Rolling Psych/Drone/Freak Thread 2012

there's some corsano vids on the ecstatic peace site, they're coming from the young cricketer end of things which is great by me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_bNsmvCSaU

really thought i wld dig orcutt & there were a few initial things that caught my ear but the more i've listened to the more limited it sounds. i wish i cld just write it off but there is still an overall neatness to the phrasing, his technique is obv pleasingly & he has v appealing moments but i am mostly bored by the one-note sleepy-drunk lofi sloppyness of it.

Yeah, Corsano covers a lot of terrain successfully, that clip is great. Orcutt is definitely playing from a limited palette, and I can only take it in smallish doses (that 20 minute clip above seems about right as far as what I could get through live, depending on him mixing it up a bit), I can get being bored by it. I don't get sleepy-drunk (or lo-fi actually) from it at all though. He seems heavily invested in it, and attacks the guitar with a lot of gusto. Not necessarily vituosic (a la much of Corsano's stuff) but certainly accomplished. I get what you are saying though, would certainly come across that way if you aren't feeling it.

Any opinions on the White Manna album to be had here?

moreover

Can someone tell me more about the essential Sylvester/Silvester Anfang (II)? I bought the new one on a whim and now almost immediately i want more.

― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Sunday, July 1, 2012 9:15 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark

i did find this, and it is highly recommended by me if you like a driving kind of dark rockabilly vibe with your clangy psychedelic guitar noises
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui3x2VRG92c

re: orcutt
mb stronger rhythm wld give him more space to move around in. as it is he falls into these phrases, speeding up v fast then slowing down, it's like he's staggering, swaying, he totally sounds like a blind-drunk virtuoso - esp mumbling to himself - v immediate but not v mindful. also the first record at least, is mad lofi.

Yeah, that record is lo-fi, I guess I just don't associate that term with folks doing solo guitar improvisations (not that it matters, lo fidelity is lo fidelity). Don't really wanna parse his playing too much, as I have never heard him talk about it or anything. Seems like he is doing what he wants, which is mindful to me, but sure, he falls into phrases and lurches around then pauses. Just seems intentionally limited, not like he is lacking stronger rhythm phrasing etc. But, 5 more records of that kinda thing may not really pan out, I can see that. Really that "Star Spangled Banner" above shows a pretty good combo of his signature style with some adherence to midnfulness (to me at least). Good direction for him.

La Lechera, that Sylvester Anfang II song is cool, would have sounded great at a barbecue yesterday. Good music to melt in the heat to. Don't know anything about them, but may have to investigate. Thanks.

he played a couple weeks back with a drummer at a warehouse show i was at, however, it being a warehouse show, it started about 2 hours later than advertised, and i had to work the next day, so i left before he played. but based on this discussion, i wish i had stayed, so i could report on how that worked out vis a vis his style.

Apparently SAII have two albums out this year? The one I bought is much much slower/hynotic in its grooviness, recommended if you like your raga with an element of space noise.

Sylvester Anfang II are definitely someone I want to check out. Emil.y was raving about them on another thread the other day...

Yes, they are emil.y approved, I know that to be true!

is the new ty segall psych/freak or was that the white fence vibe

how's the new blooz contrrol

I'm hoping the new Blues Control is better than the samples I've heard. Too much cheesy keyboard way out front.

not all the tracks have that but it's the most prominent change in their sound

it'll prolly bug quite a few ppl but I get the impression they're fairly cool with that

hmmm... I didn't care for the promo track at all and I'm a pretty big fan. bummer.

i thought the laraaji thing was tight

:(

Hey who wants to do a quick blues Control s/d or rundown itt? I want to get into them and I think I'm gonna try Puff but I don't quite know what to expect. Any recommendations?

new Alexander Tucker, Third Mouth, on Thrill Jockey, blowing me away right now. Keep flipping it over and over. Fourth listen today. Gamechanger, methinks!

need to check that guy out, where to start? into the new luke younger / helm thing, good for creeping yourself out at 2am

oh i love him!

