i remember really liking sticky, genius cru, k2, united grooves, wookie doing his exemen thing, and ... remarc?
― the late great, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:57 (eleven years ago) link
most of that set is unknown to me though, thanks for the recommendation
so what would be a set of properly "bubblin" ukg?
i hope not the artful dodger "lessons" from the underground
― the late great, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:58 (eleven years ago) link
If I had to select a single comp that I felt summed up ukg in this regard it would be this one:
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Pure-Silk-The-Third-Dimension/release/463634
Really captures the moment of 2-step's transition from underground into overground (but not having quite made it over the border yet - which is how I'd distinguish it from subsequent comps that I like just as much).
With the Dionne Rakeem remix that opens disc 2 being microcosmically indicative.
― Tim F, Friday, 6 July 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
I really enjoy the MCing on the third disc of that, Tim. Listening to it now, oddly.
― matt damon & the jb's (the anephric project), Friday, 6 July 2012 02:32 (eleven years ago) link
Yoo!! Just to let you guys know, I will be on 1Xtra at the earlier time of 10pm until 1am this week covering for DJ Cameo while he's away.
I hope you can all lock in!
― DJ Q, Friday, 6 July 2012 11:18 (eleven years ago) link
gloomcore? are elijah & skilliam gloomcore or do you mean more like james blake?
― the late great, Thursday, July 5, 2012 10:23 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Was gonna say the other day, the arrangement on the "Living Like I Do" remix has a real doomy but pop 1990 vibe for me - "Killer" / Warp / Bassic.
― Tim F, Saturday, 7 July 2012 09:37 (eleven years ago) link
defo
― r|t|c, Saturday, 7 July 2012 12:06 (eleven years ago) link
e&s can be harsh but very rarely austere like silva
viz the way they leaven grime grr with swindle-y video game jazz noodle (often back to back immediately) to create the cartoonish looney tunes vibe
― r|t|c, Saturday, 7 July 2012 12:11 (eleven years ago) link
(which i hasten to add is a perhaps underappreciated quality they articulate from grime itself rather than strictly being something of their own invention)
― r|t|c, Saturday, 7 July 2012 12:13 (eleven years ago) link
this nascent quality in grime always strikes me as a persistently recurring 4 Hero recessive gene...
― Tim F, Saturday, 7 July 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
E1D - It's A Lot! The UKG Sessions, Vol 5
01. Lenny Fontana Ft. Beverly T - Spirit Of The Sun (Mike Delinquent Project Remix) (E1D Special) 02. SKT Ft. Shanay Holmes - Sky High (Bee Q & Unique Remix) 03. Keith & Supabeatz Ft. An-Na - The Most Beautiful (Todd Edwards Remix) 04. Meleka - Love You Baby (TS7 Remix) 05. Genius Cru - Boom Selection (DJ Fabian Remix) 06. Jammer Ft. Viper, JME, B-Live, Scratchy, Layz, Sox & Flowdan - Big Man (DJ Q 'Tropical' Mix) 07. Lisa Maffia Ft. Tyler Daley & Romeo - Don't Stop The Music (Oxide Dark House Mix) 08. Scott Garcia Ft. MC DT - It's A London Thing 2012 (Scott Garcia's 20:20 Mix) 09. Stooshe - Black Heart (DEVolution Club Mix) 10. Kcat - Broken (Mike Delinquent 'Colosseum' Mix) 11. Todd Edwards - Love Inside (Sunshine Mix) 12. Wideboys - Addicted To The Bass (DJ Q Remix) 13. Rihanna - Where Have You Been (Bee Q & Unique Remix) 14. Afrojack & Shermanology - Can't Stop Me (TS7 Remix) 15. Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe (Classified Dub Mix) 16. Little Mix - Wings (Sunship Extended Mix) 17. Usher - Scream (Exemen Remix) 18. Mike Delinquent Project Ft. Lady Leshurr - Step In The Dance 19. Cleo Sol - Never The Right Time (Who Do You Love) (DEVolution Remix) 20. DJ Antoine vs Timaati Ft. Kalenna & Lethal Bizzle - Welcome To St. Tropez (TS7 Remix) 21. Enigma Dubz Ft. Katie McLeod - Dancefloor (Garage Instrumental Mix) 22. Orange Hill Productions Ft. Vybz Kartel & Sneakbo - Pon Time (DJ Q Remix) 23. Tanya Lacey - Greatness (Exemen Remix) 24. Infinity Ink - Infinity (Todd Edwards Remix) 25. Alyssa Reid Ft. Snoop Dogg - The Game (Sunship Remix) 26. Whojax - London City (Mike Delinquent Project Remix)
Split-track version is available here - https://www.yousendit.com/download/QlVoanZnQ3RPSHgzZU1UQw
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
This looks like all my favourite tunes in one convenient package.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
i know right?
