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I agree totally, but until that happens MoMuS has to be made available. Transitions can't be forced.

okay so they can obv, but it's bad practice.

i have a feeling more than five people are gonna buy an iphone.

why should apple support everything under the sun just on principle?

Apple is known for forcing transitions successfully: first Mac had no arrow keys so ppl would use a mouse, iMac created the USB market by having no floppy drive and virtually no other ports etc etc. Even when it supports old tech, it makes it a bit clunky so ppl will try to get off it asap (Classic, Rosetta)

Yeah transitions are routinely forced in this business. Microsoft, for example, forced everybody to buy anti-virus and anti-spyware in addition to the applications they wanted to use.

s1ocki: MMS is a bog standard phone feature. It's not like leaving electric windows off a car.

stet: I realise it works for Apple, but it's still going to piss off a hell of a lot of people. And in this case the hardware exists! If it didn't have a camera and colour screen there'd be a case for omitting it.

i really dont think this is going to piss off a hell of a lot of people

I don't see it pissing off many people when they can do what they ultimately want to do in better ways. Sure it'll might piss off die-hard MMS fans, but I'm not convinced there's that many of them.

i think there's one right here ;)

Outside the US loads of people use MMS. I rarely use it (four times a year, maybe) but I do receive a few and I'd like to be able to read them.

that's a totally diff thing. I suppose it should be able to read MMS's, but o2 in the uk just sends you a link to a webpage where you can see the pic, so I still don't miss it.

ya if you just get sent a link you can just copy and paste it to the browser!

also to clarify, lack of pic messaging is not a deal-breaker for me. It would be nice, but ultimately the iphone does about 600 things this rubbish Nokia doesn't do.

xp but you can't copy and paste amirite

HTTP is the future dogg

sms app autolinkifies

Yes, all this is pretty moot if the provider doesn't require you to type in a code in addition to clicking a link. Perhaps non-O2 networks in the UK will deliberately start requiring a code to piss off iPhone users.

Two operators in Australia have already confirmed availability and at least one other is expected to make an announcement, so there's every chance the UK will do the same. Competition = yay. I think the US is fucked though.

IIRC O2 have a similar exclusive deal to the AT&T one. Apple have only gone for no exclusivity where it is prevented by law or they couldn't strike such a deal by other means.

Ahhhhhhhhh.

Eeeeeeeenteresting.

No one knows how long the exclusivity deals last for, though, do they? The US is a bit more fucked, because you only have two GSM networks and the other one (T-Mobile) still has v.patchy coverage.

Oookay, this is a dumbass question, but does one have to pay extra for GPS? I mean, do you pay connectivity charges (or whatever you call it) or is it for free (once it's installed)? Would be handy for me cause I'm the dumbest person when it comes to orientation. This is someone who manages to get lost in her own neighbourhood. :-(

I stopped using MMS cause I'm too lazy to clean up my pictures. My phone is chockful of pixors and I can't add any new ones.

GPS is free. The mapping data can sometimes cost but is included free with the iPhone.

*drool* I'm the flakiest person when it comes to phones: I go back on forth on subscriptions and prepaid cards. Maybe time to switch back to a PLAN and an IPHONE. Weee.

GPS is free.

Thank you, US military satellites.

http://www.wireless.att.com:80/cell-phone-service/transfer-your-number/

ok why am i ineligible

If I change my zipcode to my former zipcode (that corresponds with my area code) it says I am eligible.

Are the 3G phones actually out yet, or was just this an announcement that they will be soon?

July

No guarantee of keeping your number? In 2008? What the DEUCE?!??

yea i know, wtf - :(

I kind of want to ask my parents to pay my cell bill so i can change service

The company I work for made that possible in Aus. In fact it's a legal requirement that all providers allow customers to retain mobile numbers without any conditions, and has been for nearly 15 years. Should be like this everywhere.

http://www.tuaw.com/2008/06/14/korg-nanoseries-music-controllers/#comments

I saw those too czn :D

guys, is it only worth getting the 16GB iphone if you plan to load up with music or is something else going to take up space? the apps cant grab too much HD can they?

pics?

i'm probly gonna go 16 just cuz i never regret getting more space and i always am putting new stuff on my ipod, hd, etc.

those korg controllers are cool, but I'm waiting for the US release of the DS-10 virtual analog synth for the Nintendo DS.

I've seen some apps that want 6gb+ of space on iPhone (think maps)

holy crap

I've seen some apps that want 6gb+ of space on iPhone (think maps)

-- stet, Monday, June 16, 2008 6:54 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

what??????????

uh

No one knows how long the exclusivity deals last for, though, do they? The US is a bit more fucked, because you only have two GSM networks and the other one (T-Mobile) still has v.patchy coverage.

-- Alba, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 08:25 (5 days ago) Link

Yeah, except for the areas where AT&T has patchy coverage and no 3g and t-mobile has much better service

any update on when that korg ds synth is released dan? the videos on youtube make it look amazing...

the DS has no regions and AFAICT the DS-10 interface is all in english anyway? you can import it for $50 or so right now

I'm just going off of google shopping tho, could be wrong

where do you find info on the service plan for the iphone?

att.com?

not really. none of the "data plans" list the iphone as a compatible phone. they have an iphone FAQ page that is very unhelpful ... it says things like "your iphone will be in as little as 15 minutes from when you buy your plan!" but no info on how much the different plans cost or which ones are eligible w/ the iphone.

from memory i think the cheapest one was $60?