dorwytch is really good and there's lots of his stuff on spotify
esp recommended if you like wyatty singing

old fog is good too

creepy and enjoyable listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOv74VaFReI

White Manna album is excellent, kinda reminds me the Original Sins or someone

Crackle Box, start with the new one, but all of his albums are excellent. This new one has some heavy Depeche Mode vibes...in a good way. Really, really great album.

thought of this thread http://www.facebook.com/notes/bill-orcutt/chris-corsano-bill-orcutt-east-coast-us-tour-dates/397182903664099

Wasn't sure whether to drop this in the rolling noise thread or this one, but this thread seems to get more traffic. You can find the discography of blackened noise/drone horrors Locrian for "pay what you want" download at bandcamp now: http://locrian.bandcamp.com/album/the-crystal-world

Hey who wants to do a quick blues Control s/d or rundown itt? I want to get into them and I think I'm gonna try Puff but I don't quite know what to expect. Any recommendations?

^^ 'puff' it's amazing - prob my favourite and definitely a good starting point. then you might go for 'local flavor' and from then on dig deeper with the self-titled and 'a full tank', maybe. the split with heavy winged is also good, iirc. collaboration with laraaji from last year was algo interesting, even if it veers a little bit closer to the new-agey vibes of the latter.

btw, any one heard 'valley tangents'?

Rather.

http://www.allmusic.com/album/valley-tangents-mw0002364694

Thanks! :D

saw the dreebs the other night, they're like 10 shimmering seconds of an SY noise break on loop. wasn't sure whether they should go here or rolling punk or rolling noise. the records and youtubes don't do justice to their live show which is a soakbath of ecstatic sound. their videos are kind of lol williamsburg, but if you get a chance to see 'em live you should.

new Alexander Tucker, Third Mouth, on Thrill Jockey, blowing me away right now. Keep flipping it over and over. Fourth listen today. Gamechanger, methinks!

Nice! There hasn't been a lot of fanfare for such a good album, or at least I haven't noticed any until this thread.

i love it! i listened to it most recently as i was driving through an extremely lush green rural area and it was heavenly.

yeah it's gorgeous

just ordered the new sylvester anfang. which one of theirs is meant to be the err... groovier one?

you mean of the most recent releases? which one did you get?
are there song titles or jam 1, jam 2, etc?

i have the former, WANT the latter!

this one http://www.discogs.com/Sylvester-Anfang-II-Perzische-Tapijten/master/424839

that's the one i got. it's great -- very groovy, but slow groovy

you a london person? they're playing oto with helm next week

nope, chicago :(

i got imported anfang

Just listened to Etherik by Sylvester Anfang and am psyched enough to want all his albums.

Dunno if this is quite the right place for the following enticing Forced Exposure update, but seems close enough:
OREN AMBARCHI: Sagittarian Domain CD (EMEGO 144CD) : OUT 08/28/2012 "For anyone who still associates Oren Ambarchi exclusively with the clipped, bass-heavy tones of solo electric guitar works such as Suspension (TO 033.18CD), this rhythmically churning one-man-band monster of an album-length piece might seem to come out of nowhere. However, listeners who have followed the breadth of his work for the last few years (solo and in projects with collaborators from Jim O'Rourke to Stephen O'Malley and Keith Rowe to Keiji Haino) will have noted how Ambarchi has allowed increasingly clear traces of his enthusiasms as a music listener (for classic rock, minimal techno and '70s fusion, among other areas) to surface in his performances and recordings, all the time filtering them through his signature long-form structures and psychoacoustic sonics. Recorded in a single inspired studio session, Sagittarian Domain displaces Ambarchi's trademark guitar sound from the center of the mix, its presence felt only as an occasional ghostly, reverberated shimmer. Endlessly pulsating guitar and bass lines sit alongside electronic percussion and thundering motorik drumming (familiar from his work with Keiji Haino) at the core of the piece, locking into a voodoo groove, like Faust covering a '70s cop show theme. The work is founded on hypnotic almost-repetition, the accents of the drum hits and interlocking bass and guitar lines shifting almost imperceptibly back and forwards over the beat as they undergo gradual transformations of timbre. Cut-up and phase-shifted strings enter around the half-way mark like an abstracted memory of the Eastern-tinged fusion of the Mahavishnu Orchestra's classic Visions of the Emerald Beyond, before returning for an extended, stark yet affecting come-down coda, equal parts Gavin Bryars and Purple Rain. While Sagittarian Domain contains traces of a diversity of influences, it mines all of them to uncover something that is clearly an extension of Ambarchi's own investigations up to this point, exhibiting the same care for micro-detail and surrender to the physicality of sound that are present in all of his work, extending them in new ways to repetition, pulse and rhythm." --Francis Plagne; Vinyl cut by Rashad Becker at Dubplates & Mastering, Berlin, June 2012.
http://www.orenambarchi.com/

