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I caught myself using "hella" yesterday.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:43 (eleven years ago) link

lol at Laurel being "very old"

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Thursday, 12 July 2012 04:52 (eleven years ago) link

I think I have blouses that are older than most of the women on ILX.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 12 July 2012 05:50 (eleven years ago) link

who among us does not say off the chain?????

mississippi joan hart (crüt), Thursday, 12 July 2012 07:57 (eleven years ago) link

i don't think i've ever heard anyone say that phrase unironically

Nhex, Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

To be safe, I never utter anything unironically

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 12 July 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

This week's neo-fascist bloopers summer special:

Plan B in Skrewdriver t-shirt blunder, oops that's embarrassing:
http://thequietus.com/articles/09423-plan-b-apology-for-skrewdriver-t-shirt-misunderstanding

Opera singer withdraws from Bayreuth festival due to having a swastika tattooed on his chest wtf:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/22/russian-singer-quits-bayreuth-festival

mod night at the oasis (NickB), Monday, 23 July 2012 10:06 (eleven years ago) link

What I haven't seen commented on is the fact that he still plainly has the Algis rune on his chest, hello:
http://www.adl.org/hate_symbols/neo_nazi_life_rune.asp

mod night at the oasis (NickB), Monday, 23 July 2012 10:13 (eleven years ago) link

I was gonna say!

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 23 July 2012 11:31 (eleven years ago) link

nazis stole all the best symbols : (

how's life, Monday, 23 July 2012 11:46 (eleven years ago) link

a white rapper actually wearing a white-power T-shirt in public is like a Paris song coming to life

camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 23 July 2012 12:57 (eleven years ago) link

The shirt's image is from a photograph in one of those SKINHEAD CULTURE straight-ups books (not Nick Knight's SKINHEAD but similar) - it's not a Skr3wdriver tee. Subject is standing in front of a wall with the band's name graffiti-scrawled upon it.

Still, an avoidable shitstorm because that's not immediately obvious and it appears nobody involved knew the reference, anyway: I probably would've asked the stylist to change shirts to have a few looks for the shoot... and then winnow out the offensive shirt when choosing the images for the feature. Dumb, dumb Shortlist fashion department. Dumb, dumb Plan B - when musicians dress for a shoot, it's important for them to remember that an exchange of views about wardrobe choices with everyone who sees an image in a magazine is impossible.

higgs' besom (suzy), Monday, 23 July 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

I kind of can't get over the fact that dude calls himself Plan B tbh

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 23 July 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

it's because he is taken orally after unprotected sex

contenderizer, Monday, 23 July 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link

iirc this book is about race war: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_B_(novel)

bamcquern, Monday, 23 July 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

odds of a skinhead being a chester himes fan probably pretty low tho

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 July 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

This just in: Plan B is not a skinhead, not wearing a white power t-shirt.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 23 July 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

xp no just a coincidence

bamcquern, Monday, 23 July 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

The Yevgeny Nikitin is a little more complex. I work in opera; one of the singers in the current Bayreuth production of Holländer is a good friend of mine (I have not discussed this incident with him -- they are in full-on "save the production" mode with another singer), and other friends of mine have worked with him. When a gay person of color who I know to be an intense anti-fascist tells me "Yevgeny is no Nazi", I believe it. The tattoos were a dumb-ass youthful decision that he does not want to remove -- he covered the Swastika and keeps the rune (which was also widely reported in the German press) because it has more contemporary non-Nazi meaning.

What's insane about this is that it's the Bild newspaper -- the Daily Mail of Germany -- that started this story, and that he left after intense pressure from the Wagner family and Foundation. I have heard from good insider sources that several family members remain, erm, true believers, and I know that other folks in the Wagner Foundation are big ol' Nazis. Saw a concertante performance of a Wagner opera in honor of a board member recently (outside of Germany, it must be said); in the audience was a young man wearing an outfit based on a stylized SS uniform, and he was not wearing it ironically and he was greeted warmly by the guest of honor. The Wagner scene in German-speaking Europe has some pretty fucking creepy elements that get most obvious in Switzerland.