you ever get round that fabian 'ride' btw
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
Yes! It's excellent. The decision to redo the "No Diggity" vocals seems wrongheaded right up to the amazing overlapping-vocoders-of-ecstasy chorus.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't really been following this thread at all but that mix is fantastic.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link
if we're going to reminisce on ca-2000 2-step comps, this is the one the i basically wore the grooves out of:
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Matt-Jam-Lamont-Presents-The-Jam-Experience/release/173880
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 2 August 2012 09:33 (eleven years ago) link
and what do you know, it's great
― Tim F, Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
New one from Royal T & Roska
http://soundcloud.com/roskaroskaroska/royal-t-ft-roska-work-your
Sounds pretty wicked. Tough garage vibes with added hoovers.
― jimitheexploder, Friday, 3 August 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
Oh that's amazing.
― matt damon & the jb's (the anephric project), Saturday, 4 August 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link
Indeed!
― Tim F, Saturday, 4 August 2012 01:17 (eleven years ago) link
wow
― the late great, Saturday, 4 August 2012 02:06 (eleven years ago) link
who is mike delinquent? does ukg recycle more tunes than chicago or fewer?
― the late great, Saturday, 4 August 2012 02:07 (eleven years ago) link
also i thought roska's tag line was "roska roska roska roska" not "roska roska roska" as in his soundcloud link?
― the late great, Saturday, 4 August 2012 02:13 (eleven years ago) link
so, gott ist tot. what to do. one one hand, while away the evenings arguing about orbital with southall, on the other...
on the assumption that my subsconscious whims are and always have been an underground river of otm:
let's lay all the notes out. where was q going before his untimely death? the house in house & garage, full circle ouroboros. maturation of bass? the medlar remix of disclosure. disclosure themselves. mk mix of storm queen. jamie jones vs azari big at the tail end of funky. bashmore topping the urban and scene charts with 'au seve'. garage scene raving to annie mac. something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlvRKqbET2o
something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmQSCpJSIaY
DEFINITELY something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRXg6F4V7z0
huxley. hot creations. nick hannam. hot creations and nick hannam. the jackin lot - cheap n cheerful boshers AND proper house-trained operators fluent in todays clubbing, not the late, crippled baby steps house deejaying that permeated and set off london funky. hannah wants, maya jane coles , what the diff? the garage scene has never been closer to house than it has been now. is it one sided? is it mutual? if they didnt meet halfway where did they meet? murky, got a bass to it. real actual bass. 'hialeah house party' is grimy as hell. vox samples - wiseguys or brandy or fonda rae or gotye or allure it doesnt matter don't you see
― r|t|c, Thursday, 30 August 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link
never been closer *since inception, obv
― r|t|c, Thursday, 30 August 2012 11:44 (eleven years ago) link
Waiting until I go to bed and dream tonight in order properly to decode the above but in the meantime I can say with certainty that "Jagged Edge", "Must Be You" and "Bassline Soldiers" are all straight fire beautiful tunes. PROPER BUBBLERS.
And get at stuff I was talking about above, the idea of bubbliness as something that can't be reduced to an objective sub-style - i mean these are all "just" house tunes yet still so fidgety and effervescent (and yet ominous). Really difficult to pin down exactly how that tightrope is trod, and what are the poles it's stretched between.
Though here's something: all this stuff can sound, if you squint, a bit like... Nu Groove?
― Tim F, Thursday, 30 August 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link
no doubt. konders, joey negro, and in partic kenny dope was another plate i had spinning at the back of my mind, the hip hop house but not hiphouse approach behind hot creations et al. made this little pile of sampley ones but then you can stretch it out into the classic breaks and boogie samples
Wildkats - Perpetrating (Original Mix)Adam Port - Someone To Love (Original Mix)Bubba - Dance With Me (Original Mix)Claptone - Cream (Original Mix)NTFO & Rhadow - Don't Stop (Original Mix)Robosonic - Worst LoveJay Lumen - As One (Original Mix)
― r|t|c, Thursday, 30 August 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I was listening to Konders tonight which is what made me think it.
