so boss that powderfinger won
― catbus otm (gbx), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
Highest points-per-voter among the Top 75 (intensity quotient, if you will):
1. "Expecting to Fly" (13.16)2. "On the Way Home" (12.78)3. "Tell Me Why" (12.52)4. "Ambulance Blues" (12.52)5. "On the Beach" (12.26)6. "Powderfinger" (11.68)7. "When You Dance I Can Really Love" (11.59)8. "Cinnamon Girl" (11.53)9. "Tonight's the Night" (11.41)10. "Helpless" (11.25)
Songs from my list I most wanted to place: "Country Girl" and "Bad Fog of Loneliness" (I knew "Ocean Girl" had no chance)High finish that puzzles me most: "Walk On"Song from Tonight's the Night I wish had placed: "Roll Another Number (For the Road)"Post-Rust song I was sure was going to place fairly high (and where I wasn't even close): "Over and Over"
Thanks to the action-film and horror-film polls, which got me interested in spending lots of time on the images, and also to the Paul Simon poll, where I liked the sometimes cryptic juxtapositions.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
After The Gold Rush getting the most points is pretty remarkable given that its highest song was #14
― straight up now tell me will I be a fucking lump forever? (some dude), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
who voted for Cripple Creek Ferry
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:25 (eleven years ago) link
(I voted for Oh Lonesome Me)
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link
Post-Rust song I was sure was going to place fairly high (and where I wasn't even close): "Over and Over"
This was actually in regular rotation on MTV in 1991. Granted, said rotation was around 3am, but it was 3am every day for about two weeks:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mzo51vF0OQ&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL1D1AE27FE928AA35(I have no idea why I was up at 3am every day for two weeks in 1991)
― Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
(ok, that was supposed to be the "Over and Over" video)
― Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
All 11 Gold Rush songs got votes, ranging from a low of 43 to a high of 313. I voted for "Cripple Creek Ferry," also four others. (Everybody Knows and On the Beach have four and three fewer songs than Gold Rush, and that makes a difference.)
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:31 (eleven years ago) link
Danger Bird >>> Cortez
Alfred otm here...Cortez is a great jam but I hate the lyrics so much. I did give Cortez 5 points though.
Thanks for an almighty poll, clemenza!
― recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:54 (eleven years ago) link
Sample and Hold 25Expecting to Fly 20Revolution blues 20Ambulance blues 20Journey through the past 10Only love can break your heart 10See the sky about to rain 10Mr. Soul 10Broken Arrow 10Hey hey, my my 10Transformer man 10Harvest Moon 10Winterlong 10Helpless 10Such a woman 10Ohio 10Bad fog of loneliness 10Natural beauty 10Danger Bird 10Down by the river 10Country girl 10War of man 5Star of Bethlehem 5Old man 5Cortez the Killer 5Mellow my mind 5Cowgirl in the sand 5Motion pictures 5Last trip to Tulsa 5Peaceful valley boulevard 5
― recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
1. Harvest Moon2. Don't Let It Bring You Down3. Cinnamon Girl4. On the Way Home5. Lotta Love6. You and Me7. When You Dance I Can Really Love8. It's My Time9. Only Love Can Break Your Heart10. Oh, Lonesome Me11. Ohio12. Old Man13. The Needle and the Damage Done14. Mr. Soul15. My My, Hey Hey (Out of the Blue)16. Hey Hey, My My (Into the Black)17. Expecting to Fly18. Tell Me Why19. Cowgirl in the Sand20. Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing21. Long May You Run22. Rockin' in the Free World23. Whatever Happened to Saturday Night24. I've Been Waiting for You25. Southern Man26. Come on Baby Let's Go Downtown27. Will to Love28. Hey Babe29. Like a Hurricane30. Down by the River
- Surprised "Clancy" and "Oh, Lonesome Me" didn't place.- Surprised "Will to Love" and "Come on Baby Let's Go Downtown" did.- Not surprised, but disappointed "You and Me" and "It's My Time" didn't place
― Lee626, Thursday, 12 July 2012 00:02 (eleven years ago) link
I don't mind "Cortez" as a jam, but the lyrics really kill it for me.
