Jesus that was depressing.
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
I have a friend with kids who says Wine o'clock all the f'ing time on fb. :/
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
it's depressing to read about depressed people
― Mordy, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
yes
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
My wife started going to *mommy meetups* in our neighborhood and a lot of the women are heavy drinkers and sound like they're probably the slightly younger versions of the women in Sohn's novel.
― click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
How do you think they smoked weed out of the cardboard part of a hanger? I can't figure it out.
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link
sounds like a really long one-hitter
― dmr, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
I just assume they packed the tube full of weed and smoked it like a cigar
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
you put the burning matter at one end and inhale out the other iirc
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
Why are these people having kids?
― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, but cardboard
― real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
because they didn't pull out, that was covered
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
or they were uncovered, I guess
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
I mean don't these people basically have a lot of paid help with their kids? It's news to me that parenting becomes easy once your kids start kindergarten, and obviously someone is watching the kids while mom and dad are out at all these coke parties. I guess if you can outsource responsibility you don't really have to be responsible, you can just enjoy drug-laced ennui.
― click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
I figured that with the exception of the anecdotal party where the husbands were off to the side while the wives were going crazy, the described nights were all ones where the other spouse was at home with the kid.
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
oh right, yeah she did say that
― click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
Tbh I still like doing all those irresponsible things, and if I'd gotten married at 30 and had my 2.5 kids already I'm not sure I wouldn't resemble those people?
― how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
i kinda of feel like there's a tone in this piece that is simultaneously asking readers to make ethical judgements on these ppl (the drinking, cheating, drug use, mindlessness) and is defiantly justifying those behaviors. i understand that it's titillating to read about presumably responsible adults (parents, no less) doing irresponsible things, but it's also hugely sensationalistic and i doubt any of these behaviors indicate some broader/extensive trend. maybe more importantly, this should be the crux of the piece:
Why do moms in my generation regress, whether by drugging, cheating, or going out too late and too often? Because everything our children thrive on—stability, routine, lack of flux, love, well-paired parents—feels like death to those entrusted with their care.
But it is totally asinine! Why do things like stability, routine, lack of flux, love etc feel like death to parents?
Also, the stigmatization of casual marijuana use in that article is pretty reactionary. The guy who gifted the author a generous amount of weed isn't her friend but her drug dealer? OKAY.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
What, casually nicknaming your friends Hooker, Slut, and Drug Addict and cheating on your dude in the back of a minivan?
xp
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
You can do all those "omg irresponsible" behaviors without pretending you're a total degenerate for the purposes of creative fiction, imo.
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
I have a bunch of friends who would do this in a heartbeat but they're all guys
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
mommy whites
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
Judd Apatow would be proud /morbs
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
I used to get all the jokes along that line, or even the casual prison rape jokes, but then I realized I knew people who had shitty families or were actual former drug addicts or work in sex work and I was just o_O at throwing that shit out for the laughs
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
btw this says a lot about me but the only thing that actually made me angry about this was calling the dude who sells you weed a drug dealer, otherwise it seems like a certain kind of boilerplate workshop fiction I've heard a million times
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
The difference between twenty-five and thirty-eight is that, at thirty-eight, when a strange man says he wants to have sex with you, you feel grateful.
o rly?
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
in 2012 is weed drugs
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
I don't see how anyone can read the "drug dealer" section and think that she for real considers that dude to be her drug dealer, as opposed to sensationalizing their relationship to elicit a reaction (which, btw, fails spectacularly)
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
Actually I am a simmering kettle of thoughts about women calling their female friends (previously?) derogatory names. I've been seeing it in a few difft capacities lately, some more defensible than others, and THAT is not something I do but the ways it's done are percolating with me right now.
― mookieproof
YEAH my outburst of yesterday notwithstanding, this is some seriously toxic bullshit.
― how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
i think it's telling that she watched Girls and decided that it was time for a similarly self-hating narrative about ppl her age.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
showing how vapid + irresponsible you and your friends are = brave + honest in 2012
I am sorry I clicked on that link thanks a lot guys
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
completely loling at you guys getting offender by "drug dealer". if she referred to a barista that way, would you be offended? or are you angry because of the borderline acceptable/illegal way weed is treated so you have to stand up for your socially-acceptable drug of choice?
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
wtf are you talking about mh?
― Mordy, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
lyfe
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
*passes a hanger*
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
*winks*
*mouths "get yer coat mate"*
PLEASE FERTILIZE ME O MAN, FOR I HAVE A HAUNTED PUSSY
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
Mordy, if "drug dealer" carries a stigma, why not her derogatory nicknames for the friends? Seems like an arbitrary distinction.
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
yes, her derogatory nicknames for her friends also carry a stigma is that your point?
― Mordy, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
... are we just going to ignore Tracer's post, then
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
I'd change my display name but apparently I'm already "the dude who makes reference to sex organs in his display name" and I don't really feel like conforming to expectations right now
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
ghost in birth canal
― Mordy, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
I see Laurel and mookieproof have covered the "38 year old women like to be sexually harassed" angle, so that saves me some time.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe it's "sexual harassment" meaning it's just flirting but she's married and likes it so it's "harassment."
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
Like when her "slut" friend introduced her to her "drug dealer" who gave her free drugs and "sexually harassed" her and she enjoyed it.
ugh
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
I am already feeling pretty low but that article made me feel so much worse. Awful people all around.
― I found him in a Bon Ton ad (Nicole), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
the fetishization of the behavior is so much more obnoxious than the behavior itself
― Mordy, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link