Samples sound pretty cool, though the drum sound is shitty.

Whoa, that's very exciting.

This might be a good release show w guests at least. More on Northern Spy site:

This September 2012 New York City band Zs celebrates 10 years of being a band with the release of SCORE - The complete sextet works from 2002-2007. Zs has been described with a dizzying array of musical vocabularies, and has performed alongside an equally dizzying complement of colleagues and collaborators ranging from Throbbing Gristle's Genesis P. Orridge, to Roscoe Mitchell, to Christian Wolf, not to mention hundreds of comrades from the Brooklyn DIY scene, that has been home to Zs' myriad incarnations and musical and artistic tangents. Belonging nowhere and everywhere, Zs has absorbed the editorial space of Howard Stern and Alex Ross alike. In 10 years of activity, the band has changed in countless ways without ever changing a fierce commitment to inscrutable aesthetics and execution crafted to provoke reflection and challenge assumption in the consumption of music.

The 4 disc box-set hits stores on 9/11 and pulls together all of the out of print works from the band's first 5 years of existence along with a disc of never released material. There are over four and half hours of music represented, a 20-page booklet, and four CDs in printed sleeves, all housed in a beautiful 55pt box featuring original artwork by art/design team Fredericks & Mae.

To celebrate a hugely productive decade, the band is celebrating, surrounded by band members old and new, with an epic Ten-Year Anniversary & Box Set Record Release Show Wednesday August 29th at 285 Kent in Brooklyn NY. Featured will be Diamond Terrifier (featuring Sam Hillmer of Zs), Hubble (featuring former Zs member Ben Greenberg), Extra Life (featuring former Zs member Charlie Looker), Wet Ink Ensemble (featuring former Zs members Alex Mincek & Ian Antonio)and the Mick Barr + Marc Edwards Duo.

To further the ever evolving nature of the group, Zs will debut new material and a new line-up at the 8/29 show. Guitarist/composer Patrick Higgins (Bachanalia, ex-Animal) and drummer Greg Fox (Guardian Alien, ex-Liturgy) have joined founding member Sam Hillmer to launch Zs into their second decade. They’ve been rehearsing in secret for months and this show is not to be missed.

hey this friday at my store. come hang out with me.

Jason Lescalleet/Greg Kelley Duo + Matt Krefting

Friday, August 17 at 8:00 PM

Location: John Doe, Jr. Used Books and Records
269 Main St., Greenfield MA

What's their music like?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n738jbTd78

no where else to put it, but i just have to say that i am on a heavy heavy Richard Skelton kick, and could really listen to this music forever.

Just got the Cosmic Dead s/t cd and have been wondering if the track Black Rabbit on there has anything to do with the Skullflower track of the same title from IIIrd GAtekeeper. I think it sounds like a similar riff but Cosmic Dead's treatment is pretty different taking it on a trip for 18 minutes whereas Skullflower seem to be playing for maximum weight over 4+ minutes.

Thanks for reminding me that it is time to pull out IIIrd Gatekeeper!