Alright I'm finally gonna listen to it. On less than top-notch headphones.
― ledge, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
xpost -- It's like they wrote the thoughts in your head (including hating "Starfuckers")
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
This album is mostly awesome, so much so that it barely needs anyone to come to its defense.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
Huh, that piece missed noted Reznor's descent into drugs. When next we saw our hero, he was clean, sober and Hulk-huge.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
It's like they wrote the thoughts in your head (including hating "Starfuckers")
haha basically
"this works best as a contiguous piece" - check"by the time this was released, it was out of fashion" - check"'Starfuckers Inc' is super dumb" - check
xp: he was also back to distilling his angst into digestible 4 minute nuggets as opposed to thematically-linked double albums, which I think plays a lot into NIN's modern rock resurgence
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
My 39-minute edit, contiguous with SPIN magazine thread:
Just Like You ImaginedThe Day The World Went AwayThe WretchedWe're In This TogetherEven DeeperPleaseThe Big Come DownLa Mer
― HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Thursday, 17 October 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link
I made a 10 track edit I'm quite pleased with a while ago (cheating slightly with track 2):
La MerThe Day the World Went Away (Still)We're in this TogetherThe FragileJust Like You ImaginedEven DeeperInto the VoidI'm Looking Forward to Joining YouThe Big Come DownThe Great Below
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:47 (ten years ago) link
you can't have La Mer AND Into The Void
― HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:48 (ten years ago) link
pfft, maybe you can
― HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link
There's a lot of room between them!
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:50 (ten years ago) link
I remember Stylus doing a single-disc edit but really 10 tracks or fewer if you're taking it seriously
― HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link
Obviously I like your one because you've chosen most of the tracks I've chosen
― HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link
Thanks, yours is cool too - though I'm not that big on Please.
The main trouble with listening to an edit is some of the opening segues sound really jarring in isolation.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link
Please is in only because I needed to flesh out the relative perfection of the other 7 tracks and because of the chord-change into the chorus
― HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Thursday, 17 October 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link
Definitely some of his prettiest moments on this album; the Frail and the coda of We're in This Together are just lush.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 17 October 2013 23:02 (ten years ago) link
he did "the big come down" at the show i saw the other night, was not expecting my favorite fragile deep cut in a nin setlist in 2013
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 October 2013 23:50 (ten years ago) link
wow chap's 10 track reduction is probably perfect
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 October 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link
Cheers!
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 17 October 2013 23:53 (ten years ago) link
to make it twelve tracks i'd probably drop in "the mark has been made" and "underneath it all"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 October 2013 23:56 (ten years ago) link
Yeah good choices. I'm a little sad to lose The Frail/The Wretched as well.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 18 October 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link
there's no way I could cut The frail/The wretched
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 October 2013 03:52 (ten years ago) link
lj how would you assess the lyrics of this album
― Maggishos soyfriend. Wins. (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 18 October 2013 23:46 (ten years ago) link
balladic
― HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Friday, 18 October 2013 23:48 (ten years ago) link
more in terms of value judgments than structure
― Maggishos soyfriend. Wins. (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 18 October 2013 23:49 (ten years ago) link
there are some beautiful moments on this album in terms of SONICSi am going to get high drink some burgundy and play it loud one of these days
― Maggishos soyfriend. Wins. (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 18 October 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link
the big come down = don't give this track that title
― Maggishos soyfriend. Wins. (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 18 October 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link
the lyrics on this album work surprisingly well for the puerile sloganeering that they are
― HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Saturday, 19 October 2013 00:07 (ten years ago) link
directness of lyric to match directness of the music perhaps although the latter has more subtlety
see with the downward spiral i would use that same argument but that album had a reassuring kind of acrid, devitalized sort of feel that kept it in the lineage of various industrial predecessors but the fragile is much more refined and 'full' sort of sound probably courtesy of whatever state of the art late 90s digital production
― Maggishos soyfriend. Wins. (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 19 October 2013 00:16 (ten years ago) link
i revisited this album for the first time in ages recently. and even now, i'm no closer to remembering anything but "We're In This Together" in any particular detail.
― deez so unusual (some dude), Saturday, 19 October 2013 00:19 (ten years ago) link
Even Deeper has that direct chorus, but it also has some jazzy touches unthinkable in The Downward Spiral. I guess the lyrics, while still direct, are less confrontational, more reflective this time out.
― HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Saturday, 19 October 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link
Apart from that shitty Starfuckers song
there's no way I could cut The frail/The wretched― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 October 2013 03:52 (Yesterday) Permalink
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 October 2013 03:52 (Yesterday) Permalink
if it had been released on either a pre-/post- Fragile EP with maybe some of these castoffs [excluding starfuckers], i don't see why not.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 19 October 2013 00:25 (ten years ago) link
lawl i was trying to get you to riff on starfuckers inc
still has some nice chunky rock sounds
― Maggishos soyfriend. Wins. (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 19 October 2013 00:28 (ten years ago) link
I like the 'You're So Vain' middle eight in Starfuckers.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 19 October 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link
the single version of starfuckers ends with a live Kiss sample which totally makes the song IMO
― goth drama is universal (latebloomer), Saturday, 19 October 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
or rather the version included on the "day the world went away" single
― goth drama is universal (latebloomer), Saturday, 19 October 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link
This... might be my favorite NIN album? At least (Left) is a strong contender; we'll see how I feel once I get to (Right)
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link
"We're In This Together" is almost definitely my favorite NIN single at this point.
I like this album a hell of a lot and whenever I've listened to it always felt that there's a whole bunch of underrated work on here. Pretty Hate Machine is pretty much my go-to Nine Inch Nails album at this point, and I still enjoy the hell out of The Downward Spiral even though I've listened to it so much that I don't think there's anything left to discover about it (that, and it seems to be one of those records that are best listened to when you're of a certain age) but the highlights on The Fragile are easily as good as anything Trent ever did.
― Turrican, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link
weirdly, Pilgrimage is the track i enjoy hearing the most of this these days.
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link
There are 3-4 songs I really like but honestly if I'm gonna listen to NIN now it's gonna be either The Slip or Hesitation Marks.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link
our Hesitation Marks, I hope
― twunty fifteen (imago), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link
well full disclosure, the album I actually LISTEN to the most is Year Zero Remixed
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link
I haven't really listened to Hesitation Marks since it first came out.
― Turrican, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link
this is really my favorite nin album. a 9-track edit of hesitation marks would also be a contender
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link
i was v disappointed by every successive nin album bc i really just want him to build on his instrumental work on this record. ghosts was v inadequate as that goes
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link
I should also relisten to With Teeth sometime
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:35 (eight years ago) link
'Right Where It Belongs' probably one of my favourite Nine Inch Nails tracks, when all's said and done.
― Turrican, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link
last two tracks on with teeth are incredible
rest of it ehh
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link
eat yr spinach
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 March 2024 19:34 (one week ago) link
I will happily eat spinach but I will not eat diarrhea
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Saturday, 16 March 2024 21:59 (one week ago) link
lol
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 March 2024 22:00 (one week ago) link
new board description
in case anyone is new here, yes, this is the guy you know from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles soundtrack.("putting the NIN in Ninja Turtles")https://www.stereogum.com/2225186/trent-reznor-and-atticus-ross-composing-terrifying-score-for-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-movie/news/
― StanM, Sunday, 17 March 2024 01:54 (one week ago) link
suggest ban
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 17 March 2024 01:59 (one week ago) link
the score for that movie slaps, though
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 17 March 2024 19:25 (one week ago) link
I enjoy the moody bits too, and never bother with making my own edits of albums anyway, but the thing that always strikes me about The Fragile when I listen to it is how you could construct a tight album from its pop moments that sounds more like Pretty Hate Machine 2 than anything else Trent ever actually did.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 03:50 (one week ago) link
Think I noted on a different thread that Leopold Ross, who used to collaborate more with his brother, did the score to that Godzilla TV show (among other things), and it sounded so much like Atticus and Trent that 1) it verged on parody and 2) it kind of made me wonder what Trent brought to his scores with Atticus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KI6S_Eq7pU
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 12:44 (one week ago) link
huh, I somehow had no idea that was Atticus's brother. I guess my deep NIN fandom dropped off at some point in the last, uh, 25 years
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:47 (one week ago) link
i'll probably try to get a poll up and running in the next week or two
― ufo, Thursday, 21 March 2024 03:39 (one week ago) link
:D
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 March 2024 05:19 (one week ago) link