Three Word Username, Monday, 23 July 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

That is really interesting; I figured there had to be a lot more to the story because I find it really hard to imagine that a dude covered in racist tattoos would be able to get a lot of contemporary opera work

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 23 July 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

(although I am not finding the more contemporary non-Nazi meaning for that rune very easily)

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 23 July 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, new age and pagan types use the rune. More than those types use the swastika, too.

One reason he gets gigs is that he's pretty good;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOrdhb6z9us
he also has excellent stage presence, which is (unfortunately) more important in the German-speaking opera world.

Three Word Username, Monday, 23 July 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

yeah he is good, I'll be over here silently hating on him

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 23 July 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

Opera nazis, who knew

(not meant ironically)

funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 00:48 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, new age and pagan types use the rune.

The quickest way to ruin your argument imo

camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 03:40 (eleven years ago) link

yeah he is good, I'll be over here silently hating on him

goes for Wagner too obv

mississippi joan hart (crüt), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 05:07 (eleven years ago) link

Just reporting, haven't met or worked with the guy. I generally trust my friend's judgement, though. Have met (in Europe) other ex-boneheads who didn't get rid of their tattoos.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 06:16 (eleven years ago) link

http://pigeonsandplanes.com/2012/07/interview-gunplay-speaks-on-drugs-swastikas-and-his-deal-with-def-jam.html/2

http://cdn.pigeonsandplanes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/gunplay2.jpg

The swastika tattoo is a big controversial topic amongst your fans as well as critics. Can you clear the air on that?

Yeah, it’s just my symbol of genocide to the bullshit. Mass murdering the bullshit. Too much bullshit out here. I came to Nazi that shit. I came to Hitler that motherfucker. Put all the fake motherfuckers in the gas chamber and gas your fuck ass. That’s what I’m here to do. So niggas better walk light around a nigga. I’ma show niggas. I can talk but I’ma show niggas. All that fake shit, I’ma call that shit out and I’ma stomp that shit out. I got a mission. Just playing the game for the meantime.

camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

that's some crazy ass shit

contenderizer, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

dumbass

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

aaron mcgruder character

Mordy, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

lol, otm

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link

I wonder what the tattoo artist who did that design for him was thinking during the process

probably "when is Ashton Kutcher going to jump out at me"

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

kinda can't help but lol at a black man with a swastika tattooed on him sorry

giallo shots (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link

I don't even get the joke!

camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:18 (eleven years ago) link

It was poorly formed.

how's life, Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:20 (eleven years ago) link

Mosquitos have west nile virus.
The nile is a river in africa.
Therefore, mosquitos are african.
African people immigrate to greece.
Therefore, when mosquitos bite the african immigrants, they are eating food from their homeland.

how's life, Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:22 (eleven years ago) link

You have to make a triple-jump of humour to understand that. And then it turns out to be shit and racist.

mod night at the oasis (NickB), Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:24 (eleven years ago) link

there's been a lot of west nile virus in greece this year apparently, and lots of immigration

skrill xx (cozen), Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:24 (eleven years ago) link

Who the fuck wants to immigrate to greece these days?

how's life, Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link

If how's life's explanation makes sense, it's not racist just profoundly stupid.

camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:28 (eleven years ago) link

Triple jump's a pretty weird game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6NKWhEl_V0

how's life, Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:32 (eleven years ago) link

whole thing reminds me of the richard riordan thing where profoundly stupid people trying to be funny just SAY THINGS. And they don't make a whole lot of sense but ruin their lives anyway

http://www.spike.com/video-clips/0m0ug5/riordans-stupid-dirty-girl

camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 26 July 2012 13:00 (eleven years ago) link

"So, I'm just gonna say some stuff now... ALL THE MAYANS WOULD HAVE DIED OF AIDS IN 2012 BECAUSE THEY ATE SO MANY PAPAYAS... OK, so anyway, here's why I'd be qualified for that job..."

camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 26 July 2012 13:01 (eleven years ago) link

Black man having a swastika tattoo marginally less absurd than a Russian with same, tbh.

Bananaman Begins, Thursday, 26 July 2012 13:18 (eleven years ago) link

Well, "Black Hitler" was a disappointing GIS though I'm not sure why I was expecting something better.

pplains, Thursday, 26 July 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

I came to hitler that motherfucker is my new catch phrase

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link


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