― Tim F, Thursday, 30 August 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link
and like, plug those into the jackin refixes of 'cream', busta, wiseguys, fatboy slim, missy...
― r|t|c, Thursday, 30 August 2012 12:41 (eleven years ago) link
vox samples - wiseguys or brandy or fonda rae or gotye or allure it doesnt matter don't you see (emphasis mine)
I think this is a really important point.
Like in the jackin' house thread Lex was complaining about "You Want Me" using a Shola Ama tune as if it was part of the same modish R&B vocal sample trend as Blawan or whatevs, and it's like, no, they really don't care where it comes from, that's the difference.
― Tim F, Thursday, 30 August 2012 12:44 (eleven years ago) link
how about further. bashmore into jessie ware. the way ware never convinces but is affecting on the basis of not convincing. is she a replicant? 88-96 simulation. boogie nu-groove neo-noir repertory music for offworld colonies
i.
yeah i was thinking about that with ware90s teen tastemakers but also but 90s proto-thirtysomethings recognising a familiar port in a baffling storm (ware big on 6music), plus pious mirage of integrity for the adele crowd, plus the endless pointless gleaming simulacra of uk bass music's koolhaasian junkspacesorted guvnor- r|t|c, Saturday, 9 June 2012 14:33 (2 months ago) Bookmark
90s teen tastemakers but also but 90s proto-thirtysomethings recognising a familiar port in a baffling storm (ware big on 6music), plus pious mirage of integrity for the adele crowd, plus the endless pointless gleaming simulacra of uk bass music's koolhaasian junkspace
sorted guvnor
- r|t|c, Saturday, 9 June 2012 14:33 (2 months ago) Bookmark
ii.
Tyrell: If we gift them the past we create a cushion or pillow for their emotions and consequently we can control them better.Deckard: Memories. You're talking about memories.
Deckard: Memories. You're talking about memories.
― r|t|c, Thursday, 30 August 2012 12:50 (eleven years ago) link
LOL
Keep going
― Tim F, Thursday, 30 August 2012 12:51 (eleven years ago) link
90s crit for 90s retro!
― r|t|c, Thursday, 30 August 2012 12:51 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9eWTi_kVxo
anthem?
― r|t|c, Thursday, 30 August 2012 12:53 (eleven years ago) link
allow me to be the first to notice how mutabaruka (on konders 'the poem') sounds exactly like wiley pretending to be his mum
― r|t|c, Thursday, 30 August 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
and subsequently to extract great cosmic meaning from that obv
― r|t|c, Thursday, 30 August 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link
idgi
― the late great, Thursday, 30 August 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link
this stuff sounds more like sydenham / ferrer than any of the stuff you guys are mentioning
we went through this shit a couple years ago, no?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lfa2yAgtXY
― the late great, Thursday, 30 August 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
if there's ever a dance meme that makes me want to vomit its BACK TO BASICS
― the late great, Thursday, 30 August 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
we gonna have another 50 posts of you not knowing what planet you're on doggie?
― r|t|c, Thursday, 30 August 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link
stfu and actually listen to whats being discussed for a change
― r|t|c, Thursday, 30 August 2012 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
i listened to monty luke but i really have better things to be doing than being LOCKED ON to BBC1
― the late great, Thursday, 30 August 2012 23:57 (eleven years ago) link
also stuf and actually discuss what's being discussed
like you're never going to be mark s jr dance edition if you don't have the patience for anything other than cryptic references for "the bubbling crew"
― the late great, Thursday, 30 August 2012 23:59 (eleven years ago) link
but hey if this is NO GURLS ALLOWED DANCE THREAD i'll just *flounce off*
i'm sorry if i'm being rude but if there's a worse look than my "idgi" it's your "fuck off then if you don't get it"
― the late great, Friday, 31 August 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
you are talking. about music. you havent. listened to. it is literally as simple as that. what the fuck attention do you think you're owed exactly?
― r|t|c, Friday, 31 August 2012 00:05 (eleven years ago) link
an explanation?
anyway i'm talking about monty luke, how about that?
― the late great, Friday, 31 August 2012 00:05 (eleven years ago) link
like i listened to the youtube you posted and it sounded more like orbitalife than bobby konders. so you owe me nothing but you're "music you haven't listened to" line is NOT as literally simple as that.
― the late great, Friday, 31 August 2012 00:06 (eleven years ago) link