I LOVE Cortez as a jam but yeah the lyrics are dumb
― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 12 July 2012 00:21 (eleven years ago) link
songs from my ballot that didn't make it
9) The Losing End (When You're On) 14) If I Could Have Her Tonight 15) Down To The Wire 17) Burned 18) Human Highway 22) Oh, Lonesome Me 23) The Emperor of Wyoming 28) Till The Morning Comes 30) Round & Round (It Won't Be Long)
there were 4-5 songs that did make the top 75 that I would have voted for if i had not thrown my ballot together so haphazardly
― buzza, Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link
ok i'm gonna look like an idiot here maybe or maybe i'm regurgitating conventional wisdom but how do ppl read 'cortez'? do they read it as a straightforward song about cortez? not saying this is wrong, it very probably isn't, this is neil young, but the way i've read it the dumbness of the first 6 verses is intentional and maybe neccessary, that those first 6 verses are a daydream or digression and the song only moves into present tense and the actual protagonist is revealed in the 'and i know she's living there' verse, that the song is a variation on 'by the time i get to phoenix' sorta w/ the protagonist thinking of cortez conquering and destroying this paradise and how that mirrors how he destroyed his paradise (and it's not hard to believe, guy's a dumbass, cf. his take on the aztecs), w/ the final 'cortez, what a killer' the narrator hanging his head in shame. why do i keep fuckin up etc.
― balls, Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:25 (eleven years ago) link
it could be also that 'cortez is about regret' cuz so many of my fave neil young songs (including my top two) are basically about regret.
― balls, Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
it could be also that I THINK 'cortez is about regret' rather
― balls, Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
neil shrugs enough about it that there isn't any wrong way to read it
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:33 (eleven years ago) link
i always thought cortez was neil being maybe a lil too upfront about how much he romanticizes native america and the first nations? like pocahontas rides the line, and manages it, but cortez was what neil did instead of hanging up a dreamcatcher and getting a kokopelli tattoo, i dunno
i'd like to be wrong though!
― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:36 (eleven years ago) link
an innaresting reading
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
POWDERFINGER
― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:41 (eleven years ago) link
actually, now that i think about it, that reggae-ified coda on Live Rust might have been the wrong way to read it
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link
but yeah any take that involves yearning, regret, wistfulness, etc is plenty right
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:46 (eleven years ago) link
still wish i could find that quote from erstwhile ilxor stormy davis (grumpier than morbs, even, bless 'im) that said something like "powderfinger is the most important song ever recorded". totally had a moment where i read that, put on powderfinger, and then thought "damn."
― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
the reggae-fied coda on LR is probably a singer trying to keep boredom at bay afte 2000 performances
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:53 (eleven years ago) link
haha here's where i confess i've never actually listened to live rust (which is doubly weird cuz i LOVE neil young live albums - big year of the horse stan, etc) and you dudes tossing words like 'reggae' around in the context of neil young is not exactly doing anything to change that.
― balls, Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:59 (eleven years ago) link
the reggae part is akin to Neil burping midsong
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:01 (eleven years ago) link
A friend said this in an e-mail today in reference to "Cortez": "unlike that fabled Franco government, I am a Spaniard who feels this song tells my own story quite accurately."
Having said that, I think it's a dead-end trying to analyze the song too closely as words on a page. (Nothing wrong with that, and the stuff above is interesting.) I know it's more literal than mid-'60s Dylan stuff like "Desolation Row" or "Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues," but I do think it's Neil's version of that. He's got a song floating around in his head, and he's just attaching some words...against interpretation and all that.
― clemenza, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
Or maybe a bunch of words setting up the one line: "I still can't remember when or how I lost my way." Coming out of the '73-75 period, that line seems very straightforward.
― clemenza, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:04 (eleven years ago) link
balls, skip to 6:05 for a taste
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSj5yOK_mt4
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:07 (eleven years ago) link
or you can start at the beginning and let the majesty unfold
when I saw Bryan Ferry perform "A Song For Europe" in 2010 he mimicked a southern accent. What's weirder?
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:08 (eleven years ago) link
Haven't listened to Live Rust in ages...would have been happier without that reminder! (The reggae schtick, I mean.)
― clemenza, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:09 (eleven years ago) link
Mine that didn't place:
Pardon My HeartHangin' On A LimbStringmanCountry Girl: Whiskey Boot Hill/Down, Down, Down/Country Girl (I Think You're Pretty)Ride My LlamaThe BridgeAfter The Garden (I'm fond of this, and snuck it in at #30, but I suspect it might have been its only vote!)
― funk79, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:10 (eleven years ago) link
I screened the Rust... movie during the voting process, and as the version of CTK unfurled into the reggae coda, I thought, "Hey, at least he didn't try to shove a Crazy Horse reggae album down Geffen's throat."
I know Neil has said that the real Weld experience was the long-form video/laser disc. You could make a similar argument for Rust Never Sleeps (the movie) vs. Live Rust. All that kooky atmosphere (the giant props, "Road Eyes") adds just the right amount of wtf? to the proceedings.
― Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:10 (eleven years ago) link
ok that's not so bad, i don't think david byrne can go 30 seconds on the name of this band w/o some similar move going on.
