quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

*passes a hanger*

*winks*

*mouths "get yer coat mate"*

PLEASE FERTILIZE ME O MAN, FOR I HAVE A HAUNTED PUSSY

Mordy, if "drug dealer" carries a stigma, why not her derogatory nicknames for the friends? Seems like an arbitrary distinction.

yes, her derogatory nicknames for her friends also carry a stigma is that your point?

... are we just going to ignore Tracer's post, then

I'd change my display name but apparently I'm already "the dude who makes reference to sex organs in his display name" and I don't really feel like conforming to expectations right now

ghost in birth canal

I see Laurel and mookieproof have covered the "38 year old women like to be sexually harassed" angle, so that saves me some time.

Maybe it's "sexual harassment" meaning it's just flirting but she's married and likes it so it's "harassment."

Like when her "slut" friend introduced her to her "drug dealer" who gave her free drugs and "sexually harassed" her and she enjoyed it.

ugh

I am already feeling pretty low but that article made me feel so much worse. Awful people all around.

the fetishization of the behavior is so much more obnoxious than the behavior itself

only slightly w/r/t this article, but you meet sort of aging party people every now and again and they are always the fucking worst.

don't let jjj catch you saying that

they're pretty annoying when they're young too

self-righteous coke-snorting cheaters are obnoxious no matter how old they are

the fetishization of the behavior is so much more obnoxious than the behavior itself

― Mordy, Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:11 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otmfm

I was about to quote Mordy for that, too.

The article gave me some inner sense of familiarity, then I realized with "self righteous coke snorting cheaters" that these people reminded me of my parents. Negative affect with growing up with that is you become friends/date self-righteous coke snorting cheaters, who are truly the most obnoxious people in the world.

i don't buy Mordy's post at all

being a vaguely-irresponsible partying not-that-hard person with some alcoholic tendencies is pretty human, thinking that it's in some way decadent or cool is pretty bad

don't let jjj catch you saying that

― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:12 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

BOOM

haha

guys i said sort of aging

Romanticizing this lifestyle might lead to some poor sap aspiring to it. I mean, I've met people who have read Bukowski and aspire to that lifestyle which... jesus, did you actually read it?

guys i said sort of aging

― du. duplass. duplass mich. (goole), Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:39 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

DOUBLE TAP

tbf I haven't read bukowski but that's because I was vomiting down my shirt

you know what soaks up vomit really well? a bukowski book. keep it in your shirt pocket just in case.

so, the romanticizing/fetishizing is a "might be" bad effect.

acktually doing that crap when other people are more dependent on you (professionally, your family) is a "probably will be" bad effect

not that i want to get all moralistic about drugs and sex tho. do your thing i guess.

which one, drugs or sex

gbx whatever "your thing" is i'm ok w/ it

i read that awl thing and i think dude do you have ANY idea how much people used to drink and drug in the good old days? parents. older parents. 40th birthday party at a karaoke bar woohoo you go girl! it used to be socially acceptable to be a complete drunk. everyone was drunk! all the time!

sounds so tiring

they had karaoke bars in the good old days?

this still holds in some segments of society ime

like I rode the train out west and the drunkest ppl in the area was a group of five 50yos getting lit. up. on whatever terrible booze they sold in the caf

ty goole

if she said all her galpals did meth and had pitbull fights in the basements of their co-ops i would raise an eyebrow.

plus people did serious drugs in the 50's and 60's. real deal speed and downers handed out like candy by doctors. housewives were flying. and drunk. and they all had ten kids.

I can't make an accurate comparison, but here's some pulled-out-of-my-ass messageboard theory: society during the 50s may not have been as complex as today (milestones neatly marked off, society tightly stratified, roles clearly defined) that even if you had parents fucked out of their minds 24/7, that you could probably just fall neatly into society even if you weren't all that OK inside.

Whereas these days things are so complex and shakey (US has highest rate of anxiety in the civilized world, according to my vague memory of half-reading an article) that the stakes are higher today for good parenting than yesterday.

scott OTM about intake tho

you could buy meth - PURE METH - at a fucking drugstore!

discreet meth

time was, you could kick a ball of pure meth down the street

i wondered if ilx had read that article, now i guess i know...

We read kind of slow.

too busy drunkenly hitting on 38-yo married Sluts

i would totally do cocaine if someone i knew offered me some. nobody ever offers me any! i need to start hanging out with different moms. i haven't done any since the 90's when my stripper girlfriend brought some home (she got some as a tip at work). i stayed up all night watching t.v. i was wild.

i'm pretty sure 75% of the parents i know smoke pot. sometimes i think just about everybody smokes pot. but that might be a regional thing.

okay maybe not 75%. i don't really know. western mass pretty big on pot though.