still going to be on "feel like makin' love" (also says that dilla was producing it, but it sounds like the regular band to me), and mentions a bunch of interludes that didn't make the cut.

have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Monday, 7 January 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

not hating on either one; calling them the weakest tracks on a top ten all time album and thematically a little off

What am I, in France? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 January 2013 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

I made people turn up early, and played the whole thing. (I was gonna skip Greatdayindamornin but that was when the takeaway arrived, so it soundtracked the unpacking and eating of Lebanese food.)

http://devonrecordclub.wordpress.com/2013/01/09/dangelo-voodoo-round-44-nicks-choice/

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 10 January 2013 09:17 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

questo sez

"If this record is not turned in by February, then something is extremely wrong. Because we worked to the bone in the entire month of January just to tighten up all the loose ends."

d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 January 2013 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

kept his dealers away?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 January 2013 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

Total dud.

Tuneless, meandering jams that I'm sure were a blast to witness in person. Tedious in all other instances.

I drank the Kool Aid with this album. But fuck that. Just sold my original vinyl copy (played maybe thrice) for $50 the other day (dude was in the record store and was like, "Name your price!" when he saw it — in retrospect, I should've aimed higher).

Love how Maxwell has released not one, but two, albums that are better in every aspect since Voodoo came out.

(yes, I went there)

Austin, Monday, 28 January 2013 02:24 (eleven years ago) link

smh

queef ka queef (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 28 January 2013 02:25 (eleven years ago) link

wow, Austin went there

d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 January 2013 02:28 (eleven years ago) link

kept his dealers away?

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, January 27, 2013 5:22 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

d'angelo's problem isn't drugs

d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 January 2013 02:29 (eleven years ago) link

smh

I know. I should've gone for at least 75.

Austin, Monday, 28 January 2013 02:29 (eleven years ago) link

well, not his only problem.

bummed i missed out on the voodoo vinyl reissue. ;_;

keef qua keef (Jordan), Monday, 28 January 2013 02:30 (eleven years ago) link

maybe not right now. but he has been in rehab twice for coke, booze, etc. xp

some dude, Monday, 28 January 2013 02:32 (eleven years ago) link

I thought his problems were drugs related to his problems with the perfectly cut image he'd created....?

xxpost

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 January 2013 02:32 (eleven years ago) link

i mean the image thing i'm sure fucked with his head but i'm sure it's not like a Walk Hard "oh i hate how people want to see my six pack! ::picks up bottle::" scenario

i go through periods of being very "fuck this dude" like Austin tbh

some dude, Monday, 28 January 2013 02:34 (eleven years ago) link

i go through periods of being very "fuck this dude" like Austin tbh

Well, to be democratic about this, it's not entirely his fault that I never have liked him.

But it is his fault that he can't write a song to save his life.

Austin, Monday, 28 January 2013 02:40 (eleven years ago) link

I thought his problems were drugs related to his problems with the perfectly cut image he'd created....?

xxpost

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:32 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

i think his problems now are all creative

d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 January 2013 02:43 (eleven years ago) link

weren't you the same guy who hated that Mystikal record? your crazy opinions are inspiring

(except i too think Maxwell, especially BLACKsummer'snight, is waaaaaaaaaay overlooked, so uh you got me there)

xp

berner herzog (fadanuf4erybody), Monday, 28 January 2013 02:46 (eleven years ago) link

i mean the image thing i'm sure fucked with his head but i'm sure it's not like a Walk Hard "oh i hate how people want to see my six pack! ::picks up bottle::" scenario

I'm just quoting the PR, which like most PR has to find a psychological origin for indulgences.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 January 2013 02:46 (eleven years ago) link


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