― balls, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:12 (eleven years ago) link
^ that post is like chum for clem i think
― balls, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:13 (eleven years ago) link
actually it's surprising there isn't at least one more prominent example of ras neil out there
xpost and now my own unintentional avoidance of the name of this band is given weight
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:13 (eleven years ago) link
It was the only "After the Garden" vote, yes...Outdoor Miner: let me know if you want your ballot posted.
― clemenza, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:13 (eleven years ago) link
Another thing about CTK: in the old AMG review of Zuma, the writer mentioned that the song was the lone holdover from an abandoned concept album of historical-oriented songs. That is the only place I've heard of this concept lp. Total bullshit, or is there something to it?
― Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:14 (eleven years ago) link
after This Note's For You the VV's critic wondered whether "Neil Sings Nelson Riddle!" was next. Why not "Neil Sings Lee 'Scratch' Perry"?
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:15 (eleven years ago) link
Jah Rastafari Believe In You
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:16 (eleven years ago) link
is le noise the closest thing to a neil young dub album we have? also: neil young + crazy horse in everybody's dubsteppin -> yes, sign me up
― balls, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:22 (eleven years ago) link
the real Weld experience
this was intentional right? if so: ~knucks~
knucks anyway
― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link
can-knucks joke goes here
neil young + crazy horse in everybody's dubsteppin -> yes, sign me up
"kinda fonda wubwubwub"
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:27 (eleven years ago) link
I know Neil has said that the real Weld experience was the long-form video/laser disc.
I'd hate to think the real Weld experience is close-ups of audience members singing along.
― Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 12 July 2012 03:17 (eleven years ago) link
1. Powderfinger2. The Needle And The Damage Done3. Cortez the Killer4. Sugar Mountain5. Down By The River6. After the Gold Rush7. Alabama8. Pocahontas9. Revolution Blues10. South-ern Pac-i-fic11. Comes A Time12. The Loner13. Don't Be Denied14. Don't Let it Bring You Down15. Tonight's the Night16. Will To Love17. Cowgirl In The Sand18. Rap-id Tran-sit19. Harvest Moon20. Coupe De Ville21. Safeway Cart22. The Bridge23. Love To Burn24. For The Turnstiles25. Kinda Fonda Wanda26. My My, Hey Hey (Out Of The Blue)27. Homegrown28. Captain Kennedy29. Fuckin' Up30. Silver And Gold
Upper 10 = 15Middle 10 = 10Bottom 10 = 5
― exclusive to this pledge group - pleasure (weatheringdaleson), Thursday, 12 July 2012 03:19 (eleven years ago) link
Placed 20 of 30. Kind of surprised "Four Strong Winds" didn't make it.
― Neil Jung (WmC), Thursday, 12 July 2012 03:22 (eleven years ago) link
27 of 30 placed. Would have loved to see Flying on the Ground is Wrong make the list. That one's come on strong for me lately. Tyler had the Kendra Smith / Rainy Day cover posted earlier this year ... so good.
For 15 points each: Tell Me Why Down by the River Powderfinger Pocahontas Helpless Expecting to Fly On the Way Home Ohio The Old Laughing Lady Sedan DeliveryFor 10 points each: Out on the Weekend Long May You Run Comes a Time Winterlong Flying on the Ground is Wrong Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing Like a Hurricane Rockin' in the the Free World Cowgirl in the Sand Hey Hey, My MyFor 5 points each: See the Sky About to Rain Birds Till the Morning Comes Thrasher Dreamin' Man Cortez the Killer Only Love Can Break Your Heart Albuquerque Walk On After the Gold Rush
― that's not my post, Thursday, 12 July 2012 04:03 (eleven years ago) link
1.) Don't Be Denied - 242.) Tell Me Why - 203.) Keep On Rockin in the Free World - 154.) For the Turnstiles - 145.) Powderfinger - 14
12 points:Down by the RiverThrasherWinterlongAlbuquerque
10 points:Pardon My HeartI Believe in YouSedan DeliveryOn the BeachBirdsSleeps with Angels
7 points:Revolution BluesCinnamon GirlWorld on a StringHangin on a LimbSlip AwayTime Fades AwayLike a HurricanePocahontasThe Old HomesteadBarstool Blues
5 points:
Walk OnLADon't Let it Bring You DownFuckin UpHeart of GoldAmbulance BluesDrivebyCrime in the CityHitchhikerYonder Stands the Sinner
2 points:
Lookout JoeWelfare MothersSafeway CartComes a TimeHarvest
0 points ;_;
Coupe de VilleWords Between the Lines of AgeChange Your Mind
― t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 12 July 2012 04:34 (eleven years ago) link